Just from the way Mosley touched Mayweather's gloves at the end of round 6, looks like it's over for mosley.
Mayweahter only going to get stronger now and mosley is losing the ability to keep up.
People who know me will know that I am no Pac fan and I got red k'd to bits a few months ago by pac fans, but while it is true what you say, it should be across the board. Why did Floyd only want blood testing when he realized Pacquiao was a threat, he didn't even want it when he camer back from retirement which would have looked more plausible.
Sounds like he saw Pacquiao destroy people like Cotto and thought "is this guy really that good?".
Honestly, I don't even think it's about cheating. Floyd looks good by "cleaning up the sport" and he can make pacquaio look bad. I don't think Floyd is scared to fight a pacquaio who doesn't submit to USADA testing, he just knows it's smarter to fight the one who is subjected to that testing for several reasons. 1 He gets credit for cleaning up the sport, 2 it's a negotiating tactic, and 3 if it actually cleans up the sport that is certainly something mayweather is for. But the first 2 more importantly.
Say what you want about him and make every excuse but what if he dominated Pac? That means he wouldve retired for 2 years in his prime and came straight back to beat the top 3 rated fighters in the game. Everyone had Pac, Shane, and JMM rated as the top 3P4P in the game so if Floyd dominated Pac and only loses like a total of 3 rounds against the top 3 guys in boxing then you have to call him easily one of the greatest and give the man his props. Thats impressive, espically considering those 2 years are maybe the best prime years for a fighter
You know, I don't consider myself a Floyd hater but before the Shane Mosley fight I thought Floyd genuinely thought he was the greatest boxer ever but that money mattered more than anything else so in my opinion he hadn't done enough outside of his home training to prove it to the outside world. If you don't prove it, it may as well not be true, because who knows what else other people know but haven't proved?
Anyway, after the Shane fight I think he's given us enough of a bridge. Floyd mayweather is without a doubt the p4p king. I dont' think he's going to have any problem with Pacquaio, plus pacquiao is the smaller man. From what I hear and read, I think Paul Williams might be a real test. But Floyd is the best boxer of this decade for sure.
Yes, I a a woman. It was not a borrowed quote, but that would not make it any less true if it were.
If Mayweather Sr. did not care, he would not feel the need to do anything, with the exception of awaiting karma to play her role. He is actively involved because he has hurt feelings, which is a testament to him caring. DUH.
Maybe you have not seen 24/7 or read any of Sr.'s interviews, but he always speaks of obstacles preventing a relationship with his son that otherwise would be.
I didn't say Mayweather sr doesn't care, I said mayweather sr doesn't care about what your original post states. You said people shuold realize tryign to cause someone else's downfall causes ur own, I'm saying mayweather sr doesn't care about that. He knows that, but it's more worth it for him to see his son fail. Floyd is Roger's boxer...that's what he is. Mayweather wants to see him fail and it makes logical sense.
And your statement is borrowed, whether you wanted use quotes or admit it or not. You are not the first person to make such and claim, and I'd bet my entire bankroll you heard it before it came out of your mouth.
I swear he talks as if he's just come out of the club pissed as..
imo, he looks, talks, and oftens acts like an old drunk. Oh wait, until we see glimpses of him training Floyd. Then looks and possibly acts like the world's greatest boxing trainer. Still sounds the same though...
and honestly it doesnt matter what you know... you can have the solution to beating floyd... but when your in the ring... in the spotlight... and floyds across from you.. with his twitching reflexes, just waiting for you to do ANYTHING... and your in the moment... all those little game plans and solutions and ideas.. yeah there all pretty much out of mind... things are happening so quickly... once you actually get in the ring, its a whole different story... and you start realizing why no one can beat this guy...
everyone has a plan, til you get punched in the face
I agree...Everyone has a plan til they get hit. but that's completely untrue nowadays. People can stick to their plan when they get hit...The reason floyd will keep winnign is because everyone has a plan until they CAN'T hit floyd. Floyd's power scares none of his recent opponents and probably none of his future opponents.
As if you guys couldn't tell, I don't think much of Floyd Jr's judgement or personality. I certainly think he deserves the number 1lb for lb fighter spot though.
I have much greater respect for Mayweather Sr, from what I know, and it's hard to not root against Floyd Jr. That doesn't mean I let it cloud my judgement though, my money has been on floyd for the last 5 of his fights and to me...he truly is "money" mayweather. But I DO think he's a jackass.
People don't realize the more you hate someone and try to see them destroyed/defeated, the more you set that very occurrence in motion in your own life.
Wow, Floyd's dad selling out his son and you're mad at Oscar?
I don't know. Seems to me like Senior is becoming more and more devious. I wouldn't be surprised if he'd sell his own soul to see his son defeated. Envy is a mother!
LoL, LoL, LoL
Beauty, you are female? I agree that the more you hate someone and try to see them destroye dand defeated, the more you set that very occurrence in motion in your own life...I agree. But so what? It also sets the intended deed in motion. Most people are spiteful because they get more joy from seeing other suffer, than they do from the happiness they could have provided themselves with that effort. So in essence, your borrowed quote/knowledge is completely inapplicable... What you say is true, but why does it even matter? Mayweather Sr certainly doesn't care, he just wants to see his ungrateful son, who proclaimed that Roger is the best trainer in the world, fail. Just because smoeone is your blood, doesn't mean everything. All the most child abused kids in the world were abused by their own blood.
