Yep, spending like there's no tomorrow and huge amounts of child support, plus bad business deals. Also probably why he didn't retire until he was damn near 50.
He didn't look too huge in that "Bitchscko brothers" interview. I'm sure he'll make it there fine.
You mean "Bitchko Sisters" and I think he said David Gay in that one too hahaha.
What do we need?Do we need more excting boxers or something?
What yall think.
ONE major title belt in each weight class, not five. The disbanding of most of these governing bodies that don't want a unified champion so they can "continue to extort these exorbitant fees" as Larry Merchant so eloquently put it.
Boxers willing to fight every major contender and the champion of their weight class, not just the opponents they think they have a better chance at beating or the guys that will give them a bigger payday. Basically boxers that don't duck anybody.
Put it back on national TV on weekends.
Attack the hispanic market.simple.
To all those who are hispanics,congratulations.We are responsible for being the worlds #1 boxing ppv buyers in the world.
Now,what would happen if mma got a complete overhaul of genuine hispanic fighters? Id pay for a Puerto rico/Mexican rivalry in the octogan.World wide spanish broadcasters? Hispanic beer sponsorships and promos? Weekly hispanic channel mma highlights?
All these factors come into play,and in my opinion i beleive thats the only way they would ever conquer boxing with ppvs,not that it would drive boxing off the map.If they can take control of the hispanic market and not forget the principle of mixing in other ethnics in fights then it might be a done deal.
Well, with Velasquez being UFC Heavyweight Champion and Bellator tournaments being shown on ESPN's Spanish channel Deportes, it sounds like a Hispanic influence has already happened to some extent.
please retire roy. I will actually get on my knees and beg you.
While you're down there, would you mind begging Holyfield to finally retire for good? I doubt he'll get a shot at David Haye or the Klitschkos, but if he does, he'll proabably get killed.
First dump the sanctioning bodies and make one untouchable ruling body that is beyond reproach. No more buying ratings by promoters. A fighter has to earn his ranking by fighting other contenders. Without the profitable and corupt sanctioning bodies, each with their own champions. The sport would sky rocket.
YES, or as Dirk Digger put it "Hello EXACTLY!"
I would add 2 things I have in mind without thinking muchthat haven't been mentionned :
- have instant replays to change bad calls by the ref etc.
- revise the way that fights are scored ; incorporate the possibility of scoring dominant rounds without KD 8/10 or 8.5/10. It would make for much more accurate decisions (it has been proven)
***Call the only world title just that like it used to be, the World title, no WBC or some bullshit like that
And how about having judges' shitty decisions overturned later on. Like Holmes/Spinks 2 where many thought that Holmes clearly won or Holyfield/Lewis 1.
I consider Mayweather's punching power to be solid, not great, but i do think that his accuracy and ability to land when your coming in and not expecting it would be able to rock if not drop Pacquiao at least once, and if he's hurt Mayweather will go in for the kill. discuss and please no trolling, or pointless nuthuging.
I think Floyd can, but I don't think he will. I say UD win for Floyd. I see it being close though, like one or two points. They'll probably be some slugest rounds though.
I was watching Sworn Enemies(countdown to Mayweather/Judah) and came accross this little quote from Zab Judah.
"I think the only reason this fight is made is because Mayweather saw an opportunity, he thought I was vulnerable, he sat there with his friends and watched my loss to Baldamir and said you know what I can beat him now. This is what Mayweather does, he goes in there and fights fighters when they're finished". - Zab Judah
Yeah, kind of like Sugar Ray Leonard did when he fought Duran the second time, Leonard has said he wanted to catch Duran between his weight fluctuating so he'd be weaker when he fought him again, or when he waited like 3 to 4 years to finally fight Marvin Hagler, when Hagler was getting ready to retire.
Oh, and Oscar, you embarrassed boxing with this months ring cover before this fight took place.
For what?
Him owning Ring magazine was already embarrassing. No way a promoter should own a company that gives title belts. Not TOO MUCH of a conflict of interest there.
This^^^ Where are all the people that said she would destroy Floyd?? No where to be found..
Nowhere to be found. Kind of like you guys are doing now. Gloating over this win and then gone once Holm receives her first MMA loss. Just like boxing fans during just about any other MMA event.
I asked before, surely somebody must know, especially the MMA guys.....
Did Holm just become one of the best female fighters EVER ?
Too early to tell. 10 MMA fights is like the equivalent of about 20 or so pro boxing fights. A typical career has about 35 to 40, maybe 45 fights. If they reach 50, it's really pushing it for them. Boxing is usually about 50-60, so it'll take a few more to decide her historical standing. As of currently though, yeah, she's the best women's bantamweight. The reason why Ronda was so hyped up was because she was about 3 or 4 wins away from cleaning out 135. I'd like to see Tate get a shot now, since her last fight made her #1 contender.
duh
ronda does judo.
of course holm would box her ears off.
but this was not boxing vs. mma
holm did karate/kickboxing before boxing. she has 4-5 yrs of mma exp.
ronda got her ass kicked.
not boxing beat mma. :dunce:
Exactly. Plus she didn't just use boxing to beat her. Holm also scored a takedown and got the KO with a head kick. Hence the mixed part of mixed martial arts. LMAO at boxing fan haters thinking this somehow discredits the entire sport. What about all the other boxers that came along and didn't succeed. Art Jimmerson, James Warring, Melton Bowen, James Toney? How quickly we forget.
