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Fitz, Langford, Ketchel, Walker were all MW's who proved their power against HW's. All the other MW's don't even belong in the same discussion.

Why do people use the word "hatred" everytime someone brings up something accurate about the Klitschkos? Wlad spent 2004-2008 fighting fringe contenders, he did not unify a damn thing during this time period. He is 244 lbs with a bigger brother watching over him and he still ducked every living thing with a belt during this time period. Soon as his 6'8 insurance policy dies off he will be back to his true form. lol were all Champs, former champs, top rated contenders, or mandatories. In that time the only lower tier guys he fought were williamson and castillo back to back after the Brewster loss which is understandable.

Uzelkov is like AA part 2...watches then attacks while blocking nearly everything you throw he keeps the high guard but he offers alot more upper body movement, slipping shots and shoulder rolls once and a while.

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Her grunts are sexy. :wank: .......she's 6'2 btw

lomachenko? i don't know, but i heard teddy talking about him getting stopped. Lomachenko is a FW Teddy was talking about Sillakh having gotten stopped multiple times by top tier amateurs and saying that it could be his achillies heel, not Despaigne.

He should target Valuev. That's a pretty sick fight. Assuming the giant is still fighting. He said he wants to fight European HW's. i'd love to see him against Helenius, Povetkin, Liakhovich, Boytsov.

However, for the second time, he broke his promise to the WBC and ignored their ruling. The 15th of January deadline passed, as did the 15th of March deadline, and not only had Dawson failed to fight Diaconu, but he had not even started negotiations with him, nor had he managed to fight Johnson, with whom he had signed a deal, yet. In doing so, Chad Dawson ducked Adrian Diaconu for the third time. The WBC had finally had enough. Dawson had failed to honour his contractual obligations to the sanctioning body and to his mandatory challenger three times now, and having been forgiven twice only for him to go back on his word, enough was enough. For having repeatedly ducked his mandatory challenger, he was to be stripped of his title. Chad Dawson's fight against Glen Johnson was to be a non-title fight. After all, Dawson wasn't the only boxer in the world that should be allowed to fight for a world title. Diaconu had done more than enough to earn his shot at the title and Dawson had no right not only not to fight him, as his mandatory, but also to stop him from competing for the title by hugging the belt indefinitely. Too much was too much. The most demeaning, dishonourable part of the sordid affair was yet to pass, however. Having ducked Diaconu and having arranged to fight Johnson long after the deadline, threatened with being stripped of his title, Dawson, accompanied by his promoter, Gary Shaw, reportedly flew over to Mexico and camped out for two days in front of the WBC President's residence, begging to be allowed in to petition him. Thus, after they had waited for two days outside his house, the WBC President allowed them in, unwillingly. Dawson begged him to sanction his fight against Glen Johnson as a title fight, claiming poverty and arguing he would be unable to feed his family if he were stripped. Impressed by his sorry story of woe, the WBC President forgave him for the third time, sided with him again and finally agreed to sanction the fight against Johnson as a world title fight. Having been reprieved for a third time, unbelievably, Dawson lowered himself even further. Having ducked Diaconu three times and having stopped him from competing for a world title three times by hugging the belt, and having just been allowed to fight Johnson with the belt on the table, Dawson had the nerve to ask the WBC President to revoke Diaconu's mandatory status for good yet again, so that the winner of Dawson v. Johnson would never have to face Diaconu ever again! In other words, he demanded that Diaconu never get a title shot for the WBC title! The WBC President, flabbergasted at the request, couldn't bring himself to swallow yet another injustice. He told Dawson that he would allow Diaconu to fight for the WBC Interim Championship and that the winner of Dawson v. Johnson would have to fight the WBC Interim Champion within 120 days, or get stripped of his share of the title. Incredibly, the President even asked Dawson to sign a contract agreeing to respect this ruling of the WBC! How humiliating! And this after Dawson had brazenly ignored the WBC's rulings on three separate occasions! Dawson agreed, finally and signed the contract. This is how it came to pass that Dawson fought Johnson with the belt on the table and how Diaconu got to fight Henry for the Interim Title.

yeah you just made yourself look like even more of an idiot....didnt think it was possible.....:banana: for the record, anyone with any kind of boxing sense knows the only reason chad even struggled with glen is because he tried to bomb him out early and gassed...... and all the old man talk just proves you guys are ****ing ignorant as far as the light heavy division is concerned..... shumenov is still a disgrace, he had to ****ing buy his own event to rob campillo :lol1: chad dawson would absolutely clown his ass... I'd certianly enjoy seeing the fight. Shumenov's workrate and 95% power punches lol style would be interesting to see vs Dawson. Dawson's chin can be had.

