Daily reminder that Floyd beat Pac and is rightfully TBE :lol1:
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Floyd said his hands hurt. I didn’t make that up.
He beat Cotto when Manny ducked Floyd to get fake stitches from his promoter’s son in law. You like to avoid discussing that.
He beat Shane when you called for them to fight. Once he beat Shane, you lied that you didn’t call for them to fight. Luckily iron Dan found the thread you created.
Manny didn’t fight PWill or Margs at ww either.
Floyd beat Manny at ww, which is all that matters.
Now go ahead and make an excuse for why Manny lost.
Nonsense. Floyd blatantly ducked Pacquiao, hiding behind absurd demands like extra drug testing when NSAC was already the official testing authority. Pacquiao even sued Floyd for defamation—because Floyd had zero evidence to back up his accusations. The truth is simple: Floyd was scared. The fight footage tells the whole story—a bigger man fighting timidly, running and clinching against a smaller opponent. Even his own father called him out to his face on live TV. The bout was a disgrace: Floyd abused his reach just to grab and smother Pacquiao, the referee ignored the dirty tactics, and the judges crowned the ultimate “running man.” The world saw the robbery.
Yes TBud was cuked by being in a less buff era
In a better era TBud could become top 15 all time
I have Floyd slotted at top 10 all time and manny #14
My tiers of ABILITY
Floyd, Sugar Leonard > Roy, TBud > Bernard, Andre > manny > Timmeh
This is pure nonsense. Mayweather and Crawford don’t deserve to be mentioned in the same breath as Pacquiao. Floyd is a blatant cherry-picker, and Crawford’s résumé is laughably thin—two elite wins and suddenly he’s a GOAT? Give me a break.
Being undefeated means nothing—there are plenty of undefeated boxers. Being undisputed? Same story. Those achievements alone don’t make you special.
An 8-division world champion, Fighter of the Century, and multiple lineal champion—that is the real standard. That is what a true pound-for-pound king looks like. That is the Greatest of All Time.
Yeah, but would YOU follow your idol and avoid RANDOM BLOOD TESTS ?
Go on and duck this AGAIN, coward
The runner-and-hugger is the coward. He was the one fighting scared of a smaller Pacquiao. Honestly, responding to your post feels pointless, as the level of discussion is extremely immature. This will be the last time I reply to you.
To be clear, NO—there is no obligation to submit to a random drug test demanded by Floyd, because the Nevada State Athletic Commission (NSAC) is the authorized body responsible for conducting drug testing. Floyd, your idol, is just scared from Day 1 to fight night until now.
Manny Pacquiao sued Floyd Mayweather Jr. in a 2009 defamation lawsuit after Mayweather and his team implied Pacquiao used performance-enhancing drugs (PEDs). The case was settled in 2012, with the Mayweathers releasing a statement denying any intent to accuse Pacquiao and stating they had no evidence of PED use, and Pacquiao dropping the suit.
Sorry, but every time I read Big Dunn’s posts, it sounds like Floyd Mayweather Sr. talking.
For Floyd fans like Big Dunn, Floyd is their God... So when their idol raped a cow, they will give justified reasons why their idol raped the cow. :p:cool:
I don't know why people can't accept it.
Johnny Knoxville got KTFO by butterbean for a skit in jackass.
Some people are just like that, they don't have a normal "fear level", it's the same with like extreme sports athletes etc.
The Mike Tyson fight was a real fight (just one vs a 58 year old)
Jake isn't a "Disney kid", he's been training boxing with the highest level of coaching for 6 years now, he's got some guts, he's got a bit of athleticism about him.
Especially in the heavyweight division we have fat puddings like Dave Allen who can't even show up to a fight in shape.
I agree—Jake Paul showed courage by fighting a much bigger opponent. He’s willing to challenge himself, unlike some undefeated boxers who consistently choose smaller opponents, relying on their reach advantage and then proclaiming themselves the GOAT. Without that reach advantage, they’re simply average fighters with average skills.
By contrast, the Fighter of the Century, Manny Pacquiao, repeatedly faced larger opponents with longer reach and dismantled them in their prime. That is true greatness.
Naw. Guys like you are hurt that Manny just came for the check. Instead of criticizing him for that, you just blame Floyd because you don’t like him.
Where was Manny’s aggressiveness and punching in bunches?
You're a dishonest person, Pacquiao came to fight, pushed the fight while Floyd run and hugs. :D
Camera full fight recording videos can’t show Floyd beat PAC, it’s the other way around. His corner was panicking, Sr shouted at Floyd, you’re losing man.. you fight like you’re scared man.. floyd in survival mode running hugging holding avoiding toe to toe sweet science or else get knocked out. Yeah, he miraculously won that fight. No surprises at all, his judges repeatedly saved his fake 0 :D :D
Bob Arum was found boasting about how he blocked Crawford from fighting Pacquiao. If you say I am a hater then look it up.
Even Freddie Roach said the exact same thing. What are you a hermit or something? Where have you’ve been? This is common knowledge among boxing fans.
You are behaving like you have been living under a rock for the past seven years or so.
Bob Arum himself admitted he killed the Pacquiao vs. Crawford fight—there’s video proof of it. Stop being dishonest.
Freddie Roach didn’t like the idea of Pacquiao fighting Barrera, yet Pacquiao still beat Barrera. A coach gives advice, but the fighter makes the decisions and does the fighting.
:haha:even manny is disappointed in how dumb his fanbase reasoning is
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Floyd fought Pac like a roadrunner—running and hugging all night. Even his dad said he was fighting scared, yet his fans were proud of it. He knows his fanbase will swallow anything he serves them, no matter how ignorant it sounds.
Well did Bud Crawford lie? What he said was true. He would have fucked Pac up back then and I am fan of Pacquiao. It was the reason why Manny ducked him to fight Jeff Horn instead.
You claim to be a fan, but you clearly know nothing about your fighter.
Most Pac-haters are clueless, ignorant, and dishonest.
Fyi that was Pacquiao's last fight under Top Rank.
Arum orchestrated the Pacquiao–Horn fight to cheat Manny on the judges’ cards in Australia and then line Horn up as an easy belt for his new cashcow named Terrence Crawford. It was crawford that is protected against Pacquaio
Manny turned the offers down. You can justify it if you want . Just shows how biased you are.
You’d never give another boxer cover if he turned down deals against a guy you like. Pathetic.
Manny didn’t come to fight. He came to get a check. But you clowns just can’t say that because you spent years sucking him off praying he’d be the one to beat Floyd.
Way lesser men, even Conor, fought with more honor and bravery against Floyd than Manny did.
Pacquiao challenged Floyd, only for the negotiations to turn into pure drama, driven by a self-proclaimed GOAT making absurd demands. He played the tough guy, then spent fight night running and hugging, and his fans like you are so proud of it. :cool:
"Ridiculous" demands :lol1: !!!!!
I'll ask you a question no Pac Boi seems to want to answer -
Would YOU have run away from RANDOM BLOOD test
(if yes, why)
I don't expect an answer......
because there's already Nevada State Athletic Commission (NSAC) doing the drug testing, never heard of it? :D
Answer this?
Why would Floyd demand extra testing if all he planned to do in the ring is run and hug??
Huh? Manny turned down the $40 mil offer to instead fight JMM again for $28 mil as the a side.
How do you know this yet post Floyd waited to fight him until he got ktfo.
You mean Manny got unexpectedly ktfo in a fight he took to duck Floyd yet again.
Unless you’re implying Floyd knew JMM was going to destroy Manny.
Nonsense. It was Floyd throwing ridiculous demands like a bitch. Anyway, that fight turned into a Tom and Jerry chase, where the bigger guy with the longer reach kept running in circles from a smaller, injured opponent. And that bigger guy spent the whole fight hugging nonstop. And his fans are proud of it :D
TBud is VERSATILE and would box intelligently against manny who's forte is brawling
the southpaw stance would cost manny
closed stance bout opens up lanes for TBud's 74" reach power jab
manny gets picked apart, struggling to bypass it, and would lunge in out of desperation
This is where TBud southpaw hook and uppers puts manny to snooze
T has ONE PUNCH KO POWER at 147 manny left that behind at 140
That will never happen. Thurman thought the same thing, and we all saw how that turned out. If Pacquiao vs. Crawford ever happens, it would just be another Tom and Jerry–style chase all over again.
Now you’re reaching a conclusion that you can’t prove.
Prove what?
The incident your boy caught receiving an intravenous drip (saline) significantly more than that limit was reported by VADA(Voluntary Anti-Doping Association).
Your boy Floyd accused a legendary boxer of using PEDs, yet that boxer never failed a single drug test up to this date.
Meanwhile, Floyd was the one caught receiving over the limit IV drip (saline), which is widely known as a masking agent used to conceal PED use.
Body language. WTF? Turning down deals is more an indication of fear than body language.
All respect to your opinion but using body language instead of actions doesn’t seem too valid.
Now if you’re a body language expert, than your opinion carries some weight.
However, when it comes to Floyd almost everyone that doesn’t like him ( not saying you don’t) finds something he does that indicates fear. Yet he fights them and wins.
Ridiculous demands like additional drug-testing insisted by your boy killed the megafight when they are both in their primes. Nevada has their own drug-testing method back then.
Meanwhile, your boy was caught receiving an intravenous drip (saline) significantly more than that limit, saline has been used as a "masking agent" to help hide the use of performance-enhancing drugs (PEDs).
TBud beat greater Mexican than any on manny's record
manny got CLAPPED by a 39 year old JUAN even at a weight that favored manny:rofl:
ANY manny gets mopped by a cerebral right hand counterpunching rangy boxer with very good defense
Did you forget? Pacquiao is the only 8-division world champion in history. Pacquiao made Floyd look like a runner and a hugger for the entire 12 rounds. Crawford won’t even fight Thurman — the same Thurman that Pacquiao beat at 40 years old. Even Bob Arum admitted he blocked the Crawford vs. Pacquiao fight because he believed Manny would nail Crawford.
Manny Pacquiao is better than both Floyd and Crawford. The only debate left is which one of them ranks after Pacquiao.
Crawford has said he doesn’t have Pacquiao in his list of greatest boxers. Says he’s overrated and insinuates he cheated. People say he’s hating but does he have a point?
Main problems with Pacquiao’s career:
1. Multiple catchweight fights
2. Biggest name win (Oscar) was severely weight-drained
3. Arguably lost to Marquez all 4 times and got 3 gifts
4. Refused blood-testing demands during years of his prime
5. Never undisputed
6. Lost to a school teacher
As for the 8-division thing:
1. There was no title on the line vs Barrera. Barrera wasn’t lineal. Pac was awarded the Ring belt afterwards.
2. Also no belt on the line vs Hatton at 140, it was for the Ring title. The Ring is just a magazine. And many say Hatton also wasn’t lineal because he moved up to 147 and lost.
3. Fought Margarito for the 154 belt at 150 catchweight
Again the Ring is a magazine they don’t own lineal and they are not an official sanctioning body.
So more like 5 divisions.
Is Crawford right about Pacquiao being overrated?
You fools don’t see it. Pacquiao is a boxing icon — the only 8-division world champion, admired across all sports. He proves skills make fights, taking on bigger, longer opponents while being the smaller man — and still the aggressor. Imagine that: the undersized guy pushing the fight. Floyd fans cry PEDs, yet Pacquiao never failed a drug test. He fought outside his country, against biased commentators, judges, refs, and even a snake promoter. At 46, he’s still beating prime young champs, and even at 75%, he’s a problem. Fight fans gave Floyd the chance to surpass Pacquiao, but instead he showcased his running, hugging, and low-blows, even with the size advantage. Floyd is great, no doubt — but some of his fans? Straight-up crackheads.
idiotic wishful thinking
TBud is nowhere near Floyd's defensive mastery
Floyd is the goat defense 11/10 on the scale
TBud has a good 7/10 defense
Bivol defense is 8.5/10 or 8/10
No. Crawford is better than Floyd
I saw Pacquiao visit Crawford in the locker room once, and Crawford, while being polite, seemed to have a cold and distrustful disposition towards Pacquiao.
Crawford admits Pacquiao is a legend, but credits much of his success to his avoidance of random blood testing. Says he’s not on his list of greatest boxers.
Yet, Crawford praises RJJ as his favorite despite the fact that RJJ actually popped dirty.
Does Crawford have something in particular against Pacman? Seems everytime Pacquiao’s name is mentioned, Crawford’s demeanor changes.
Jealousy is a cancer..
Putting skills to one side...what really stands out about Crawford is the amount of self-belief he has in himself. It's scary. We've heard boxers over the years say they're going to win but there's always a small element of FEAR in their voice. However, Crawford has none and GENUINELY believes with his soul that he'll win and you can tell in the way he speaks and carries himself. In fact, in this regard, he might just be the best boxer doing this right now.
It will be interesting to see how the fight plays out but I wouldn't be surprised if he managed to pull off the upset like Buster Douglas who promised he'd win for his deceased mother.
Don’t get your hopes up too much—this could turn out like a Tom & Jerry chase or the Pacquiao vs. Mayweather fight, with Bud taking the Jerry role, run and hugs like Floyd Mayweather did.
That’s why I don’t equate greatness with boxers having size and reach advantages, especially when they resort to running tactics in the ring. True greatness is shown by fighters who, despite being undersized and out-reached, take control, dictate the pace, and push the fight forward.
someone is inattentive to details good thing you aren't a fighter
Floyd always rehydrated only several pounds and was outweighed the majority of the time
"little" manny was even bigger by 2 pounds the night Floyd mopped him
as for TBud yes weight bully at 135 140
147 and onwards idk
Mentioning Pacquiao might be a bit off-topic, but I’m honestly confused. Most Floyd fans keep saying he “dismantled,” “mopped,” or “outclassed” Pacquiao — yet the fight footage is all over social media showing Pacquiao landing shots no other boxer ever did. Floyd kept clinching excessively and moved around the ring like a scared man — just like his own dad said.
Floyd fans need to drop that false narrative because the fight footage tells a completely different story — one that makes Floyd look like a joke. If they really believe their own claims, they should start by getting those fight videos taken down, or else they’re just making themselves look ridiculous.
and then you woke up when Floyd 10-2’d manny
The Pacquiao–Mayweather fight? More like the Joke of the Century. Imagine the bigger guy fighting scared against a smaller fighter from the Philippines—too much clinching, low blows, and constant running like a Tom & Jerry skit… yet Floyd’s fans still brag about that performance?
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Pacquiao is an 8-division world champion—the only man in history to hold that distinction. Duran is a legend, but his accomplishments don’t surpass Pacquiao’s. The lineal titles, the jump across weight classes, the battles where Pacquiao was undersized and underweight—yet still winning. A small fighter overcoming bigger opponents with reach and power, and even defeating young, prime fighters well into his 40s. That level of greatness is unmatched.
Even if Crawford beats Canelo, that doesn’t make him great. He’s linked to a notorious PED mastermind, and there’s a strong case he’s using something—he needs to be tested.