Will Manny ever get CREDIT for his wins?

all GREAT fighters get hated on around here.....I even heard people shittin' on Ray Robinson's wins!!....jealousy, envy and hate comes with success.....success Sucks!!! :lol1:.....but seriously, a throne without thorns is like triumph without glory!! :boxing:

If he beats someone at the official weight he will get credit LOL!!whats that suppose to mean?? he only fought one catchweight!

let them discredit. it doesn't diminish a pacfans opinion to his accomplishments. a fan is a fan.

I see we have a boxing bitch here:wank: No need to call him names. Thats his opinion. You cant please everyone.

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He gets enough credit until recently when people are starting to break down his resume/wins, When you're on top thats what happens to you but he does get enough credit for me, People are comapring him to Henry armstrong and saying he's better than sugar ray robinson so how is he not getting any credit???

Man, Manny Pacquiao is the one of the best paid man in the planet. How the hell you think he is not getting credit of it?? And most people agree that Ricky Hatton and Miguel Cotto was very impressive victory's in Jr. WW.

only the haters discredit him. everyone else already knows he's in the top 20 ATG. there will always be haters.

i cant understand this topic at all... hehehe

Don't mistake the ranting of 4-5 idiots for a lack of credit in the wider boxing public. 95%+ of boxing fans and more importantly every boxing expert outside the Mayweather camp give him credit for his wins.

Pacquiao is already way overrated.. end of thread.. I see we have a boxing bitch here:wank:

I mean look at his last several fights. People claim: Cotto is shot since the Margarito ass beating. Hatton was overrated Oscar was drained and years past his prime David Diaz was a bum Juan Manual Marquez was robbed of a win Now people (including pro boxers that know a bit of what goes behind the scenes) are saying Manny is a juicer. Will PacMan ever get the respect he deserves? Will he get it if he beats Floyd Mayweather? http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/ABPub/2008/06/29/2008024484.jpgThese people don't appreciate boxing. They rather talk shit about boxing than actually enjoy boxing. They're not proper fans, they're bitches. Doesn't matter what they think because they're irrelevant. No-one can win a fight nowadays without there being a problem with the opponent. While me and you will enjoy watching the pac - mayweather fight for what it is, these boxing bitches won't. **** em!!!

In the boxing world. you only get credit after 30+ years being retired when the old fools and haters of this generation can't even type anymore because they are too old to use a computer. Or some.. dead... :439:

I mean look at his last several fights. People claim: Cotto is shot since the Margarito ass beating. Hatton was overrated Oscar was drained and years past his prime David Diaz was a bum Juan Manual Marquez was robbed of a win Now people (including pro boxers that know a bit of what goes behind the scenes) are saying Manny is a juicer. Will PacMan ever get the respect he deserves? Will he get it if he beats Floyd Mayweather? http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/ABPub/2008/06/29/2008024484.jpg Pacquiao is already way overrated.. end of thread..

Regardless of whether he gets credit I don't understand how people can ridicule his opponents yet claim his on roids. 1.) Cotto--came in 145, which every pound counts as a fighter. Was drained. His punch resistence was destroyed by a guy accused of plastering his fists. 2.) Ricky Hatton--who reportedly sky rocketed to the 180s after fights only to go back down. He has been doing it for years--a reason for his suspect chin. Was rocked numerous times with precision punches. Looked repeatedly drained in weigh-ins over the years at 140. 3.) Oscar--Nothing needs to be said--drained, old, couldn't hold a candle against an 8year old kid if he fought one. *While some of these points are valid and plausible----how can someone say he is therefore on steroids if he was given the circumstances to get performances the way he did from his opponents? If they were already lined up for him to TKO/KO, which maybe true, why then accuse him of roids?

This. Recognise that he gets credit from millions, but that there are plenty of idiots out there. There's always a small minority that are either (1) Complete idiots (2) Just trolling for the sake of it. Ignore said people. Manny is a fantastic fighter and so is Floyd. Neither will get the credit they deserve until they're retired. Both are already HOF during their active time. And both will be ATGs when they retire, no matter who wins the march fight. Of course you can analyze a fighter's carreer to the point that every win is just "so-so". There are people on the boards who do that for Ali, Lennox, or Tyson, and point out that even these ATGs had many mediocre wins. But it's not only the record which counts for history. PBF has the best defense I have ever seen. He has many great names on his record. He is undefeated and is TOP3 for about 10 years, even if he fights not too often. Pacman moved up five (?) weight classes and gathered belts in every class. He has impressive punching power, and seems to be getting better as he moves up. His resume is as impressive as Mayweather's, at least. He brought boxing into the spotlight of millions of people. I give credit to both men, bitching/ducking/steroid talk/greed nonwithstanding.

floyd sr will never finish with the steroid allegations if floyd jr loses

Out of 55 total fights only one bout was unofficial Cotto-Pac. 50 wins.... Hater :poke: my thoughts exactly, there will always be haters, just like racism, violence or world hunger. people od to stay cool and just enjoy the sport of boxing.

Millions upon millions of Loyal Pacman Fans give him credit for all of his wins. Only the few haters, distractors and posters here that have an "Axe-to-grind" with Manny won't give him any "Props." Tsk, tsk for these people. JAT :wave: