I feel like yall I just wanna see de la hoya fight somebody real. but whoever wins the sweepstakes get a career facelift. and a big win puts the pressure on old pretty boy.
I feel pw and marg are tied for first right now like 1a and 1b. but the only reason is because marg beat the number 1 cotto. pw has a win hanging over margaritos head. but if he faught williams and beat him and hadn't faught cotto yet cotto would be 1
to be fare its a lot harder for a person to win 5 division titles if you start at supermiddlewieght. how many title defenses has mayweather had over his career and all the real champions he's faced his career is definatley superior in shorter time.
Calzaghe may be 45-0 but 35 of those wins were bums. Now calzaghe is looking to enhance is record with big pay days against old fighters with big names.
true maywheather has faught far fewer bums
RJJ started at jr. mw and went all the way to HW.
roy jones is a beast its definatley harder to make those moves in the higher divisions.
I guess none of the calzaghe fans wanted to come out and rep there boy.
they'd rather thinks he's a legend and then try to compare his career to people who haven't been around long enough to establish a legacy. like pavlik taylor ect.
im glad everybody respects what maywheathers done. it might be a while before we get another mayweather. it just sucks that it seems he has more to offer us as fans.
calzaghe has a long way to go before he can be mentioned as a top 50 all time fighter. it sucks if its really frenk warrens fault for not exposing him to any real challenges
i feel maywheather leaves more opportunity and ability behind. he was probably ducking more people but even with all that he still achieved way more in a shorter career than calzaghe. calzaghe didn't fight a lot of top level opponents until recently. but if he beat jones and pavlik convincingly and then beat hopkins convincingly in a rematch it would be real hard for me to say whose career was better but I would have to feel calzaghe finished way stronger and left no stone unturned but that probably won't happen
he got the hearts of americans when he was in the olympics. and he was market like this perfect golden child. he was able to cross over and evrybody knows who he is like over here everybody knows tyson holyfield and de la hoya. not that many people really like him though. he's kinda arrogant in a feminine way.
big money. big event. it will be like maywheather hatton only bigger. cause I think calzaghes more liked in england and pavlik might not be more popular but I think he's more liked and both wins would really push it into the mainstream more then anyother fight lately. probably competing with pbf and dlh!
I say the mayweather fight was worse cause it was ?so big and they was both in so many magazines and evrybody was asking was it the fight to save boxing all the casual fans that tuned saw a real borin fight. I liked it and I was glad mayweather won though!
on some real shit I aint a calzaghe fan but the manfredo fight sticks out even though yall joke about it. it was crazy to see a fight stop like that. all that work rate making a so called world class fighter go into a shell and force the ref to call th fight without him getting damaged.
I liked roy jones and james toney how he out classed such a great fighter in toney. just kept nailing him with that hook on the way in and toneys a real slick boxer.
I loved pavlik getting off the floor and ending the taylor fight in such spectacular fashion.
I loved that brillience of mayweather vs gatti.
holyfield vs tyson in the first fight.
cotto vs judah with all that blood.
theres so many good ones its hard to say one is better than others.
if your a margarito fan who do you want him to fight. if I was one I would want him to fight paul williams. I would want my guy to be the top guy for real no question. it there somebody badder I want to know if my guy is really candy I want to know. I don't want to get disappointed watching glenn johnson knock my boy out like he aint shit and I was a huge fan but he didn't really fight anybody and it was all smoke and mirrors.
Do you want to see Williams to get sucked into the Tijuana Tornado? Marg was a tropical storm in the first fight and now he has the hunger from beating Cotto into the fetal position and will crush Paul in the rematch.
to be honest yes. I feel like the ways he starting fast now the rematch would probably go his way. but I want to see it. just acknowledge pw though say you'll fight him next. don't do the same pussy shit mayweather did everytime there was a threat and act like he don't exist.
exactly aint no other big fight for him. talking about he needs a pay day that shit with clotteys on showtime pay per view that aint no payday. p williams is the best fight available to him and margaritos trash for not taking. I aint saying he's scared but why else aint this fight happening. you sound like a *** being scared for your guy to lose do you make excuses why he should fight someone else when that's the fight real fans want. but tonys cock down and open your eyes to reality your just imagining that's his dick your mouth. he don't even know you! yall crazy!
you're whole post means crap seeing how Williams and Goosen declined a rematch after the fight.
