Floyd not the first ask but Pac is the first boxer to run from this Peds testing

Shane didn't take the test what are you talking about? Do you know of what you speak? GBP said no, then Judah suffered a cut and the fight got cancelled. Shane was not going to take it... I was not jumping up and down when Zab ask for it you right. But, I am not jumping up and down because Floyd is asking for it either. I would love random blood testing in the that would be awesome if it becomes mandatory. I have sent 3 emails to the NSAC explaining why I think they should have a mandatory random blood testing. How many have you sent? What is Floyd legitimate claim? Is Pac link to any kind of steroid abuser? Is Pac link to any kind of PED company? Is Pac link to any kind of PED distributor? Has Pac ever failed a drug test? So where exactly is this legitimate claim? Because Pac is knocking Mofo's out? Is that the only reason why and you think to that is a legitimate claim to ask for it? You letting your nuthuggery/hatred blind you. It seems like you deep down you already made your mind up that Pac is juicing I can tell by all your post that is what you believe. And, there is nothing Pac can do that will make you change your mind. That is why you can not see both sides of the argument. So there really no point of talking about this situation. Your wrong on many issues here ,,, with Shane I dont know the outcome somebody said he was willing to take it , I was overseas at the time and not viewing this fight or its goings on , either way it is irrelevant to this beceause this has its own situation and should stand on its own merit not the petty precedents that people cite . Floyd has a legitimate right to ask for this the reason doesnt matter to anybody but Floyd , if Floyd thinks in the slightest he is juicing and got big improvement in 18 mth after he just toyed with the fighter that went within a hair with Pac , that my friend is legit just cause , if you wanna star in a porno movie you will be forced to have an aids test no matter if you look as healthy as 10 men and tested negative 1000 times before , when it comes to PEDS and diseases you only have to think maybe to legitimize a test , thats the world we live whether you like it or not . Deep down in side I dont think Pac is juicing but I do think he needs to be tested this way to prove it now that he has been popped the question and said NO . Im a fan of Manny the fighter , great fighter , I think the only guy that can actually beat Floyd not that I think he will , Shane will get streeted by Floyd , Manny is the one guy that can beat him , so no friend Im not hating on Manny I think he is wrong in what he is doing and is looking very suspicious in the process .

yea, he must of missed that but than again you know these pac fans hear what they wanna hear I am sorry did Oscar/GBP come out and said that Pac refusing to take blood test looks suspicious? Did that not happen? Did Arum not mention of getting the same company testing that NBA/MLB/NFL has? And, did GBP/Mayweather not shoot down? But, again Floyd fans don't care about none of that... they just care about Floyd...

Im not sure I think it was more tests than you cite , there is a thread about it with the details . kk :fing02:

did shane say no?there is video of manny sayin he wants a 30 day cut off He didn't have to say GBP said no for him... He was not going to do it. Schafer straight up said no. He straight up said Shane is taking the test that the NSAC asks of him. And, that is it... And, it got dropped after it. It was never brought up again. Where was your outrage for that?

Was it Olympic style testing(5 blood tests, 8 urine tests in 30 days)? Im not sure I think it was more tests than you cite , there is a thread about it with the details .

GBP said no last year so there you go.... And, you did not care, so why do you care now? did shane say no?there is video of manny sayin he wants a 30 day cut off

Abraham has it in his contracts so Floyd is not the first to want better blood testing of opponents , but Pac is the first fighter in history to say no to more stringent random blood testing , add that to his achievements . Was it Olympic style testing(5 blood tests, 8 urine tests in 30-60 days)?

I wasnt even aware of it at the time and Shane said yes and took the test anyway and it wasnt made a big noise about noe was the fight anywhere near the history defining fight this is , Pac is saying no , big difference , why do I care now same reason you do , why do you ask . I couldnt find you jumping up and down because Judah asked for it . Why do you guys just beat around the bush with all this stuff thats not really relevant to the current situation , Floyd has a legitimate claim in asking for this type of testing Pac is saying no , no other clean athlete has done that in the history of sport , not suspicious , who are you kidding . Shane didn't take the test what are you talking about? Do you know of what you speak? GBP said no, then Judah suffered a cut and the fight got cancelled. Shane was not going to take it... I was not jumping up and down when Zab ask for it you right. But, I am not jumping up and down because Floyd is asking for it either. I would love random blood testing in the that would be awesome if it becomes mandatory. I have sent 3 emails to the NSAC explaining why I think they should have a mandatory random blood testing. How many have you sent? What is Floyd legitimate claim? Is Pac link to any kind of steroid abuser? Is Pac link to any kind of PED company? Is Pac link to any kind of PED distributor? Has Pac ever failed a drug test? So where exactly is this legitimate claim? Because Pac is knocking Mofo's out? Is that the only reason why and you think to that is a legitimate claim to ask for it? You letting your nuthuggery/hatred blind you. It seems like you deep down you already made your mind up that Pac is juicing I can tell by all your post that is what you believe. And, there is nothing Pac can do that will make you change your mind. That is why you can not see both sides of the argument. So there really no point of talking about this situation.