Holm seems pretty cool from her interviews so now the UFC will be forced to market someone nice for once, not a big bragger.
As for Rousey, damn. So much for retiring undefeated for her.
I don't know about all that. FYI, I don't watch MMA. My point was always that there was no way in hell she could beat Mayweather. That was proven today.............
Oh hell yeah, that was stupid. Even people I know in person were saying she should start fighting men and I would say to them are you ****ing kidding me? Not only would she get hurt, but it's a lose-lose for the guy. Hell, they don't even let women compete with men in chess.
Pffft excuses (imo).
There was a few times holm was right in front of her.
All she had to do was shoot a td off of holm's jab.
Rousey imo doesn't have those tools because her trainers never showed her anything new.
On top of that she gassed halfway into the 1st.
I'm sorry but mma fighters have terrible gas tanks.
Only a few, lidell, hughes, fedor, machida, gsp etc had great stamina
And possibly Sakuraba too. Dude fought Royce Gracie for 6 15 minute rounds, about 90 minutes and beat him due to exhaustion. Injury too, but also exhaustion.
So, Holm has totally aced boxing AND mma, at the highest possible level ?
I know that no other woman has ever achieved that, but just wondering if there are other women who have excelled in multiple arts?
She must rank right up there in terms of women fighters period ?
Yep, I believe so. Michelle Waterson is a karate black belt, also doing fairly well so far in MMA. Was briefly atomweight champion in Invicta, which goes up to 105 and is now competing at strawweight (115 in MMA).
No one in mma will retire undefeated they can't cherry pick like Floyd or take a 2 yr hiatus like he did ..
Well not anymore they can't, not if they have a long enough career. A guy named Phillip Miller left at 15-0 after a career ending injury and Rickson Gracie retired at 11-0, but both were short careers and if you look at Rickson's MMA record, most of his opponents were not too experienced in MMA and had losing records, plus it was in the early days of the sport, when fighters were less well rounded.
Kind of funny how for years people thought boxing technique wasn't effective enough to use in MMA, with all the footwork, but in recent years, more fighters have started using it more in their actual fights, since throwing kicks can lead to sweeps and more single leg takedowns or put a fighter off balance at times, so even before this fight, boxing had been given more merit as an effective technique in MMA as well. Guys like GSP and the Diaz brothers used it plenty in their fights. This was probably because of the early MMA fights where boxers looked lost once they were taken down, like a turtle on its back. Then, when Maurice Smith beat Mark Coleman, Coleman decided to train kickboxing with smith and Smith learned wrestling from Coleman so fighters were no longer bound to just one style. At first, grapplers dominated strikers, then strikers learned how to avoid takedowns and keep fights standing and the sprawl and brawl style was born, which put fighters who were primarily strikers on an even plane. This is another point for the effectiveness of boxing as a martial art. I just wish Jessica Racokzy were as succcessful but, like Holm, got into MMA after retiring from boxing.
Ronda finally talking looks like
A photo posted by rondarousey (@rondarousey) on Nov 15, 2015 at 5:57pm PST
Didn't GSP also say that before his last fight? Wonder if it will be that long a hiatus. Probably close to a year, at least.
Pffft excuses (imo).
There was a few times holm was right in front of her.
All she had to do was shoot a td off of holm's jab.
Rousey imo doesn't have those tools because her trainers never showed her anything new.
On top of that she gassed halfway into the 1st.
I'm sorry but mma fighters have terrible gas tanks.
Only a few, lidell, hughes, fedor, machida, gsp etc had great stamina
What about Couture? Wasn't he known for his strong gas tank as well?
I could be completely wrong, don't know much about MMA..... but Rousey's game is on the ground right? It just seemed to be that Holm fought her fight, and Rousey couldn't get her game going.
Holm's footwork and timing looked to be right on point. She established the distance well and got Ronda walking onto some nice stuff.
I know where Holm got her footwork/timing and also where she got a lot of her punching technique.
Pretty much yeah. She's a judoka, a judo black belt and won a bronze medal in judo in the Olympics.
:rofl: stfu gracie retired undefeated. He lost only after he came out of retirement.
& that he went undefeated in the early ufc days vs dudes that outweighed him by like 100 lbs (see gracie vs kimo)
True about Royce. And his brother Rickson retired at 11-0. So if short lived, it can happen. Hell, Herschel Walker is 2-0 in MMA and Ray Mercer and Dave Batista 1-0 haha.