I feel you if that's true but after reading the new article all we can conclude is that's all he say she say.
all im saying is being the boxing fan that I am me and my boys is sitting back watching cotto leavin the ring with his first L and were already talking about the rematch with p dub. if you was a boxing fan you would want to see it. that's why all the bs is irritating to an icon like such as myself. I wanna let yall know your boy is losing cred so I post the thread. I go eat me some high fiber cereal and then I come back and I got like three different ideas so being the icon I am I triple post oh well. yall crazy!
I do ! Will be a much bigger fight with titles on the line
Will be a war !
I want to see that fight the most but more than likely it will be margarito williams 2 and clottey cotto in msg. woudn?t count on berto fighting anybody anytime soon. wouldn't be mad about this though.
you could tell he was just pretending not to see. he loves a way to escape fights that aren't going his way. on another not vegas needs replay. if they did that would have been a tko for clottey and would have opened more eyes then a close decision. plus I think clottey was gonna knock judah out anyways.
More assumptions. I'd love it for Pavlik to KO Hopkins. The Yanks will be all hysterical again like with Lacy.
Its a long way down from Hypeville
it is a long way down. back when lacy had hype we weren't over here talking about can he beat calzaghe we was talking about can he beat jermaine and it was real split most of us knew lacy was a bum and actually thought and hoped he would get exposed. cause I was tired of hearing about him. I know a lot of people who were.
I know pavlik and he aint no jeff lacy!
I am a fan of both pavlic and Calzaghe but i do prefer to watch Pavlic because of his power,but i don't think that Pavlic could Beat Calzaghe,i think Calzaghe would work out Pavlic,Pavlic has huge power but his style is very limited to coming forward in straight lines !
I feel Joe Calzaghe would work him out in a heart beat,a bit like he did Kessler !
But you gotta respect pavlics power and give him a punchers chance IMO!
im glad your a pavlic fan but our pavliks name is spelled with a k. not that familiar with yours but you say he's a bit like kessler sounds like a beast. calzaghe will probably duck him just like our pavlik
Whats funny is you making an assumption to try to get one over on me.
Failing miserably all the while.
At least Jermain got a UD? Is that supposed to mean something? Its like saying at least Holyfield got a Draw against Lewis.:bottle:
so calzaghes win wasn't convincing to you. you were feeling b-hop. koo
Yes. I hope Pavlik KOs Hopkins in 1 and his hype train goes into overdrive. There is no way Pavlik can beat Calzaghe, Pavlik's style is perfect for Joe, and Joe is several classes better than him.
see that's where you're wrong calzaghe style is perfect for pavlik. he has nothing to worry about while he drops bombs. its not like calzaghes a maywheather where he thrives on backing up and fighting aggressive fighters. the both come forward but pavliks stronger so calzaghe will go back and eventually down.
I dunno whats funnier about this post.
The fact you think Taylor is more skilled than Calzaghe when he was out-jabbed and outboxed by a simple fighter like Pavlik in two fights.:lol1:
The fact that you think Cory Spinks is a good win.:lol1:
Or the fact you think he was convincing against Spinks and Hopkins.:rofl:
Funny as fuck.
what's funny is you probably think calzaghe was convincing against hopkins. at least jemaine got a ud!
its not impossible that that limited fighter you speak of could beat or even knock out calzaghe.
another note... I read in an article explaining why calzaghe wasn't relevant when jones was campaiining at super middle weight that the belt calzaghe held for so long wasn't really thought of as a championship belt kinda like the ibo belt is now. so maybe those defense didn't mean as much as were lead to believe. kinda like someone defending a nabo belt forever
Rugby's not a collision sport. :rofl:
Funny as fuck.
no its not! you guys tackle each other but its not the same. nothing in sports is tougher on the body and ones will than running the ball 30 times in a game.
I've taken the time to watch live rugby games. you should watch what it looks like when a runninback hits the hole live and try to tell me its similar. or you should try it you wouldn't get any yards or try it more than 5 times.
its a different bread like salmon and sharks.
my reason for this thread was less about trying to make jermaine seem great but to show that with just a couple of wins a so called legend and a fighter most don't give a lot of respect to get real comparable. if jermaine fights till he's say 33 its quite possible that he could have better or even far better resume based on a name by name basis. to me joe has to fight more than just jones to say he's had a great career. to bad its so late in his career that he's finally deciding to fight big fights. I just don't understand people acting like calzaghe is the greatest fighter in this era. when asked to point out significant wins you get kessler, lacy, and hopkins. and im sure people are gonna talk about all his title defenses of what was basically a minor league belt. when did he finally unify his belt? cause I can recall that during hopkins run of defenses he sure had a lot of belts and a so called linear title.