beating ANOTHER washed up fighter,,,it continues to affect his legacy
well, looks like your ATG are mainly or all just mexicans so I'm assuming you dont like fighters outside that race....so obviously dont like pac especially all the beating he's been doing to the mexicans and again that he's gonna do to margo.
cant believe flomos still trying to find xcuses about how he straight up pussied out the fight. there's nothing to it. he's afriad to fight pac cuz he dont wanna get knocked for speaking foolish shit about pac being easy work n all. he knows pac wants to whoop his ass more than anyone ever and pac is whooping ass already without that hate in him. plus the defeat will bomb him so hard he probably will have a break down and get cracked out like the rest of the family and just retire after that. floyd has his whole career on the line wen it comes to fightin pac. his so called I'm the best cuz I havent lost "0" . with that gone too he aint got nothing else to say to back himself up about "I aint never lost or got knocked" etc...but he will get everything that nite handed to him. so best advice, he shouldnt fight pac. ya flomos should be happy he didnt either. A very good choice by him, but then again thats floyd for ya, ducking pussy move.
I myself dont like the fight much even being a fan of MP. But if only floyd were to man and fight than this wouldnt be happening. No one else in my mind that has a good name. Berto is okay but being that he's handle by the same folks as Floyd I dont think they would put him in with a fighter that would mess up his "record". Hopefully Berto doesnt take the same path as KFC.
Pac Tard Timeline
in 2009: "Mosley just knocked out the guy (Margarito) Mayweather has been ducking, now Mayweather will duck Mosley, he is afraid of Mosley"
in early 2010: "Mayweather will duck Mosley, he wont fight him", "He is only fighting Mosley because he is forced to fight him", "Mosley is stronger and faster than Mayweather, he will outbox him and knock out Fraud"
in 2010 right AFTER Mayweather-Mosley fight: "Mosley was an old man", "he overtrained", "Mosley is washed up", "Mosley got tired after 4 rounds because he had 2 training camps", "Mayweather waited till Mosley got old"
in 2010 AFTER the Mosley-Mora fight: "See Shane has already been washed up, he looked like a shot fighter", "Mosleys performance vs Mora proves he was SHOT when he fought Mayweather"
At the end of 2010 (now): "Pac vs Mosley is an exciting fight", "this is a great clash of styles", "The 38 year old mosley that PBF fought in 2010 will not be as good as the 40 year old Mosley that Pac fights in 2011", "Mosley is a slick boxer, and Pac will prove he can beat a slick black fighter"
I probably didnt make myself clear, but I was tryna say was that even as a mp fan I would hate to see him fight shane. I rather see pac against berto even if he wasnt a bigger draw and I wouldn't pay for pac vs shane but I would if pac was fighting berto or even jmm. I think arum got this all messed up. Its a bad business decision if he put pac up against shane.
Have you seen the factual documentary called "the curious case of benjamin button"..well for copyright reasons they had to change the title, it should have been "the curious case of Shane Mosley". The guy was born like 90 years old and is getting younger each year, it will be a prime Mosley when pac fights him.
LOL....good movie but I think Shane wouldnt fit it quite well as he getting older and slower. it should be called "The curious case of Bernard Hopkins" as this dude is really pushing time.
I like this post. It just proves floyds a ducker and he just ducked the one of the most threatening fighter to give him his first lost, KO, beating etc...
pac hurts or if not KD/KO's most of all his opponents. floyd wont be able to escape his punches and I just wanna see if floyd can take a good punch from power pac. Plus I dont see how some folks think this is going to be a boring fight. Pac is one of the most exciting fighters and it's a gurantee to be a good fight.
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Originally Posted by jai mari078
He doesnt want any part of pacquiao and he never did. This fight on his side was all an act that he never wanted to happen, thats why this whole circus started, they never intended on this fight seeing the ring, and the plan all along was to try and spin this toward pacquiao.
Seriously, how stupid do you have to be to even be able to convince yourself to believe this?
he's not the only one that thinks this.....it's like saying how stupid are you not to believe this? if floyd aint scared as pac is already willing to test before and RIGHT after the fight then just fight already. He's always talking about this is an easy fight why not do it? or Y not just admit you're somewhat scared, to get knocked out and lose. Man up already.
You really missed what i was saying. I was implying that casual fans of the sport, the ones who make up 75% of the crowd at a packed bar for a PPV, are suspicious of Manny not taking the test. How is that not tarnishing a reputation when there is a cloud of doubt as to why he won't take DRUG testing. All you can do is come back with your one sentence paragraphs and flomo remarks.