What has mayweather done for his father? Floyd has done nothing but support everything that Mayweather senior hates...in Sr's eyes Floyd betrayed him and I can't disagree. Mayweather senior is his own man and a man of pride, he doesn't need his son just because he's his son...
LoL @ so much in this thread, just LoL.
Amazing.
How funny Oscar called Sr. to discuss Floyd's "weaknesses". Sr. must really be bitter. OMG.:bigeyes:
People don't realize the more you hate someone and try to see them destroyed/defeated, the more you set that very occurrence in motion in your own life.
I apologize if I misinterpreted what you were saying, but I was under the impression that becasue of those two quotes, you're saying what MAyweather Sr is doing is "not right" or doesn't make sense, especially because "People don't realize the more you hate someone and try to see them destroyed/defeated, the more you set that very occurrence in motion in your own life."
When I kept saying you were using borrowed knowledge, my point was that what you said is in fact TRUE, almost unequivacably but it is irrelevant. To stretch the analogy to the maximum, it's like me saying "Floyd wins this fight because 1+1=2". Ok, 1+1=2 but what does that matter?
Does it not make sense that BECAUSE Floyd is Sr's own blood and BECAUSE Sr trained him originally that Sr would want the credit for Floyd's success? If Floyd proclaims that Roger is the best trainer and NOT Sr, and then goes out of his way to say Sr has a place in Mayweather's life as his father...that Floyd is giving a big middle finger to the man that first taught him how to box? You think Sr wants to be Floyd's dad because of blood?
Let me let you in on a secret, Sr thinks he's the best trainer in the world and he'd like to prove it. By devising a strategy to beat the strategy of the trainer who your son proclaism as the best trainer...(If you are still following me, this means Sr should try to devise a strategy to defeat Roger's strategy...which reduces to Sr should find a way to help hatton beat Floyd)...that's how Sr can take one step closer to proving he's the best trainer.
If after Sr trains several guys to beat the living crap out of floyd in the Ring, Sr proclaims "my son may not be the best fighter, but he's still my son and he has a place in my life", then Sr will have done what floyd has done to Sr.
Can you see why it makes sense that Sr is the way he is towards his son? I'm not saying Floyd's at fault either, but the situation is not really "amazing", it's logical. What would be amazing is if Sr and Floyd had a good father and son relationship given their situations.
I also employ your quote in my daily life because I am a balanced man. But no truly balanced man acheives the success that floyd and Sr have. They have given their lives to boxing so it makes sense that they would continue to do so and act accordingly.
Firstly, you are not informing me of anything new. It's all water under the bridge and certainly, information that I have been privy too for a long time, my friend.
Secondly, I would hope the "If you're still following me" was not an attempt at being condescending. It was unnecessary.
Lastly, I do believe you have a valid point. Never said you did not. What I have stated and will continue to state is that regardless of what is driving someone's negative behavior, it's still sewing negatively and will guarantee destruction in their own lives.
You may not feel it's relevant because you believe Sr. is not viewing it as such, but it is relevant. The best thing Sr. could do is allow the cards to fall where they may. Strategizing to upset your son for vengeance sake will not guarantee the upset, but will certainly guarantee your regret.
Ok, the only place we disagree is in the bottom of your post. I think strategizing to upset your son is a great way for Sr to get what he wants. If he exposes a big hole in Floyd's game and that piece of information leads to the loss of Floyd's 0...then mission accomplished. I think that would really testify to the greatness of Sr as a trainer.
You think you are making valid points because you bring up that fact that you believe Sr. does not care about setting negative things in motion in his life does not negate the fact that that is exactly what will happen.
If the best you can do is proclaim my statement is borrowed to justify it's validity, then just silence yourself. Regardless of whether he cares about that or not, it is still true. Regardless of whether the statement is borrowed, reworded, twisted and sprawled, it's still true.
What is your point exactly? That the statement's truth is irrelevant because Mayweather does not care about karma in his own life? You are certain of this how? Based on the fact that what is fueling his behavior is hurt and disappointment? That is what makes you confident? Oh. But, the statement is still truthful. Regardless of that.
Oh, and that was NOT my original post.
This was;
"Amazing.
How funny Oscar called Sr. to discuss Floyd's "weaknesses". Sr. must really be bitter. OMG."
Anyway, you are not owning anyone this way. My opinion remains the same and the statement, irrelevant or not (Which is totally relevant, by the way.), is still valid.
I was never trying to own anyone, I was merely pointing that your post was either logically flawed or a flame.
Your statement insinuates that if people "realized" this simple truth, then they wouldnt' do it. You keep arguing that what you said is true...and tha'ts the funny thing...I"M ARGUING THAT TOO. My point is what you said is akin to a fortune cookie saying...what the forutne cookie says is TRUE NO MATTER WHAT, but it is neither applicable nor relevant in most cases. That is my point.
I apologize if me asking if you were a female made you think I was out to "own" you...I asked because of your avatar and name.