Orneals and Jones II Hopkins without PEDS. Pascal with PEDS

i did not mean to affirm diaconu's injury was bs against dawson specifically....but we do know most people think he has lied about hand injuries, right?(because the branco fight wasnt selling as quick) so that counts against him....at least imo fair opinion

jd is this http://ireignsupreme.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/jack_daniels-9205.gif ah John Daniels "don't you mean Jack?" "When you've known him as long as i have it's John" what movie is that from?

did findley's short ass have me fooled or was it the jd? http://www.xtremeidiots.com/uploads/000189/assets/logo-lick-my-balls-large.png lol jd?

You do realize that Tarver looked better against Woods then Cloud did right? You do realize that that had everything to do with Woods choking and throwing 5 ppr and nothing to do with Tarver being any good right? Couldn't you have gotten a more biased article? Forget all that, all I need to see is look at Diaconu's timeline... 2009-04-04 David Whittom 2008-04-19 Chris Henry 2007-05-09 Rico Hoye Almost a year in between both fights. Dawson fought 5 fights in between (3 against fighters ranked higher than Diaconu). Diaconu was scheduled to fight Silvio Branco how many times after the Henry fight? So you're still trying to assert that Diaconnu ducked Dawson 3 times lol that article has some truth in it......i do think chad had no intention of fighting diaconu after diaconu pulled out of their fight....but that was showtimes doing....everyone knows chad vs tarver was what they had been building up(you know with the whole double header thing)....diaconu ****ed himself pulling out... showtime had just discovered chad, and heavily invested on tarver, so they wanted that fight badly ruiz and muriqui were supposed to be tune ups for the dawson-tarver fight...but since tarver looked like shit, he wanted another tune up. so there it was, diaconus chance and he pulls out(and lets remeber he also had a "hand injury" when he was having promoter problems when he pulled out of the branco fight) chad fought epi then and tarver fought santiago in another double header...tarver agin thinks he had some work to do still so glen johnson and clinton woods, the other top ranked light heavys are available and ready to legitimize the last tune up before the big fight.......glen johnson, a more respected better fighter than diaconu takes an overconfident chad to the brink, while the seemingly past it tarver turns it around and dominates woods in what was supposed to be a pick'em fight..... of course chad wasnt gonna fight diaconu when tarver and johnson were available.... that article may work on people with no common sense or who wernet following the whole tarver-dawson saga.......but not on me Aside from you claiming it was a bs injury this is a reasonable summary. The article was just to get basics down to refute Q who is talking out of his ass. I do realize the author got quite dramatic with it.

I'd hope so....that it is the least they could do...they might as well have thrown the guys in the middle of death valley and started ringing the bell, lol lol lol. They should fight with sunglasses. Oh even better 3D glasses. You know so the punches seem more real. lol Seriously i hope the sun goes down enough so it isn't an issue in the main event, that would be ****ed up.

ah. i understand babalou and his super-hero team are in town http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg103/2steelhead/shumenov2.jpg Is Beibut jackass. I'm assuming the guy on the left is his brother, fuker looks like he's at least 6'5.

lmao the sun is blinding the fighters, well this was a well thought out event. hopefully the sun goes down before the main event. Do they not have a canope or something covering the ring area itself?

Walt - who stopped Despaigne in the Amateurs?

Damn man, really??? Chad has a good defense and has never really been tested outside of Johnson 1 and Adamek...i think that too would be a great COMPETITIVE fight...I can't see anyone easily beating Dawson though. Any guy that beats Adamek is a real tough cat to beat....real tough to beat.. If Dawson sticks around at lhw for another 2 years i think Sillakh will beat him.