I get it that you probably have wet dreams of this guy, but just for one second, take a step back and look at this whole situation objectively, as Allucard said in another thread, it DOESN'T matter at this point who made the initial allegations. Nor, does it matter who asked for the blood testing, the fact is, Manny is refusing something that you are implying is outrageous, well, I fail to see how HGH testing is outrageous, its not like floyd is asking if he can load is gloves or some shit, which is what you guys make it out to be.
Take the tests, you shut EVERYONE UP, don't take them, people talk, which is exactly what you are trying to stop with a lawsuit but ends up having the reverse effect. Even if Manny won $50 million in court, if he doesn't do this drug testing, people will have a cloud of doubt. It's not just the 'flomos' even big guys in the industry a la Max Kellerman are suspicious, Miguel Cotto is suspicious, shit, my dog's even gettin a little suspicious...
pac agreed to the test not just the random multiple test throughout the training. before and after. how much more is there to be done. floyd's a whiney ass lil bitch. agree to pac on that and gloves up and fight and stop duckin. floyds career is done after he loses to pac. he'll be so shocked and embarassed and his life upside down. he's gonna come out the closet and give himself a new name "Gayboy Floyd"
Manny Pacquiao's most recent success and superstar appeal has Floyd acting like a jealous high school girl. Floyd cannot stand to play second fiddle to Manny Pacquiao. Manny's taken over and become the face of boxing in a matter of a few fights. Mayweather's been at that task since he picked up the Lightweight title from Genaro Hernandez 11 years ago. Floyd seems to be entirety overcome with jealously, greed and spite.
In recent interviews, he's been asked questions (about Manny Pacquiao) that resulted in him having jealous little hissyfits and being completely disrespectful and unprofessional during the sessions.
Interview with Brian Kenny: Got owned, couldn't stop stuttering, disrespectfully lashed back at Kenny, etc., etc., etc.
Interview with Max Kellerman: Completely disrespectful, too afraid to man up against Shane, turned his aggression on Max.
Interview with RA The Rugged Man: Complete Ownage (you gotta listen to that one yourself)
Scheduled appearance on Lopez Live: When asked about Manny Pacquiao, he decided to not show up.
And what's a jealous high school girl's favorite evil-doing? The Rumor. That's why Floyd started this whole steroid shitfest. Like a jealous high school girl trying to trash Manny's reputation, achievements and super star appeal. He's jealous and he's scared.
And you can thank Floyd for this fight not happening. He got what he wanted, a self gratifying "victory" over Manny Pacquiao without having to face him in the ring. But now he'll have to face him in court. Good Luck with that Floyd. The End.
well said!
c'mon ya, pac on roids? he's been tested before and came clean. he's even agreed to olympic testing. just not right before fight nite. 30 days before and right after the fight was fine with him. floyd is trying to play head games with this unecessary tests. if they're going to find something they will with the test after the fight. face it, floyd is scared of pacs power so he thinks pac is on roids. Wonder what will floyd think if pac comes clean?
His only advantage against the boatbuyer is raw aggression. In every other department he's outgunned.
so you're saying floyd has more power and speed than pac? I dont think so. Pac has more power, and slightly faster hands plus more combinations. floyds starts slow with just jabs, staights and hooks one punch at a time and will only throw combos when he sees that his opponent is hurt and he wont hurt pac easily. They both got skills evenly I would say just different style of skills.
I dont know, gettin rid of peds by way of its cycle? You guys make it seems so easy. If it were this damn easy I think everybody would be all PEDS up by now. Oh wait, maybe the phillipines has the best peds out there. Or maybe team pac is the only one that knows this secret thats how pac has belts in 7 division, unheard of right? I understand that he's not willing to do random testing, but he doesnt want to throughout the training. Heck, he said he give blood right now and right after the fight.
I just dont get it. pac is willing to take the test. end of story. fight already. He wouldnt take or agree if he was taking peds or roids. how the hell is he gonna rid of that stuff if they drawing blood. floyd is making shit too complicated. whiney ass lil biatch.
I usually like stated before don't talk anymore about Pac or May until they sign something but because you always seemed to be a reasonable guy to me I will break it down...
As Floyd came to WW Margarito had one belt and Judah was holding 3 and was recognized as undisputed WW Champ... he wanted to fight Judah right away but there was problems with the split and all that... so he warmed up against Mitchell... then he pretty much had Judah and everything pretty much was agreed to... but Judah had to defend his title against Baldomir or he would have been stripped... Judah lost, we all know the story.
