Nevadefeated

I didnt say those guys werent good fighters, But none of them were considered the best when Pacquiao fought them. This is my problem with Pacquiao and what his fans (Pactards) say about Floyd. They say Floyd doesnt fight the best, He picks his fights and Manny fights the best. This is false, Mayweather has fought and beaten 5 official champions in 5 different divisions. He has fought and beat the best, Wheras Pacquiao has ducked the best and cherry picked people coming off losses. Sometimes even at catchweights for vacant belts. Mayweather never fought for vacant belts, He always moved up and beat the best. Pacquiao has done the exact opposite of this. Just a few examples... He fought Morales after Morales was dominated by Zahir Raheem. Why didnt he fight Raheem? Morales was clearly finished! He fought Cotto after he was brutalised by Margarito, Why didnt he fight Mosley who was considered the best after destroying Margarito? The answer is in my sig, Roach claimed Mosley was "Too good of a fighter" He's now fighting Margarito who is coming off the huge KO loss to Mosley, As if that isnt bad enough he's fighting him for a vacant belt at a catchweight. Mayweather never pulls bullshit like this, As I have already explained. He just moves up and beats the best. Margarito is NOT considered the best by any boxing fans....Hell, NOBODY cares about him anymore. But since he is promoted by Top Rank and will fight for peanuts..... When has Mayweather blatantly ducked fighters like that? Never. The only fighter who Mayweather fought who was coming off a loss was Zab Judah. People were saying "Fight Baldomir" and then he won every round against Baldomir to make the point. Floyd HAS beaten the best, Pacquiao has not. Thank you! The media has really blinded the masses with hate that most could'nt even see their hands in front of their face

Everyone was calling out Floyd for his return fight for the payday, Nobody except for Oscar dictates terms to Money May. Do you think he would have come up to Welterweight for any other opponent? All I was pointing out to you is the fact that it was JMM that challenged Mayweather everything esle you mention does'nt even matter.Truth is greater than a lie period.

No, it was Floyd that chose JMM and like Oscar did to Manny, he made him come up 2 weight divisions or the fight was off. Thats not true about Floyd vs JMM. Heres two different articles"In order to chase Manny Pacquiao for a third match, Marquez decided to move up into higher weight divisions. After his impressive lightweight run, he expressed that he wanted to fight Mayweather. Floyd accepted JMM’s challenge and came off a 21-month retirement that was announced before the Pacquiao vs Hatton bout (watch the Pacquiao vs Hatton Street Fighter video)."After knocking out Juan Diaz in the ninth round last night, world lightweight champion Juan Manuel Marquez decided to take a shot at current pound-for-pound ruler Manny Pacquiao by calling out Floyd Mayweather Jr., the semi-retired pound-for-pound king of old." Look it up.

Julio Cesar Chavez vs Pernell Whitaker for the Welterweight title at 145 ODLH vs BHOP for middleweight title at 158 Also I don't recall why was JMM considered a challenger, was this for a belt I don't remember. No it was'nt for a belt. JMM was considered the challenger in the sense that he challenged Floyd to a welterweight fight.

Floyd also made at 135 lbs fighter move up 2 weight divisions to WW and didn't even have the decency to make the agreed upon weight. Pac had every right to ask for that penalty. The challenger suppose to move up and that's what Marquez did. Floyd did'nt make him move up. I never in my life heard of a P4P best fighter in the world challenge the champ to a fight but say you to big can you fight me at a catch weight until Manny came along.

Lol at Guerrero letting a used car salesman lay hands on him.

What's even funnier is Floyd staying silent now, when he was doing the same kind of thing before. Perhaps translated from Ghetto-ese. :boxing: You sound like a woman that's never satisfied. When Floyd trash talk his opponents to promote the fight you say he talk too much I wish he shut up, when he's on vacation not thinking about boxing you say he 's to silent. Make up your mind you can't have it your way.

Problem is, your pretty boy ain't saying yay or nay. You just owned yourself. Can you say random blood test? All Pac has to agree to is random drug testing.

People are ****ting on a future hall of famer ( Marquez) in favour of someone who has accomplished one meaningful win in 43 professional fights. I'm not exactly surprised but I'd be lying if I said it didn't disgust me. Good post! You kept it 100.

The governing bodies has no morality left in them, so when Pac says he wants to fight at 150 with a belt on the line, these governing bodies would give it to him in a silver platter. Fighting for a belt at a catchweight once was enough. Twice is blasphemy. It's clear as day and night, team Pac wants to have that 154 title belt but is not willing to honor the division limit. Asking for a catchweight again makes it clear that team Pac is not asking for a fair fight. Poor Margo, he has no say at all.. So if the governing bodies has no morality left in them for allowing a title at a catch weight that's requested by Pac, would'nt that mean that Pacquiao has no morality left in him? Yes.

