GGG stops Ward.
GGG couldnt stop Jacobs, Canelo, or Dervenchenko but he stops Ward? Hmm not so sure.
GGG struggles against fighters who in-fight (Canelo 2 and Dervenchenko). Yet GGG would stop the best inside fighter of the past 5-10 years.
Trumpers shine again. . .
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I think GGG struggled against Canelo's combo punching, and against Derevy's workrate. Those fights were still at mid-range or at distance.
Ward is a good tough fighter though. I wouldn't really consider him a great inside fighter in that sense, he was more of a very tough smart fighter who had no issue getting as dirty or physical as possible in there, grabbing, clinching etc.
GGG fought well in a phone booth fight vs Ouma. That's really the only guy who was comfortable enough, while it lasted, to sit in front of GGG and let the punches fly from both men.
Ward's stuff honestly was always borderline or even over the top against the rules though. If nothing like that went on, Ward still would have a tough style to do great against. He is smart and tough in there and hard to dominate.
The thing with Ward was always that he would turn it into a fight if the boxing match wasn't going his way, and that's probably what it would turn into if he and GGG fought. Just a mess really lol. May turn out like Froch-Ward though where Ward does enough to get a win. That wasn't an inside fight though.
Comparing Ouma to Ward
Yikes
Boxing fans are lousy druggies or too deep in PBC dick to tell left from right
Ward ducked GGG like the plague.
Hehe...sarcasm?
GGG would get mauled, badly, against Ward. That's why GGG and Abel called out Ward but then demanded a catchweight after Ward accepted XD XD XD
GGG looked ordinary against Jacobs, Canelo, and Dervenchenko. He was able to buzz them all but none of them were ever truly hurt.
Floyd would do a lot of clinching and it would be an ugly fight but I actually struggle to see how Floyd loses. He would be so, so, so, so much faster than Gennady.
For those that say GGG should've won the 1st Canelo fight the Floyd/GGG fight would look very similar except Canelo was trying to "be Mayweather". Floyd is actually Mayweather and he would demonstrate how to potshot, move, hold, lots of jabs/punches to the gut, etc.
Also, Floyd fought green Canelo at 152. GGG would have to make 152 also.
Floyd UD
Ward was an average inside fighter. He was an elite clincher, but clinching would only do so much when a monster like Gennady is rearranging your ribcage in a phone booth fight.
Why could Gennady rearrange the smaller Canelo or Dervenchenko ???
What
Why are people talking about Floyd and Pac so much ? That fight already happened 6 years ago.
Anyway, I cant help but wonder how history would be different if Pirog didnt hurt his back.
Pirog wouldve SMASHED GGG in my opinion but it would've been a great fight
nope it doesn't ruined pinoy lives.. pinoys accepted defeats unlike the other foreign races who's such a silly people that makes any excuses upon defeat.. even bias with their heroes even if they used IVs, peds and illegal substances.. marquez was on PEDs that night.. see his pimples partying in his body. he can't do shlt so he needed memo to get the win..
Lets not forget Pacs bacne. Dude looked lkke a teenager.
I was so happy when JMM took his soul. Then Floyd UD12...two of best days of my life.
Pac is a Duterte shill. Duterte wages "war on drugs" and legalizes MARTIAL LAW among citizens....then his own son is caught importing $200 million of crystal meth...and he gets released.
And Pac supports this man XD XD XD
gtfoh hope Pac fights Crawford. Crawford will bloody and savagely beat lil Poochiao
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The ONLY issue I have with writers reasoning is he places ALL the blame on Floyd.
Mosley is literally on record saying he wouldnt fight Floyd because he had a dentist appointment...that literally happened.
Some people dont like to hear this but Manny couldve taken the drug tests in 2009 and the fight wouldve happened. Hell Freddy Roach even suggested the 1st negotiations were Mannys fault.
But you can say Manny and Mosley were too late. Floyd has a weird record where collectively its very strong but theres no SINGLE weight class where he dominated
:lol1: so many haters are getting butthurt now. :lol1:
Pac not gonna get fair judging tho...the "PBC" way
GET 'EM MANNY. Bring back Ariza and those SHAKES and deliver ANOTHER CAR ACCIDENT XD XD XD :boxing:
Porter would give ANYONE a hard time, even when u know 100% u can beat him. He’s a nightmare.
Kell Brook didnt have a tough time. Was a competitive but clear fight
I think espns p4p is a travesty (always have) (I don't think Estrada should be there,& Taylor either,Usyk should be replaced too,but I have said for ages Spence is higher than Bud & Teo should be too, don't agree with Inoue at #2,& Jermell should be like #10
I still think this list is better than espns though
Yikes you're worse than the bloggers that made boxingscene p4p list
You sound butthurt more than anything. I dunno how a person bitches about a good fighter with a good resume looking poorly in their last fight and then cries about Fury, who hasn't fought in forever, not being on a goddamn p4p list and thinks he's making a case for someone else's bias.
Basically, **** your cry baby nonsense *****.
Fury > Spence
Really as simple as that
So p4p is a lifetime get out of fighting champs/elites pass?(because its been years since Buds faced anyone elite) at least Spence has recently when everyone wanted him to take a tune up including Bud.(Bud said he didn't want to fight him right away because he didn't want him making excuses) and Bud has been ducking Porter. So who cares what trouble Spence had
Bud cant hold a gun to people's heads and make them fight. Porter is the 1st PBC fighter in years to publicly express willingness to fight...and even then he didn't activate his mandatory status...shows he "really" wanted the fight. Still hoping Bud gets a real fight next..