Floyd went on with Judah which IMO is ok because he was the man one fight ago and beat him. AFterwards he had his nasty split with Arum...
He then had an offer to fight Margarito or Baldomir, who beat the man who was the man... he took Baldomir for the same amount of money and beat him and became undisputed champion...
After this I can't blame him for anything because everybody would have fought DLH... money/fame considerations... and the same with Hatton... everybody wants these guys... I can't blame him for that and if you do... you should blame your favorite fighter as well because they would have taken DLH and Hatton each and every day or the week over Margarito.
Cotto... and here we have to be fair... because we always say that a guy has to earn the number one spot... so the question is at which point did Cotto earned the spot or was considered one of the best at WW... by the way Cotto wasn't even at WW when Floyd arrived... I would say Cotto made his point with Mosley fight... and that was when Floyd retired.
Mosley since being back at WW had done nothing to be considered the best WW... Margarito in 2009 was the first thing (and as you can remember Floyd was retired)... he beat Collazo ok... he lost to Cotto... went up at 154 for again... and by the way his own promoter said that after the Baldomir fight Mosley had this fight on the table... DLH said to Mosley that he has first choice but he wanted to take an vacation so DLH took the fight... I mean it is ok to go to an vacation but the offer was there after the Baldomir fight and the fight would have happened in May (a half year later)... only because Mosley finally now wants to fight him Floyd has to say alright... c'mon... of course he took Pacquiao...
So the only one who has really a reason to cry is Margarito but based on the fact that he was at WW at the same time as Floyd... but we should also mention that it wasn't like he was a real fighting champion (he fought twice a year if he was lucky)... so it wasn't like he was something special at the time...
Mosley had his chance twice...
Cotto is simply bad timing (I wanted to see the fight too)
Margarito was there but at that time ain't had more right to flace Floyd then Baldomir
These are facts... just look it up and you will see...
The Mosley thing I believe was in article where the topic was something with Shane Mosley has only one fight left on his contract or something... there Schaefer said that Mosley had the Mayweather fight on the table... if the promoter from your opponent says it it's something different but if even your own promoter says that... it's pretty clear in my book. Somebody can post the article to confirm it
one thing thats tells me that Floyd ducked is when Larry merchant asked floyd after the hatton fight to see who he would be fighting next considering some of the top guys out there like, cotto, mosely, margo, williams. Floyd answered saying, im gonna retire from boxing and not let it retire me. And he surely did. He didnt want none of the bests out there so he left. When he left, those guys fought each other. floyd comes back and fights a smaller guy but claims that jmm was second p4p thats why he fought him. there where plenty of guys in his size and weight class he couldve fought. I dont get it when he says he's the best cuz he aint lost before I dont get it when floyd fans says he's the best cuz of the same reason. Just go and listen to RA the rugged man owns floyd. he puts it out real good.
I thnk floyd will have trouble with the stance of a southpaw. floyd sr. doesnt like floyd going against southpaws for a reason and sr. even said he dont want his son to fight pac for his personal reasons. floyd had some trouble with judah in the beginning rounds, but like floyd said judah(southpaw) is a frontrunner and will gas out half way through. D. corley(southpaw) gave floyd a hard time too. If you guys remember, interviews with the fighters of after fighting pac( diaz, dela hoya, hattan(he saw nothing coming), cotto) mentioned that they couldn't see where pacs punches were coming from. pacs throws in alot of angles. floyd will have more than just the left hand to worry about, his power, what he has learned in his training as he is picking up new moves just about everytime he fights someone, and we will see who is faster fight night.
