Offer evidence that Manny needs to comply with the Floyd commission.
Offer evidence that Manny doesn't take PED's?
He's never been random tested since he's moved up to welterweight, correct?
Has Floyd? Oh wait...
Pacquiao, Martinez, or retire.
Just had to add the fact that your Signature is bull****. None of the fighters you mentioned below are of the same stages in their careers, and a triangle theory is between 3 fighters, hence why its called a triangle.
a little thing called metabolism........it slows down when you get older....especially in your 30s.
They were... hence why he came up to 147... they aren't now, they're against guys who are far larger than he is... Martinez.. Canelo.. I've even heard andre ward mentioned.. it's laughable.
Here comes 19 pages. Mayweather has fought at 154lbs twice in his career
He has... but what difference does that make to him not being a natural 154lber.. what if he moved up to 180 and fought the guys there, would it make him okay to naturally fight at 180?
how is he a natural 140lber if he couldn't even bring himself down to compete at 144 back in 2009?? mayweather is a natural welterweight not junior welterweight...
Wow... this is like talking to a brick wall..
Because he walks around at around 150... he had 6 weeks to train? and couldnt sweat of all the muscle he had on his SMALL body frame in that period...
So Canelo is a natural 175lber.. fighting at 154.. smashing up little guys?
The next time you're watching a weigh in.. look at the two fighters, and tell me if they look NATURALLY the same...
Cotto and Mosley are natural welterweights.. Mayweather, is not.
And that's perfectly understandable, tbh...
CW's are crap when you give yourself the advantage...
When you're negotiating a fight.. and to make a fight fair... Floyd being a 147 fighter... Canelo 154...
How is a catchweight of 152.. detrimental to canelo and an advantage to Floyd..
Pacquiao was fighting at the weight he was comfortable at and bringing fighters to his weight... Pacquiao wasn't putting himself out?
All that matters to the manny fans/klit lovers/e race baiters/argentina mafia/triple g set/wimbledon boxing club/NSB La raza/floyd haters is that floyd criticiized manny for CW's and then signed for a CW against Canelo after fighting at 154 twice. They love to run floyd's hypocricy in his and his fans faces.
Your post is not something they concern themselves with because they wouldhave to give foyd credit, which is something they wont do. they have more fun criticizing his hypocricy.
Defintely, with failure to see Floyd also puts himself at a disavantage making 152lbs.
if he can't even make a 144lb catchweight then he's not a natural 140lber anymore...i think that'd be obvious?
I don't think you are quite understanding the difference between body structure... and body weight.
still doesn't change thte fact that he couldn't bring himself down to 144lbs....still doesn't change the fact that he hasn't fought at junior welterweight in how many years? mayweather has grown into the welterweight division...that's all there is too it.
Why did he suddenly start growing in his mid 20's?
he fights there because its higher money..
how come he wasn't able to make the 144lb catchweight against marquez if he's a natural 140lber like you claim?
Because he's been fighting at 147 the past how many years...
:lol1::lol1::lol1: thread dismantled on first page ... but no doubt it will keep going for 30 more
The thread was about Mayweather moving to 152...
Have another chocolate cookie.
a little thing called metabolism........it slows down when you get older....especially in your 30s.
Metabolism includes muscle and fat... not natural body frame... sigh.
Honestly, Mayweather brought this criticism on himself. He shouldn't have made all those claims about PAC and his catchweights and how he sees fighters as undefeated because of it, blah, blah...
Either way, come Sept. 14, I'm about see some good ass fights. :killyou: bang, bang!
Put pacquiao gave himself an advantage every time...
Doesn't Floyd also give himself a disadvantage fighting at 152.. or am I wrong?
so he's not a natural 140lber ...
So if he makes 160.. and cant make 147 again in 6 weeks, hes not a natural 140lber? his body frame is that of a 140lber fighter... he makes 147, because it's where the money is... I think that'd be obvious?
Sharpen my boxing knowledge up? You're trying so hard to deflect attention from the main issue. Why does the fight night weight matter so much for Canelo, but not for Cotto? You're right, he wasn't going to get ODLH to agree to a CW.
So Floyd should get every advantage going in, that's what you're saying? If he's as great as he claims to be, he should be able to dominate in spite of the obstacles, which he has always done. Why the sudden lack of confidence now?
FYI Mayweather-Marquez was postponed from June to September. More than 6-7 weeks.
Due to a Floyd Mayweather injury.. and what does this mean? yayz inactivity...
Because Cotto doesn't come in at 175lbs on fight night... that's why? no? yes?
