Welterweight Ratings:
1 Ray Robinson
2 Ray Leonard
3 Mickey Walker
4 Thomas Hearns
5 Joe Walcott
6 Jose Napoles
7 Kid Gavilan
8 Emile Griffith
9 Ted “Kid” Lewis
10 Luis Rodriguez
Note: Floyd Mayweather’s career does not give him a top 10 spot. Luis Rodriguez, for example, had a better career than Floyd beating Emile Griffith, Benny Paret, Hurricane Carter, Curtis Cokes, Georgie Benton and Bennie Briscoe. I cannot in all honesty put Mayweather in the top 10 welterweights based on a career of hand picked opponents and having never unified a major title. Floyd avoided fights with Mosley, Margarito and Pacquiao when they meant something. He waited for these opponents to slow down and fade before considering facing them. Mayweather just does not have the competition to be considered a true all time great. I am not convinced that Floyd would beat any of the top 10 all time welterweights.
http://coxscorner.tripod.com/divisional_ratings.html
Cotto*, DLH* AND shot, Mosley shot, Clottey, Rios shot, Algieri, Lucas shot, Broner, Vargas, HORN, Margarito* AND shot......definitely the stuff that makes a great WW resume.
Yea. He has him as a Top 10 featherweight ATG. Floyd is nowhere. As he says “Mayweather just does not have the competition to be considered a true all time great.”
Damn ''10 featherweight ATG'', huh
To hear Pac fans tell it, so called experts claim Pac IS an ATG WW right now :lol1:
monte cox can suck a fat one. floyd is both of those things. without a doubt he's one of the best fighters of all time. top 25, let's say, without any fuss. none at all. he was fucking amazingly skilled and he beat everyone they put in front of him decisively. took 2 tries twice but the rematches left no doubt!
ATG with a bullet
You scrutinise pac s w w resume in fine detail? Have you did that to all the others in top ten.? You have an opinion on pac and feel it's informed? How s your knowledge on Srr?
I do that for all resumes. I do the same for Floyd too. Both are great boxers but their resumes at 147.....ehhhh
Lol bradley was never that good. Jmm was not a welterweight, and he lost the war against him. Cotto was weight drained. DLH was washed and weight drained. Clottey is a decent win. Thurman is a good win. Not top 10 WW.
You scrutinise pac s w w resume in fine detail? Have you did that to all the others in top ten.? You have an opinion on pac and feel it's informed? How s your knowledge on Srr?
I don't know I thought pac was guaranteed a spot. Best bradley x3, jmm, cotto, dlh, cThurman, clottey. That's not bad
Lol bradley was never that good. Jmm was not a welterweight, and he lost the war against him. Cotto was weight drained. DLH was washed and weight drained. Clottey is a decent win. Thurman is a good win. Not top 10 WW.
Pac and Floyd are obviously great fighters but it is hard to argue either of them being an all time top 10 welter.
I don't know I thought pac was guaranteed a spot. Best bradley x3, jmm, cotto, dlh, cThurman, clottey. That's not bad
- -Monte looking genius in 2012.
Son of Senior's boytoys swarming the internet defending their zer0 in tear stained bibs after he guided their soft kiddy hands into betting ALL Their $$$ on a guaranteed Knockdown with a guaranteed KnockOut by the 5th round. All the stuffy boxing experts insisted poor 0-1 Paul was completely outclassed, but all the King's horses and all the King's men will never ever be able to put together even a facsimile coherent Son of Senior again after not even close to bothering Paul much less knock him down and out. How many wont be able to pay the rent or child support now?
And what about his grown kids now being shamed by any their friends over this? And speaking of, whatever happened to his daughter charged with murder a couple years back? Looked like an open and shut case. Did he buy off the jurors?
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Does the historian ever mention the name Pac ????
Yea. He has him as a Top 10 featherweight ATG. Floyd is nowhere. As he says “Mayweather just does not have the competition to be considered a true all time great.”
Yeah but dude he's a legit historian. You a nobody.
You don't think that he did his research on Floyd ducking Manny and Shane and came to the correct conclusion.
He couldn’t of because the article was written in 2012. He also, as I and others point out, is incorrect about Unifying.
I have no issue with his individual opinion as I stated earlier in the thread. His point is men he thinks the best ww’s are those that spent the majority of their career there and fought more fights there. Ok.
Again see my comments earlier in the thread.
Yeah but dude he's a legit historian. You a nobody.
You don't think that he did his research on Floyd ducking Manny and Shane and came to the correct conclusion.
You were the one crowing about legit historians and this guy is supposed to be as legit as they get and he has no respect for Floyd's ww run at all seems like.
Again see my comments earlier in the thread.
Whoever this ****** is no one cares about what he has to say. The moment he said Floyd avoided Mosley and Pacquiao then you know he aint no historian.
I'm pretty sure more people care about what he has to say than you. Don't be salty because he is right. If it hurts your feelings any less, he didn't put Manny on the list either. Feel better now?
read my comments in this thread. Have no issue with his opinion outside of it isn’t factual- he claimed Floyd never unified which he did.
Comments made in 2012 Before wins over manny cotto and canelo.
You were the one crowing about legit historians and this guy is supposed to be as legit as they get and he has no respect for Floyd's ww run at all seems like.
http://coxscorner.tripod.com/divisional_ratings.html
The ONLY issue I have with writers reasoning is he places ALL the blame on Floyd.
Mosley is literally on record saying he wouldnt fight Floyd because he had a dentist appointment...that literally happened.
Some people dont like to hear this but Manny couldve taken the drug tests in 2009 and the fight wouldve happened. Hell Freddy Roach even suggested the 1st negotiations were Mannys fault.
But you can say Manny and Mosley were too late. Floyd has a weird record where collectively its very strong but theres no SINGLE weight class where he dominated