Look, this is the way it works little man. When your great, people want you on their level, it makes them feel uncomfortable someone is better than them. Its called a weak ego. No matter who you put in front of him Floyd will win and detractors will find a way to discredit him. Floyd knocks Pac out and Pac is too small. Dude called out Mosley for years, knocks Margarito out who was the MOST FEARED. Floyd makes Shane look like Chucky Cheese and now he's too old. But wasn't too old when he was putting the MOST FEARED into a shallow grave. Floyd knocks Pac out, too small---Floyd is ducking Williams or Pavlik. He'll always be ducking someone in the eyes of the weak. JUDGE THE SKILLS NOT THE ATTITUDE. Very well spoken.

:haha:gayfeather is not #1 nor #2 ....not even the 10th best welter at the tme. Let's see him fight Devon alexander if h ever dares to fight " somebody" for once. Got $10000 on Alexander any time. nitramzaid@hotmail.com 3 :haha:

U see the pattern???....DIMWIT!!! Then tell us why the MASTER of AVOIDANCE, continues to PUNK OUT??? Whatever lil boy. To a hater and someone with no substance as youself it will always be that he's punking out. Mosley ran up on Floyd during the post Marquez fight interview and all you heard was how Floyd is scared, look he's stuttering he's punking out 8 months later he destroys the boogie man but nevertheless according to the same haters the boogie man was old. If I was in Mayweather shoes I would leave the sport altogether because it's sickening how the media and certain types of fans trash Mayweather for shutting out the # 2 and three #3 p4p fighters while the so call #1 gets praised for fighting contenders coming off of losses. In my oppinion haters,pactards whatever you want to call yourself are mental cases. At least add some substance to your post that will make me think. Oh and why did the true MASTER of AVOIDANCE Pacquiao punk out on random drug testing? Don't bother answering it I'll just tell you why. He's doping and don't want to be exposed. Why don't you critisize Pac for that, uhh JB? Why do Pac want to know when he will be tested, uuh JB? December he was afraid of needle, it weakens him but all of a sudden Pac over come his fear (lies) and expect the thinkers to believe him. Not so fast, so why would you expect Floyd to accept an old offer that Pac punked out on and went to fight a scrub while in the meanwhile he moved foward and fought the more dangerous fighter Mosley the true WW champ that accepted along with Floyd random blood and urine test uhh JB...Dont give me a shallow post or you will be labeled MASTER OF ADVOIDANCE got me.

Blood test, urine test, sperm test, fecal test - it doesn't matter. None of that matters until Floyd takes that pacifier out of his mouth. Yep, you might as well admit he's doping.You said it in so many words, i hope that the rest of Pac fans who are in denial would come around like you. Only a dope feind refuse a drug test you get that.

**** thats disgusting is that floyd admits that he is fighting at his "walk around weight" and can and has been fighting bigger guys... Well he's really saying "I'm not really into CHALLENGING myself"! To me, thats not greatness, thats not a true heart of a champion! If Floyd is disgusting for fighting guys at his normal weight what would you call fighters like Canelo who walks around above 172 lbs fighting at 154?

That's true. It's better Pac fight the guy who got his ass kicked from pillar to post by Shane. Makes more sense. Hahahaha nice response even though I think it flew right over his head.

You sound like you're riding Floyd's dick. Have it your way. Why do everything have to be dick this, gay that when dealing with you Pac fans. Dang bring back the days of yay and nay.

Sorry, but that win was more than a year ago. Shane has not fought anybody after Margarito. I am not disrespecting Floyd as a Boxer, he has Mad Skills I'll give him that. It's his persona that he's trying show people that pisses me off. Why do you think I wanted to see him fight Pacquiao? 'coz it will be one hell of a Fight. Good Defense VS Good Offense, Top of thier Prime!!! It has not happened in Years!!! Both can claim they are the #1 P4P, but until that happens, it will not be resolved!!! What did I tell about trying to spin it. Don't let hate keep you blind man it's not that serious, those guys don't think about us. All we can do is state the facts that we see truthfully and that is Floyd fights winners while Manny fights losers. I know the truth can be painful at first but let me say this accepting lies will be your ruin in the end and this what counts the end results. Don't worry I once believed in Manny until I seen the pattern. It is what it is and I make no appologies.

I think Floyd is really pissed at Manny for the reason that he will not agree to the random blood test that both of them would be taking so he can put a spanking on Manny. The media is making it worst by taking the side of the one who refuse to show that he's clean. You never hear the media blasting Pac for not agreeing to random with no cut off and this must be pissing Mayweather off. A guy who represented the USA in the Olympics only to have his countrymen commit treason against him for a foriegn fighter that refuses random drug testing. The last time I seen Mayweather this pissed was against Gotti and you witnessed the assault that took place.

Nevadefeated, Your posting makes no sense at all. Floyd is the one ducking Manny don't twist the facts moron. When did Floyd refuse random testing? Manny refused random testing and fought a lesser opponent did he or did he not? I thought so.

Now STUPIDO, all U have to do, is get The MASTER Of AVOIDANCE, to stop PUNKING OUT!!! Really your counselor should have never taught you how to use a computer. How about going back to your room and strapping yourself back up to your bed, but not before you take your 20 pills.

