None of these guys are beating Lomachenko, he's on a different level.
Salido got the win because he didn't bother making weight, came in enormous, punched Lomachenko in the balls 50+ times, headbutted and the ref allowed it.
Also, Salido is a dirty, pressure fighter with a chin. He's nothing like Linares.
hopefully we see it, i think loma is the better boxer but linares has a lot of qualities that will cause him big problems, think his size for one will be hard to overcome
last time i checked usyk didn't beat a former undisputed cruiser-weight champion in haye, like bellew did, i think they've wrote bellew off vs flores makabu and vs haye and he still won all of those fights
I haven't seen Hunter much as a pro, but I think Usyk is of unique skill. I mean Usyk is already the #1 guy in the division in my eyes + I think he's already getting P4P rumblings by the nerds who talk about that sci fi bs. Hunter hasn't even fought in almost a year which isn't gonna help him here either. Respect to Hunter on that Isiah Thomas W that showed he's a solid & skilled cat himself, but Usyk is a HUGE jump up in class & if Hunter doesn't get stopped here I'll be surprised.
bit premature i know he's good win as an amateur but dorticos, bellew have a very very good shot at beating usyk and possibly stopping him
No he isnt.
Bellew doesnt beat a single top 10 CW. He is the luckiest guy in boxing right now.
Wins a vacant belt V a midget.
Defends Vs a guy not rated in the top 30
Wins via an injury
= guys like you then claim hes a 'top' CW and would 'KO Usyk' :lol1: :lol1:
you mean like flores? who was ranked in the top ten? or haye who was not at CW but a former undisputed cruiserweight champion, ok, has usyk beat anyone as good as haye? literally pointless responding to people like yourself, but no biggie, I've run into people 100 time's worse it's actually a breath of fresh air even debating so i respect your opinion to some degree
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I guess ur a big usyk fan then? as am I but if you dismiss dorticos and bellew two big big puncher at cruiserweight over usyk, then u don't know boxing, mchuna was also getting through with a lot of shots. a few from bellew or dorticos could be a different story, dorticos is also 6 4 and bigger than usyk
If i was betting this fight i would take Hunter for the upset being a live under dog, Usyk is highly overatted to what ppl describe him.
Hunter 12 rnd decision close fight.
Yes usyk is overrated imo also, you never know i'd like to see tabiti dorticos and bellew in there vs usyk too
lmao bellew is TRASH, he got a gift decision V Masternek FFS
The question would be, would he win a single round V usyk, let alone knock him out. :lol1:
YDSAB son.
Masternek got robbed vs bellew?? JESUS CHRIST HAHAHA i think I'll leave it there
virgil hunter is going to f-uck up that slow euro robot. virgil hunter has the best trainer....himself!
didn't know he trained him, hunter with hunter then
you think tony ****ing bellew would KO usyk, i dont think your in any kind of position at attempted mockery :lol1:
I doubt you even saw the Masternek fight.
Yeh I did it was a fairly close fight up until the last few rounds were bellew almost koed him you claiming it was a robbery LMAO no words for that, i guess you wrote bellew off vs haye to? usyk obviously is the favourite but your acting like he's untouchable, he was getting hit a lot by mchuna who's a lot smaller, bellew and dorticos are top cruiserweights they are no joke
hunter also beat beterbiev as an amateur in the olympics, who has two wins over usyk, hunter is big and solid fighter used to spar klitschko among other heavy weights, i think tabiti might be more talented but he's not in the mix yet
You don't know what your talking about
Flores was ranked outside the top 30, one week before the bellew fight was signed he was moved to no.17 :lol1:
As for beating a guy with one leg...
what do you even say to that?
ur one of those guys, what about bellew winning most of the first 6 rounds whats the excuse there? people give him no credit
you had the fight 8-4 for RG?.....jesus christ , you don't have the right to criticize other's scorecards with that BS, sorry!
he also had the nerve to claim me saying jacobs won was trolling to
I don't get brainwashed by Lampley or hbo, I never had him in my top 10 p4p and never believed he was the best, he's rudimentary and not a skilled boxer nothing changed for me, thought he lost and was outboxed clearly by cuadras too
Gonzalez lost clearly and was knocked down, no controversy there, in fact the controversy was over his fights with cuadras and estrada where he lost those
nothing changed i never had roman gonzalez in my top 5 or top 10, the best boxers in the sport in no particular order, are rigondeaux, ward, kovalev, Lara right now
Then you havent watched the fights. A number of those scoring the bout other than the judges, I'd say the majority but I havent looked it up properly, had Gonzalez winning and some had him winning by a comfortable points margin.
I had it 8-4, a 3 point margin taking in the KD.
You should watch the fight.
I have watched the fight and it seems like your biased here, I had it to the wangek by 3 thought he landed the harder shots and bullied roman in there, how did you score the cuadras fight, i guess this loss is hard to take for the fanboys, nothing changed hes a good fighter just not top 10 p4p for me, and he was never the best
soul_survivor clearly was aboard the hype train. Roman Gonzalez clearly lost last night. I was expecting the Thai to get screwed out. Last nights judging was refreshing after so many bad/controversial decisions.
he's a terrible poster, there was no controversy with the gonzalez fight he was fairly beaten
115-112 Jacobs
Robbery in my book, GGG looked very basic and ordinary
I thought so to, apparently there's a guy here called soul s who thinks gonzalez and golovkin won by wide scorecards i'd say he's probably a troll
choncholikito has never ever been in or around my top 1) p4p list,,,
he only fought bums he wasnt fighting the top guys in his lcass
This even now he's never fought an elite opponent even after being beaten imagine what rigondeaux would do to him, caudras and estrada both beat him also and they are mexican schooled boxers not skilled technicians either, i feel sorry for those brainwashed by hbo
Aww, Soul Survivor is on the red K train for anyone that scored the fight for Jacobs.
What a sad individual.
Yes that guy horrible poster and probably a troll
I don't think the style was the problem, Salido not making weight and then punching him in the balls 80+ times was :lol1:
He chased the Salido rematch, but Salido didn't want it. Gamboa (even though faded) and Garcia are more possible.
but judges don't count low blows i honestly think it was style thing agree with this last sentence
Absolutely crazy, this is gonna get loma a lot of hater's, so is salido now number 1 p4p? people need to realize this is all controlled by the media, they want you to think this, he's a top fighter but hasn't proved he's p4p 1 and in fact has lost to a salido who has over 10 losses
Yea, I still study his footwork from old fights where he's gone as soon as a guy tries to charge in, how he'd turn so sharp and nail them over the shoulder, etc. He's gotten too comfortable with winning maybe and got a little lax. He's still got those elite skills because he shows flashes of them, he's just not showing as much respect for his opponents as he used to.
I don't think he's like Gamboa where you can see him slipping a little in technique and athleticism, IMO.
if you want to study footwork please don't study gonzalez, did you get this from jim lampley lol when he mentioned lee wylie youtube video?
Mikey is right, when he dominated salido he got very little credit, when lomachenko loses and is dominated by salido, a lot of fans act like it didn't happen, why is loma p4p and mikey isn't because it's who they want to be p4p, like roman gonzalez manufactured,
Salido still has the style to beat lomachenko again just like he did the first time