Focusing on good combinations and putting some good meat in to them. But where is the leg work? Where are the vids of him putting the miles in?
We have always said he has little girl legs and it will be a problem one day, his coach has talked more than once about his lack of interest in strengthening his legs and when it came to actually facing a big skilful fighter his legs clearly let him down, yeah yeah blame Breland and a suit if you want but his little girl legs let him down.
So firing off on Scott’s pads where he already knows where they are and isn’t under any pressure from another fighter is great but can we trust him to be putting the effort in in more important area’s? Does he even acknowledge he needs to improve there or is he sticking to the suit and the spiked water as to why his legs are a joke?
Beyonce Wilder is a bum. If you don't know that you don't know boxing. A straight bum with no brain and a great right hand.
You ain't gonna ever be a top level fighter if only 1 of your 4 limbs is top level.
It will be interesting the tactics that Fury implements once again in the third fight etc
I believe he should stay quick and unpredictable. Wilder reacts slowly to Fury's constant shifting. If Fury starts quick, befuddles Wilder for a couple of rounds then starts hitting him hard, it will be over quite soon.
I would be hugely surprised by a Wilder resurgence against Fury.
Wilder was at his supposed best when they met for the first time, and Fury - who came from years of obesity, drugs and mental health issues - outboxed him no problem, except the knockdowns (caused by Fury's excess of confidence after realizing that Wilder was not hurting him).
The second fight was an out-and-out annihilation of Deontay.
I don't see how Fury's technique can deteriorate to the point of getting knocked out by Wilder. If that happens, kudos to the Bronze Bomber.
But - as I said in another thread - if Fury comes in serious, my pick is a quicker knockout win for him, perhaps inside three/four rounds.
Fury's defense has gone downhill since that fight, he has been hit in every single fight since 'And does not really use movement anymore'.
Fury was kind of there to be hit in the rematch with Wilder, but for some reason Wilder from the very start was all over the place.
Off balance, bad footwork, disconnection.
It will be interesting the tactics that Fury implements once again in the third fight etc
How many rounds has Wilder WON against Fury again?
His skinny legs aren’t the problem. IDEAL boxers are SUPPOSE to have skinny legs and BIGGER UPPER TORSO.
His problem is he only knows how to fight ONE WAY. “ Zero” ring generalship skills. Poor transmission and ONE dimensional.
What makes Povetkin, Parker, Ruiz, and Whyte anything special? The fact that they made it on AJ's record? These are gatekeepers.
Right now there's Fury, Wilder, AJ, and everyone else. The only way any of these 3 can impress against lesser opponents is the fashion in which they beat them.
Three of them are former world champions. We can disagree on how good they are, but it's a fact that they're miles better than the crap on either Fury or Wilder boxrecs. Sefer Seferi, Stiverne x 2 lmao.
So refreshing to see someone saying the same thing I been saying for ages: Those two guys are getting way more credit than their records deserve. The stupidity around Fury especially, people saying stuff like "genius" and all that crap. He's been dropped by nobodies and gone life and death against nobodies. Wilder is awful and although he has that big punch he hasn't really put anyone decent to sleep. No Povetkin, Parker, Ruiz, Whyte or other top guys on his boxrec, and Fury has Wlad and that's it. Two frauds getting props for erm....fighting each other.
I agree that this is a dangerous fight for Fury. As **** as Wilder is he was so embarrassed by that beatdown he will give everything to avenge it. God forbid we have to endure a 4th one if Wilder wins - those guys are log jamming the F&%k out of the division at a time when there are some great matches to be made. And some fools on here defend them like they are Ali / Frazier /Foreman levels of good. SMH. What makes Povetkin, Parker, Ruiz, and Whyte anything special? The fact that they made it on AJ's record? These are gatekeepers.
Right now there's Fury, Wilder, AJ, and everyone else. The only way any of these 3 can impress against lesser opponents is the fashion in which they beat them.
Wilder does look good in the training vids. The things that stood out to me is that he is working on various feints and also concentrating on body shots.
Both will help him.
But as I always say it takes more than 1 training camp to see lasting results.
I think both Wilder and Fury are frauds. But I will say this, I think Wilder will win this trilogy match. He is hungry and Fury is overconfident and has been partying and chilling. This may all add up to an upset. Fury is now trying to cram all his training into 8 weeks when he should have been active this entire time. I have a feeling that he will pull out with another fake injury and the fight will get pushed back. i hope I am wrong, buts that's what I see happening.