Spence does NOT belong anywhere near #4. His last fight he looked very ordinary against a basic opponent. Teofimo has 2 good wins and is above Tyson Fury ?!??? And Fury ISN'T even on the list. But Fury is also Top Rank so makes sense he's not on PBC P4P LOL
Was it hard to type with Crawford's dick balls deep in your throat? You are delusional and a fangimp for sure. Crawford and his promoter only want faded former champs and bums. Dumbasses like you are why they keep cherry picking them. No need to fight anyone with a pulse or pay for good opponents when dipsheeits blame everyone but Crawford and Top Rank.
Dude has an avatar of JMM KOing Pac then writes #48...lmfaoooo...too bad you cant make a gif of Floyd doing anything because he was gifted JLC, Maidana 1, and Pac fights.
You joke
160 IS middleweight. It has been since 1909. Middleweight
I don't know how that's difficult for you.
155-160 is Middleweight - which is why Cotto could defend his title 155-160 (155, 157, 159).
Canelo won the MIDDLEWEIGHT title at 155 and offered Borat a fight at 155.
Dumb fucking clowns like yourself whined and clearly are still whining. I dont know why its difficult for you but Ca$hnelo styled on Borat
Kell was once a damn good fighter and styles do make fights.
I agree. Was pointing out that just because Spencer had a very hard fight with Porter doesn't mean every fighter has a hard fight with Porter. Spence is a good fighter but he's far from special (despite what fanboys or hype people say)
LOL.........I’d of preferred PAC’s chances with Crawford. Spence is a beast. This would of been good if pac was 10 years younger.
I read somewhere CrAwford wanted more money......why???? He should of JUMPED on the OPPORTUNITY to WHIP Pac. Even if it was winnner pays for dinner. These fooken primadonna’s.
Arum said Pac "priced himself out" reportedly requiring $20 million in regards to Crawford fight.
Spence is fairly ordinary and the fight will be very competitive because Manny is 42 years old. Regardless the scorecards will be WIDE in Erralda's favor because she has the PBC backing of Al Daddymon.
Really poor career choice for Manny but I expect he's being paid generously. I say poor career choice because Manny is in an almost no-win situation not because he is going to get hurt - he isn't going to get hurt lol. Manny isn't Lamont Peterson
The top welterweights of 10 years ago compared to now. There’s no doubt in my mind the old group was far better. That said, I think Spence could hang with a young Delahoya, Pac, Moseley, Trinidad & Mayweather.
I disagree. Spence could hardly beat Porter without low-blowing all night long and looked ordinary versus basic ass Danny Garcia
Im not saying he would whip Em all but he is very good. He will whip Pac in a ugly way.
Doubtful but we'll see. Nonetheless Spence cannot lose on the scorecards. Daddy Haymon will make sure of that
You're aware it's a limit, right? not a finish line?
155-160, if you wanna fight at 155, fine. Limit is 160. Hagler fought at 156, 157, 158.
You ****ing phaggots are a plague on the sport
So Canelo WON the belt at 155 which is MIDDLEWEIGHT. He tried defending the belt there and Borat (and his sissy fans like YOU) got upset.
You didnt have a problem when Borat wanted Rosado at 158, Ward at 164, or fought Rolls at 164. Little Trump bitch
I'd be more concerned with 17 months off or so if Wilder gets the WBC along with the lineal this time. You think Wilder has already blocked undisputed 3 times in the division.
1 Refused to fight Vlad at 33-0
2 Refused to fight AJ for 120 mil or 60/40 split
3. Just block undisputed b/t Fury and AJ
Roughly 7 years of waste in the heavyweight division.
Yeah BUT...BOMB SQUADDD
Priced himself out? Listen to what Kenny says and look at Trampler agreeing with that happening....How could he price himself out when they didn't even get to that stage? Kenny asked Arum for a ballpark of what they would offer and Arum told him they would not be making any offer at this time.....And then never contacted Team Porter again.
Arum reportedly said $1-2m and Shawn wanted $5-7m. Arum cried about how the money just isnt there.
If Porter wanted the fight he could've activated his mandatory for a price bid........
Pretty suspect picture you have there of Canelo man. Why would another man have that picture saved.
Also, I like how you posted Teddy Atlas in that one picture. He scored GGG-Canelo 2, 8-3-1 for GGG. So thanks for pointing him out
But I'm not upset about Ca$hnelo YOU are.
No hard feelings against Borat stans who give draw rounds out or score activity. The point of the picture is showing that all activity is NOT equal which is demonstrated by Canelo STYLING on Borats face...doesnt even reveal the body damage but Borat needed 9 months off for a reason.
I just don't get it put that card on FOX were more people can see it
What's the difference ? Those are casual fans and they dont buy PPV (hence why Wilder and Spence arent PPV names)
No. 160 is middleweight. You can theoretically fight for the title at a catchweight, but its widely considered a ***** move that the a-side usually stipulates to weaken the other fighter.
no issue for me if it's for a non-title fight to level the playing field. But a title fight should be fought at the proper limit. Otherwise those wins always have an asterisk.
Canelo fought above the 154 limit, so he fought as a middleweight. Golovkin should not have to fight at a catchweight to defend his middleweight titles. He can, but he doesnt have to. It's that simple.
Canelo fought at 155, 1 pound above JMW, and yall call it Middleweight.
Then tell Borats ass to make Middleweight (155-160) or sit down. And in the rematch Ca$hnelo sat that BOY DOWN.