So He fought Mosley after how many years? Is that what he's planning to do with Pacquiao too? So That's your Idea of a Warrior? If you have a direct line to Floyd, why don't you call him up and tell him to fight. Vacation's over. Oh, By the way Pac may be fighting Margacheato in Mexico, his home turf, is Floyd willing to fight anywhere else? Some Warrior with a lot of Guts. At least he fought Mosley at his best when he was coming off an impressive knockout win over Margarito. I've tried but I just cant say the same for Pacquiao and any person with an ounce of honesty will agree plus pacs next fight with this cheater Marg bears witness to this testimony so dont deny it. ps if you are going to deny this fact or try to spin it please don't reply back I only post for the the true fans of the sweet science and thinkers. Thank You in advance.

Wheather or not U LIED or Not, Dosen't change the FACT, U an IDIOT!!! Boy u already Punked Out on one my post so why are you here.

Yep at lease Pac is fighting, what about Floyd? Nobody seems to be calling him out except Manny. 'coz we all know why, They all know It's a waste of time, he wont even look at any fight let alone negotiate with anybody. Sad, really Sad. How is it sad that Floyd is on vacation? In reality that's the sign of a true king one that can take two years off come back and conquer the #2 p4p fighter via shutout then 8 months later destroy the #3 p4p and made more money than that slave Pacquiao who's fighting contenders. Mr.Arum is treating pacman like a whore, all those battles that pac been in Bob want even allow the man to take a break. His mom is even begging for him to retire but he cant because he's Bob property. You no what they say about a whore is that they don't make money at home that's why he keep fighting and possibly is a reason for the ped's ,need extra energy. Here's and example of how Bob Arum fit the description of a pimp: if a pimp find out that one of his whores wants to leave him what he does is get another whore in his stable to beat them until they're bloody usually with mutiple clothe hangers tied together while the pimp watch. Reason for this is to humiliate the whore to stamp upon there mind that no one wants you looking like that.Now look at Bob when Cotto wanted to leave he brought in his whore Margarito with loaded gloves and humiliated his stable mate, he lost a lot of star power for being a quitter.After that Bob used him by fighting his other stable whore Pacman at a catch weight to give him more star power. Do you see the pattern,God forbid that Pacquiao make a move to leave or take a break. Now what were you saying? Something about Mayweather being on vacation, ok then.

I hate when Floyd plays the victim. What does he mean "they'd come up with another opponent", "they're going to keep making opponents"? Who's "they"? GBP is the one whose putting their fighters in great positions and then hyping them up as the one to fight/beat Floyd. Sure he's not talking about the fans cuz they continue to purchase tickets/PPVs regardless of who he fights. It's not like Floyd can fight himself, can he? What Floyd is saying is that every world champion he have faced that y'all said will give him his first loss, he has dominated and made to look like c-class fighters. Instead of giving him his props y'all downplay his victory calling him a cherry picker, and calling out other fighter names when he just dominated the boogie monster, at least let his win set in before calling out other names. It's a funny thing how Robert Guerrero, who hadn't loss in eight years winning multiple championships along the way by some of y'all standard wasn't a worthy opponent for Mayweather but y'all here trying to convince the public that Floyd would get credit for fighting Canelo who hasn't done much in his own division, it doesn't add up. So the conclusion is that y'all possess hatred in your heart toward Floyd and want him to lose against a guy that doesn't have the skills to beat him but rather have a huge size advantage, Canelo should be at super middle weight that's why he gasses so early, he's the real fraud. Why not ask him to challenge himself by fighting in his correct weight class, what's the boogie man scared of, his own shadow.

you guys obviously don't know shit about boxing. 154 is the LIMIT. You don't have to be exactly 154 lbs you dumb asses. 150 lbs means it's still technically in the weight class because it's above the weight limit of the next closest class of 147 lbs. No sir you obviously don't know boxing. What a catch-weight does is keep you from rehydrating to your full weight potential come fight night. As long as you make the 154lbs wieght limit at weigh-in you are allowed to rehydrate above that limit. 150lb catch weight for the WBC title is an insult to those JMW fighters that work hard in the sport only to have two clowns who fight a class below get first shot. Not to mention one does not have a license to fight the other refuse random drug testing. Boxing boxing boxing shame on you.:nonono:

Nevadeafeated, You're a liar another typical Floyd zombie. Show me in my post where I lied,if you can't then that makes you the zombie, see how easy that is.

GBP is too soft to negotiate with someone like Arum. They can't even get there stories straight. Don King have that swag about him thats entertaining, so you can imagine what promotion would be like if DK and FMM hook up. Plus King and Arum came up in the game together and despite popular beliefs these two promoters has respect for one another. Thus making the Mayweather vs Pacquiao fight even bigger than its already perceived to be.

really, 14 days will give manny benefits using A_SIDE METH hahaha get fukking real. Hahaha you get real. They been sending man in space for the last 50 years so whats make you think Manny can't benefit from his dope in 14 days. You know him and Ariza paying top dollars while uncle Bob help to keep the lid on.

Marquez probably want fight again as long as he's signed with top rank. I believe Arum expected Marquez to pull a Clottey, that's the only reason he got the fight, instead Marquez crossed him out by embarrassing Pac. Nothing beats the double cross but the triple cross.