So refreshing to see someone saying the same thing I been saying for ages: Those two guys are getting way more credit than their records deserve. The stupidity around Fury especially, people saying stuff like "genius" and all that crap. He's been dropped by nobodies and gone life and death against nobodies. Wilder is awful and although he has that big punch he hasn't really put anyone decent to sleep. No Povetkin, Parker, Ruiz, Whyte or other top guys on his boxrec, and Fury has Wlad and that's it. Two frauds getting props for erm....fighting each other.
I agree that this is a dangerous fight for Fury. As sh*t as Wilder is he was so embarrassed by that beatdown he will give everything to avenge it. God forbid we have to endure a 4th one if Wilder wins - those guys are log jamming the F&%k out of the division at a time when there are some great matches to be made. And some fools on here defend them like they are Ali / Frazier /Foreman levels of good. SMH.
Wilder is a puncher and any training, even if it takes months and hardship, that gives him even one more opportunity to land is worth it. he does not have to outbox Fury... I think Fury wins, if he shows up ready...But if he is not ready Wilder will crack him.
Boom
One of the few posters here with any sense. Wilders chances are slim and, even if he wins, it won't make him the better fighter of the two for me. What will be interesting is if he can exploit the body considering Fury leaves himself so open at times. I also hope he's been working on nullifying Furys clinching. He really has no choice but to come forward, that negative fight style and waiting for the right is gone. And that goes for everyone in the division, everyone now knows that they key to taking Wikder on is not standing in front of him and thinking the right is an inevitability. He has to earn his KO from now on.
Focusing on good combinations and putting some good meat in to them. But where is the leg work? Where are the vids of him putting the miles in?
We have always said he has little girl legs and it will be a problem one day, his coach has talked more than once about his lack of interest in strengthening his legs and when it came to actually facing a big skilful fighter his legs clearly let him down, yeah yeah blame Breland and a suit if you want but his little girl legs let him down.
So firing off on Scott’s pads where he already knows where they are and isn’t under any pressure from another fighter is great but can we trust him to be putting the effort in in more important area’s? Does he even acknowledge he needs to improve there or is he sticking to the suit and the spiked water as to why his legs are a joke?
This is why I dislike you morons. None of your analysis is based on actual assessments, its all on your emotional response. Now that Fury has scuppered the Joshuw fight, you suddenly want to now pretend as if Wilder is some reborn fighter. If the JoshuaFury fight was never on the cards, you would be claiming his padwork will make no difference.
I’m a standard Wilder hater cuz he is a massive turd of a man and a huge racist but I have no issue with Scott being his coach. Majority of the best coaches in the game didn’t manage to compete at the level Scott did. Some top coaches have never even competed as a pro Boxer. Only thing is Scott could just be the next YES MAN ego stoker for Wilder to ignore.
But a big issue is with what we have all heard about Wilder being a serious diva and only doing what he wants to do, turning up late, not running or not doing other aspects of training, having his trainers receive texts to say what mood he may be in and how hard he is willing to train it how little he may feel like learning that day.
Scott could be the best teacher in the world but if Wilder refuses to be a good student then it really doesn’t matter. And listening to Scott crawl up Wilder box to lick it on interviews and the fact they are friends and he was willing to take a dive in a title fight for Wilder we could well just have another YES man for Wilder. But that’s on Deontay, just cuz Scott isn’t an ex champion don’t make him a crap trainer.
His new coach is Malik Scott. What the fuk is that jobber going to teach him. How to take a dive?
He knocked out Malik in one round when they fought. Scott never beat one decent fighter in his career as I recall. That said, Fury looks like a blob right now.
Pretty much this, though I think I give Wilder more chance this time around than you do. As long as Wilder has a steady deck to fire his great guns from, he's got life. I'm expecting a war, nothing like the beat down we saw in the 2nd fight.
Im telling you these fights happen and: Its a decision with Wilder outboxing Fury! Lol. :lol1: Its like the Murphy's law of boxing.
Fury surprised a lot of people in the second by changing the way he fought, even though he actually publicly announced that is what he was going to do, but Fury is obviously a skilled boxer as well as massive which gives him that flexibility.
Wilder isn't a skilled boxer by most metrics, that just isn't him, most would agree his path to victory is pretty narrow, i.e. he isn't banking rounds by out boxing Fury on way to a points victory, its pretty much KO or lose IMO.
That makes it a pretty tall order for Wilder, will he significantly improve his technique at this point when he has never really shown that progress previously, then again he had never lost previously so maybe it is different now.
Be interesting to see which Fury shows up also, I suspect the go forward style from the second fight, but you never know.
Who are you his mother go outside and play.
I’m your dad, and you will stop dickriding fighter’s like some kinda stalker queer and just be a fan of boxing. Pops has spoken.
Son...in training everybody looks sharp! Wilder has demonstrated to be a tomato can and one trick pony. I think he has excelled because the decadence of the HW division the last few decades.