1st off I just want to say canelo is hands down the best fighter in the world right now and is definitely going down in history as one of the greats.
Canelo has definitely improved since his fight against mayweather but it’s unfair to say that Floyd deliberately got him when he was too inexperienced. Canelo was 23 and mayweather was 36 I believe. Floyd was no spring chicken and people have been saying before that fight that he lost his legs in the mosley fight.
to the people that like to discredit floyds win over Canelo what would be the appropriate time for that fight to take place?
Exactly when it happened.
Canelo hasnt changed much in the big picture. His style is still the same. He's still a box-puncher.
Without fightinf Floyd when he did, Canelo isnt what he is now. A much smarter boxer in his punch selection. More of a thinker as he fights.
Cause it wasnt until Floyd that Canelo changed his ways from bullying opponents out of the ring.
Any later and its just an older Floyd fighting a more set in his ways Canelo.
so Canelo fought Floyd exactly at the right time.
in his prime against a little past it Foyd Mayweather.
how in the hell is a 36 year old fighting at a higher weight closer to his best version then a 23 year old unified/ring champ? keep your insults and tell me as a grown man how?? you must hold Floyd to such a high standard
Big fight experience - big edge to Floyd. Just like Canelo now has a huge edge vs anyone he fights generally in this category.
Fight experience overall - good edge to Floyd. Floyd at his age knew the right gameplan against Canelo. Canelo had a poor gameplan vs Floyd.
Weight - good edge to Floyd. Floyd was a lot more comfortable fighting a couple pounds under the limit, compared to Canelo.
Age - mixed bag. You could argue the 23 year old man is a better bet vs a 36 year old man, with the youth factor. Or you could argue the 36 year old has the edge due to experience. As it played out, I think Canelo's youth hurt him and Floyd's experience aided him.
what about Oscar??? Manny had 1 fight at 135 and then fought Oscar at 147...didnt you just say Oscar never did that?
No I said I can't remember Oscar or Sugar Ray using the excuse of saying a fighter had a country behind him to pull him up two divisions.
You want to try to twist my words some more or you done
No Duran had several fights at welterweight before he fought Sugar. He was fully acclimated to the weight. Thats why he performed the way that he did.
Now if a bona-fide top 10 all time great knew the importance of getting acclimated to a higher weight class, what makes you think a lessor fighter in Marquez is going to make any waves.
what about Oscar??? Manny had 1 fight at 135 and then fought Oscar at 147...didnt you just say Oscar never did that?
It was a lot closer to the best version of Floyd. It should be illegal for your dumbass to call anyone stupid by the way.
how in the hell is a 36 year old fighting at a higher weight closer to his best version then a 23 year old unified/ring champ? keep your insults and tell me as a grown man how?? you must hold Floyd to such a high standard
Oscar literally did drag up a lightweight in Manny..and Leonard fought lightweight Duran..they just happened to lose..lol
No Duran had several fights at welterweight before he fought Sugar. He was fully acclimated to the weight. Thats why he performed the way that he did.
Now if a bona-fide top 10 all time great knew the importance of getting acclimated to a higher weight class, what makes you think a lessor fighter in Marquez is going to make any waves.
I’m fine if you don’t like Floyd.
I just push back when posters act like he invented using a side advantage or other garbage that they only hold against Floyd.
I don't really have a huge opinion on Floyd (or most fighters) either way. I just analyze stuff as it comes in.
He was a great boxer, and an even better boxer-businessman. He was never going to please everyone anyway, so why not just make the most money you can?
I used to think that Mayweather defeated a green Alvarez. But in fact, Canelo had 42 fights to Floyd's 44 at the time of their bout. And, Canelo had defeated Trout, Lopez, Mosley, Cintron and Gomez. I'm not a big Mayweather fan, but he figured out how to beat Canelo and he executed a nearly perfect plan at the age of 36 against a 23 year old, highly talented, undefeated fighter. After that, Canelo got better and Floyd got older. There couldn't have been a better time for them to fight with that 13 year age gap.
They all do it, no doubt about that.
I don't hate on Floyd, not in my mind anyway. He was a great boxer, and in all his fights, to never have been dominated at any time, never really hurt, never dropped/stopped, is extremely impressive.
I’m fine if you don’t like Floyd.
I just push back when posters act like he invented using a side advantage or other garbage that they only hold against Floyd.
I don't remember Sugar Ray or Oscar justifying dragging a lightweight up two weight classes because he had a country behind him
That is because you were sucking Manny’s c0ck and not watching the sport.
Going off what you just posted, it seemed that way. If I am wrong I apologize.
Lets be real- everything Floyd did as the cash cow was done before him either by Leonard or ODH.
I don't remember Sugar Ray or Oscar justifying dragging a lightweight up two weight classes because he had a country behind him
I miss Floyd’s fights
Each event was flossing on the dork boys
cant forget sjws rearing they ugly azzes out the woods for the manny fight
beat the woman beater up manny!
You had your tmt pom poms put up ever since
Going off what you just posted, it seemed that way. If I am wrong I apologize.
Lets be real- everything Floyd did as the cash cow was done before him either by Leonard or ODH.
They all do it, no doubt about that.
I don't hate on Floyd, not in my mind anyway. He was a great boxer, and in all his fights, to never have been dominated at any time, never really hurt, never dropped/stopped, is extremely impressive.
And you've obviously never seen any of my posts before
Going off what you just posted, it seemed that way. If I am wrong I apologize.
Lets be real- everything Floyd did as the cash cow was done before him either by Leonard or ODH.
For the same reason odh made the Bhop fight at 156, Canelo made Lara at 155, Manny made the Cotto fight at 147, etc etc.
Cash cows and the bigger earners have the ability to set weights in fights, among other stipulations, that give them the best chance to win.
If you’re a legit fan you absolutely know this and know it’s been done hundreds of times.
It’s not that Floyd fans ignore this, it’s that dudes like you only hold this against Floyd.
And you've obviously never seen any of my posts before
Why did Floyd make the fight at 152...lol. Ignoring and co-signing that bull.sh.it says everything.
For the same reason odh made the Bhop fight at 156, Canelo made Lara at 155, Manny made the Cotto fight at 147, etc etc.
Cash cows and the bigger earners have the ability to set weights in fights, among other stipulations, that give them the best chance to win.
If you’re a legit fan you absolutely know this and know it’s been done hundreds of times.
It’s not that Floyd fans ignore this, it’s that dudes like you only hold this against Floyd.
The right time to fight? Well it's up to Floyd when he thinks it's time to fight depending how much credit he wants. Floyd could fight nelo now and it would be the best time for Floyd to fight nelo if credit is what Floyd wants
I have to hand it to you, you’re like the Skip Bayless of all Floyd’s critics on here. Salute.
The right time to fight? Well it's up to Floyd when he thinks it's time to fight depending how much credit he wants. Floyd could fight nelo now and it would be the best time for Floyd to fight nelo if credit is what Floyd wants