ellerbe is a big mouth just like pussay weather. If ya wanna fight then fight. stop running and talking do damn much cuz I cant wait for pacman to shut the whole gayweather team and world of pachaters the f**K up. hatton is a tough fighter but did shit to floyd and floyd had a hard time. If it was manny in hattan shoes, floyd woulda got floored. Floyd would get his ass :spank:
Joy Joy Joy......karma has come back to kiss you in the ass after that krazy rant on pac....floyd is mad at the world right now and life aint going great for him.....loser
pac pac pac....he's on top of the world and loving it and he's got some ass to whoop soon and can do it freely and not worry about going to jail. hahaha
if joy was to man up and fight pac than all this bad stuff wouldnt even be happening to him. well, expect get his ass beat by pac at the end of the day.:boxing:
I think Pacquiao power is overrated but thats just me I mean he never knocked out Oscar he didn't knockout Cotto and didn't knockout Clottey I mean he knocked out Hatton but so did Floyd and people say Floyd can't punch so none of this leads me to believe that Pacquiao can or will knockout Margarito I do think Pacquiao will win a wide UD but knockout Margarito I just don't see that happening
looking at the shane vs. tony fight, shane landed shots easily and I dont think in that fight shane is as fast as manny will be(will see due to training). manny may have a little less power than shane but if he is faster he will land more and tony being the bigger guy is gonna be coming forward and it'll be like cars crashing head on with pacs fist to margos chin. Now, about knocking out these other fighters. On Oscar, did you see his face? pac unloaded but didnt go for the kill yet still being cautious of the bigger guy. He didnt have to knock oscar out he made him give up. so I dont know which is worse. Cotto, pac knocked him down with his right(first). the second one got cotto dancing LOL!....and he never recovered from that. He ran the rest of the fight to save face from getting put to sleep and didnt give up cuz he knows how much shame oscar had doing so. margo couldnt even do that to cotto he just punished him and cotto gave a knee. Now thats just a volume puncher with okay power. LOL! floyd and hatton? I think the corner ring post helped him little bit there hahaha....
marquez is out of his mind. He aint that big, especially after that one sided loss to floyd. Plus, I dont think marquez can handle pac in the ww class. He's slow and not as good as he is in the lightweights. pac is still fast and much stronger now that he's in the ww's plus he's improved more. Though I would like to see a Cotto vs marquez. That would draw some attention.
why you guys hating on the pinoys anyways? if someone can get hooked up, they surely earned it. pretty sure some of you guys gotten hooked up for something from someone you know before. and the latin fury? not dissing, but pac has gone beyond any latin in history. and he'll probably beat anyone latin too, haha
also, a boxer going in a octagon with just his boxing skills up a against a mma fighter is will be a slaughter just like a mma fighter going into a boxing ring and can only box.
how the hell is pac ducking? pac wants to fight. floyd is the one not willing to go with the 24 days. if he wanted to fight he woulda gone with it. yall falling for floyds chicken shit. he tryin to say all this shit now that it aint happening. If you want to fight or say that you want to whip pacs ass then agree to the 24 day and ****en fight lil puss. Pacs a machine and fights everyone. Floyds the known ducker.
Kermit Cintron with wrestling + boxing = MMA fighter (not just a pure boxer)
Same deal with Toney... He is doing wrestling for takedown defense, grappling to learn how to get back to stand up. I've seen him throwing some knees..
Wrestling + ground game + knees + boxing = MMA fighter.
His boxing is main focus, but he is doing other necesarry stuff. Just like Couture's main focus is to wrestler but he is doing other necesarry stuff.
You wan't to proove boxing is superior? Send a boxer in there with no training in other martial arts, and maybe you can do it. But when a boxer works on his wrestling, BJJ, muay thai he is not a pure boxer anymore.. He is MMA (mixed martial arts) fighter.
very true, but it'll be unfair for a boxer as they can only use their hands. for it to be fair if a boxer only uses his boxing skills(hands only) it would be like couture can only use wrestling and wrestling submissions only. meaning he cant throw punches or even kicks. maybe there should be a fighting sport of pure styles only and no mma. that'll be interesting.
no,because all he fights is old and slow fighters which is the second biggest reason that he won't fight mayweather. you can out punch any fighter thats slow and old. thats what frauddy roach,pacquiao,and arum said about mosley after mayweather sliced him up.now they are fighting mosley.
LOL! maybe pac should of fought andre berto huh? who lost to victor ortiz....Berto wouldnt have lasted with pac and victor either. they are younger and good but not good enough and experienced enough. I bet you berto and ortiz would have a hard time beating shane also. Heck I like to see them fight mosely after pac wins this fight(not counting mosley out totally). Just to shut guys like you who thinks pac is scared to fight younger guys when they arent even at his level.
you guys are underestimating toney. it seems like couture will kill this guy cuz he has mixed martial arts so that means he has more in his arsenal but toney has got more hands skills and power than anyone couture has ever faced. looked what happen when couture fought chuck. couture got knocked out twice. toney can easily go with the same game plan or even a better one. what happens when couture shoots for a double leg takedown they say? toney can easily catch him in a uppercut and puts him to sleep. but this is ufc and anything can happen...