What advantage does Floyd have at 152... Physically..
There's no lack of confidence... Floyd is going to chop him up.. easily..
Canelo isn't half the fighter Cotto was.
If a fighter is coming in at 175lbs on fight night... and someone is weighing 150.. it's not so much a fair contest is it?
Maybe the better thing would of been to sign a no rehydration clause... and they both could of fought at 154lbs... that'd make it fair.. right?
You're acting like everyone is a hater who's jumping Floyd's hypocracy and ignoring Floyd's great deed in just giving us this fight? :lol1: That doesn't make any sense. He's made this weight before, he's beaten world class opposition at it, he should have had a full weight limit. Even if he didn't say what he did about Pacquiao, Cotto, and the CW, he'd still be getting shit for doing this because it's a BITCH MOVE.
So if Canelo doesn't move up to 175-180 to fight Andre Ward... hes a *****?
Floyd's natural and strongest weight is at 140lb.. he's fighting at 152... regardless if he's fought before at that weight, each time he has he's put himself at a disadvantage... it really makes no difference if hes done it once or hundreds of times..
Maybe Alvarez is a ***** for not coming down to 147 and fighting Floyd?
well there is the winner of danny garcia vs matthysse next for floyd...will he go down to 140 to fight since you claim he is just a natural 140lber??
Garcia will move up, Floyd will stay at 147lbs.. he won't ruin his entire career at 36-37 by moving down to 140lb for one fight.. and then having no one else to fight worth talking about
So when he did for De La Hoya and Cotto, it was different. There's no way to spin it. Asking for 152 is a BITCH MOVE.
We're not talking about De La Hoya and Cotto... we're talking about Canelo.. who is much larger than both of them... 154lber is not floyds natural weight class, so isnt he at a disadvntage?
So, what do you want me to say? Mayweather and Canelo are both going to put themselves at a disadvantage.
No matter how you slice it, Mayweather and his camp had already harped about how a few pounds make a difference and that he was all about fighting the champs at their natural weight (154) and not draining them.
Face it, Mayweather and his team deserves all the shots fired their way for them remarks. :killyou:
Right.. of course it makes a difference...
But if you are both changing weights.. it makes a difference for both... hence cancelling it out... no?
Mayweather not being as strong at 152... 5lbs more than his usual...
and Canelo weighing 152... instead of 153...
Because he's been fighting at 147 the past how many years...
Is it then a ***** move for Marquez to request a 144lb against floyd.. but okay to fight at 147 against pac?
Why didn't Oscar need a CW? He outweighed Floyd on fight night, so did Cotto, they didn't need CW's. Floyd's natural weight is 140? :lol1: Couldn't even make 144 against JMM.
He's dominating his opponents, don't act like he's at a disadvantage. His strength is vastly underrated. Nobody bullies Floyd around.
It applys to everyone, to my knowledge a world champion at a weight hasn't asked a fellow title holder to a CW at the weight they both hold titles at.
Probably the worst thing I've ever read...
Why would Cotto and De La Hoya need CW's... Floyd moved up to 154lb to fight them... neither are the size of Alvarez... De La Hoya was a bigger name than Floyd and hence it made sense for the challenger to come up and try and take the crown..
Coudln't make 144 against Marquez? you do realise he'd been off for over 2 years... and couldn't make it in the 6-7 week period that he signed the fight... so that means he's not a natural 144lber?
Maybe it's Floyd isn't prepared to fight at a full 154.. when canelo isn't a natural 154lber himself.. he'll come in close to 175lbs on fight night... so that makes him it a ***** move..? that's close to canelo fighting a heavy weight.
Regardless if Floyd has fought there before, doesn't mean he's strongest... he's strongest at 140-147lbs.. fighting at 152 still puts himself at a disadvantage... but yeah, thats fine because it's Floyd.. isnt it?
Think you need to sharpen your boxing knowledge up.
Floyd is so many levels above Canelo, I'll never understood why he though he needed a CW.
He is... and he never did.. its about fairness really.. you take a shot at someone weighing close to 180lbs its not the same.
Cotto suddenly developed AIDS and actually had to use a walking stick when he fought Margarito...
Oh by the way he wasn't long past his 30th birthday when he fought Floyd at 154.
Mayweather schools him in every single weight.
The majority as in most STRAIGHT men. You obviously don't fit in there, at least Floyd pays his bitches well, which assistant from the show were you?
Yes because men find girls who look about 14-16 attractive... I think you're on the wrong website bro.