your constant false info is really astounding.. realize..Schaefer speaks as a middle man for Floyd, since Floyd and Arum dont get along..Schaefer DIDNT REQUEST THE TESTING FOR PAC, TEAM MAYWEATHER DID..Schaefer is only the messenger..thats the difference..he isnt asking for a "even level playing field"..Mayweather's camp is..as far as Mosley/Judah..Mosleys BALCO scandal wanst public then..Mosley refused to testing and Schaefer delivers the decision that they wont do any blood test..ect..and now we know why Mosley refused... who told you USADA was GBP affiliated..Arum?..the same guy with the "needle phobia" theory...first off...USADA is a government fundued company created in 2000..they are not affiliated w/ GBP..and if you dont remember. Schaefer said they were willing to use another company other than USADA...as long as the random blood testing was still in effect!...Arum/Pac still refused..proving it didnt matter who tested to begin with..they just didnt want it random! yea, he must of missed that but than again you know these pac fans hear what they wanna hear

I just dont get it. pac is willing to take the test. end of story. fight already. He wouldnt take or agree if he was taking peds or roids. how the hell is he gonna rid of that stuff if they drawing blood. floyd is making shit too complicated. whiney ass lil biatch. He is not willing to take the test , this is not a single test its a procedure , they want random testing with reasonable cut off point to make Manny happy they have said they would except 5-14 days cut off and 2-5 random tests over the course of training , Pac says no to this testing and want to change the way they test telling them when to test lol , thats not up to Pac or Floyd thats up to the testers , no other clean athlete has said no to stringent testing before that I can find anywhere in sporting history .

I just dont get it. pac is willing to take the test. end of story. fight already. He wouldnt take or agree if he was taking peds or roids. how the hell is he gonna rid of that stuff if they drawing blood. floyd is making shit too complicated. whiney ass lil biatch.

speak english fine no? you absent teacher teach period yes? Bruno would say you donkey brain with limp proboscis , me I just think dickhead with no ball bearings .

Please tell me wheb I have brought floyds family into debate.wife kids etc You are throwing elbows and lowblows because you are being outpointed. On the contrary Im winning in second gear , you have brought in things about Floyds private life many times I did the same , headbutt for headbutt , only mine proves Pac lies , my round booyeah !!

No use period yes? you time hard english writing yes? Your looking for my older brother Bruno , he flew back to the old country yesterday I speak English fine .

GBP said no last year so there you go.... And, you did not care, so why do you care now? I wasnt even aware of it at the time and Shane said yes and took the test anyway and it wasnt made a big noise about noe was the fight anywhere near the history defining fight this is , Pac is saying no , big difference , why do I care now same reason you do , why do you ask . I couldnt find you jumping up and down because Judah asked for it . Why do you guys just beat around the bush with all this stuff thats not really relevant to the current situation , Floyd has a legitimate claim in asking for this type of testing Pac is saying no , no other clean athlete has done that in the history of sport , not suspicious , who are you kidding .

Please tell me wheb I have brought floyds family into debate.wife kids etc You are throwing elbows and lowblows because you are being outpointed.

Off course saying no makes Pac look suspicious , no clean athlete will say no to stringent blood testing as Pac has , show me one instance in sport where it was asked for and the athlete said no , Ive searched and I cant find it anywhere ,, do you really think saying no doesnt make Pac look suspicious , you very gullible if you think that in this day and age , the guy cheated on his wife that would entail alot of deceit and cover up , he aint Jesus walking on water . GBP said no last year so there you go.... And, you did not care, so why do you care now?

Seriously. You do not know manny and jinkees relationship. He may have came clean. Maybe she had issues. In a 60 year marriage these issues are petty. That is no ones business but theirs. If you are bringing his marital problems into this debate then it is clear that you are more a Hater of Pacquiao than I am a fan. Dont be ridicules you bring Floyds family life and everything from his tax return to his sexual preference into the forum , Floyds private life is opened up on here by you and your like as if a can of sardines , and then you make all this innuendo about Pac cheating on his wife in the context of if he is capable of lying , my friend you are as bias as one can be .

I understand they are doing what team Mayweather is asking them to do... But, at the same time Schafer and Oscar have come out and said that it makes Pac look suspicious, you have Oscar contracting himself saying that Manny hits as hard as Shane and Vargas did... Why not come out and say we understand where Pac is coming from. We get it, we was in the same positions as he was a year ago. We do not think he is on anything but we need to clean up the sport. We realized we made a mistake by turning down Judah request. But, since this will be the biggest fight in the history of boxing(which really it won't be) that we want to set a precedent for all future fights. If they would of said something like that. I would be OK. But, they didn't they matter of fact questioned Pac. When they did the exact same thing a year ago. Why the double standard? That is all I am asking... Off course saying no makes Pac look suspicious , no clean athlete will say no to stringent blood testing as Pac has , show me one instance in sport where it was asked for and the athlete said no , Ive searched and I cant find it anywhere ,, do you really think saying no doesnt make Pac look suspicious , you very gullible if you think that in this day and age , the guy cheated on his wife that would entail alot of deceit and cover up , he aint Jesus walking on water .

My friend give me a break , you try to come across as being objective and then say your undecided if Pac has lied to his wife where its common knowledge he has cheated on her , I didnt go any further because its obvious from that all YOUR answers favor Pacquiao . Seriously. You do not know manny and jinkees relationship. He may have came clean. Maybe she had issues. In a 60 year marriage these issues are petty. That is no ones business but theirs. If you are bringing his marital problems into this debate then it is clear that you are more a Hater of Pacquiao than I am a fan.