Come August 14th, Chad's last 5 fights would have come against top 5 opposition (Johnson x2, Tarver x2, Pascal). When he went after a title, he took on the strongest titleholder (Adamek) and took him to school. How many times did Diaconu pull out of a fight against Dawson? Mendoza even had to step in as a replacement for Diaconu. After Dawson got tired of waiting for the clown, he vacated to took on the much more dangerous Glen Johnson. How long has he been calling out Calzaghe and Hopkins? I thought so... That is some distorted retelling of events if iv ever heard any. Here is an article with an acurate synopsis of that whole time period On the 9th of May 2007, Adrian Diaconu earned his place as mandatory challenger to Chad Dawson's WBC title with an emphatic three round brutal demolition of Rico Hoye. Chad Dawson, however, had other plans. He was chasing a fight with Antonio Tarver instead. Tarver, who had looked faded, unmotivated and lacking in focus against Bernard Hopkins the previous year, seemed easy prey to Dawson and a good trophy win on his resume to help augment his profile and help him enter the big-league of American boxing. Tarver however, didn't give in to Dawson's advances. He was on a carefully managed comeback trail. Whilst trying to draw Tarver in, Dawson voluntarily defended his WBC title against aged journeyman Jesus Ruiz. Under pressure to arrange a fight against mandatory challenger Adrian Diaconu and having failed to interest Tarver in a fight against him, Chad Dawson unwillingly relented. After seemingly endless negotiations, he agreed to face his mandatory Diaconu on the 29th of September in Sacramento, California. It was a much anticipated fight between the two best young contenders in an aged division. The clash of styles presented a mouth-watering prospect – the aggressive, explosive but fairly limited puncher against the smooth, fast, versatile but weak-chinned and tactically ill-disciplined boxer – both prime, live, unbeaten and hungry for success and acclaim, both with much to prove. Dawson had to prove his chin and mental strength; Diaconu – his class and skill. Ten days before the fight, disaster struck; Diaconu injured his hand in training – an MRI scan revealed bone contusions in his right hand and Diaconu was forced to pull out. At very short notice, aged, faded journeyman Epifanio Mendoza stepped in to give Dawson a stay busy fight and keep the card alive and the TV networks happy. Diaconu came back from injury in October. He was reinstated as mandatory challenger by the WBC. Here, the story turns sour. Dawson argued that since Diaconu had pulled out, he shouldn't have to fight him. He argued that his fight against Mendoza should count as his mandatory defence of his title and that Diaconu's status as mandatory challenger should be revoked. The WBC, rightfully, insisted that since Diaconu has pulled out with a bona fide injury and was presently both very able and eager to challenge Dawson for the title, the Champion, Dawson, should make arrangements to fight his mandatory, Diaconu, as soon as possible, before fighting anyone else. Incredibly, Dawson ignored the WBC's ruling. He refused to enter negotiations with Diaconu. This is the first time that Dawson ducked Diaconu. Not only had he tried to have Diaconu's mandatory status revoked for good, but he ignored a direct order from the WBC to fight Diaconu. Instead, Dawson was still chasing Tarver. Realising that Tarver remained uninterested in a fight against him at this stage, requiring more time to get back into shape and put his career back on track, Dawson started chasing a fight against 39-year old legend Glen Johnson instead. The "Road Warrior", Dawson thought, would be great risk/reward. A win over Johnson would make him well-known and open many doors for the ambitious Dawson. Having ignored the WBC's ruling and ducked Diaconu, Dawson entered formal negotiations with Johnson in late 2007. In doing so, he ducked his mandatory challenger Diaconu a second time! Surprisingly, the WBC didn't take Dawson's slight to heart, forgave him for his transgression, changed its mind in his favour and very generously permitted Dawson to fight Johnson first, as long as he agreed to fight Diaconu (if he remained Champion) by the 15th of March 2008. With this in mind, the WBC ordered Dawson to fight Johnson by the 15th of January 2008 at the latest. Dawson agreed.

The White Wolf probably make the most sense right now. And there's always Grant if he wants a big guy before Helenuis. Well it looks like Helenius and Liakhovich may be fighting. Liakhovich Arreola could produce fireworks i think. Grant would be a decent stay busy fight tbh.

lulz at Teddy referring to concentration camps as "training camp" *You know you watch too much Boxing when...*

I don't play video games but that ad for Homefront looks pretty awesome.

you wanna throw down some epoints with me on the cuban? i got the ruskie No sir. It's a pick'em and im not invested in either guy. Just want to see a great scrap. I'm genuinely mystified as to how the two most talented up and coming LHW's with only 8 and 14 pro fights are facing eachhother. this is the type of sh*t that should be happening in boxing.......and it's happening, wtf is going on?

thanks tunneys girlfriend. http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg103/2steelhead/shumenov2.jpg ok there bob

I think part of the reason is Arreola is so light. ?? So he's having a more difficult time against an inactive & short notice Releford than 200lb Alekseev because he's lighter?? Confused

Artur Beterbiyev KO'ed him badly in the ams. Matvey Korobov who is still a 160lber in the pros and doesn't look to be a huge 1 punch KO artist did too.

What does it matter how old they are when they've proven themselves to be better than top 20 year olds? He was calling out the 36 year old Calzaghe as soon as he had beaten Hopkins. And he's been calling out Hopkins. What was Hopkins before and after the Calzaghe fight? The Ring Champion, then #1 in front of Dawson... What was Calzaghe after the Hopkins fight until he retired? The Ring Champion... Where were Johnson and Tarver ranked when he fought them? Rotating at 3,4,5, behind Calzaghe, Hopkins, and Dawson himself. Who is he fighting now? #3 Pascal... What is he fighting for? The Ring Championship because he already clearly beat the #2. Exactly, so fukc outta here with that hatin' shit. Glossing over the absurd Diaconu situation you tried to twist around are we? I give Dawson credit for the Johnson win (not wins) but he gets no credit from me for the Tarver wins. I don't care what he was ranked he was fighting a washed up shell for name recognition. Those wins are as significant as Klychko's over Rahman, seriously.

its on now. syllakh vs despaigne. two hot lwh undefeated prospects. badass amateurs great fight wasn't sure if this was this weekend or next. good thing i double checked. Cannot wait for this ****.

wow. i'm impressed.