Did Bob Arum do Eddie Hearn dirty?

no major fight negotiation gets signed in 48 hours, that does not happen..... especially not with guys like Wilder/Fury..... it is simply not possible ... Frank Warren says the terms for a third fight were already spelled out in the contract for the previous fight. That makes sense. There wasn't anything to negotiate.

Fair points. But are you suggesting Arum had the arbitrator do his bidding somehow? no not his bidding but I absolutely suggest that Arum likely had the inside word from the arbitrator, or from someone in that office Arum has been convicted of bribing officials and corruption..... so yea..... he has no morals whatsoever, and he wields influence everywhere and I know, with absolute 100% certainty..... that Arum must have been in discussion with Team Wilder..... and I highly suspect that Fury knew exactly what was going on remember..... Fury is my guy, he is my favorite heavyweight..... I just keep it real the fact that Arum obviously was in discussion with Team Wilder for MONTHS..... which is likely how long it took to nail down that fight..... lends weight to my suspicion that Arum likely had the inside word from the arbitrator no major fight negotiation gets signed in 48 hours, that does not happen..... especially not with guys like Wilder/Fury..... it is simply not possible ...

..... how the fcuk did Bob Arum secure... 1) a date 2) a venue 3) two signed contracts ..... 48 hours after announcing that Fury/Joshua was a done deal...??? I really need a answer to that question :lol1::lol1: that would make him the best promoter EVER no, wait..... that would make him Merlin the Magician LMAO Arum just pulled the same stunt with Crawford/Pacquiao... now Pacquiao is fighting Crawford's 147 rival Spence come on, you guys were not born yesterday..... Arum is notorious for killing fights that do not interest him you cannot overlook - or dismiss - the two points in bold ... Fair points. But are you suggesting Arum had the arbitrator do his bidding somehow?

..... how the fcuk did Bob Arum secure... 1) a date 2) a venue 3) two signed contracts ..... 48 hours after announcing that Fury/Joshua was a done deal...??? I really need a answer to that question :lol1::lol1: that would make him the best promoter EVER no, wait..... that would make him Merlin the Magician LMAO Arum just pulled the same stunt with Crawford/Pacquiao... now Pacquiao is fighting Crawford's 147 rival Spence come on, you guys were not born yesterday..... Arum is notorious for killing fights that do not interest him you cannot overlook - or dismiss - the two points in bold ...

Why does it make Fury look good though? To the casual eye - aka the bulk of customers - it looks like Fury ducked and it makes Arum look difficult to deal with. If anything, it makes it look like the other top HW's don't want to fight AJ. Its only us, on here, who argue about that. Hearn promotes Joshua. Joshua wants undisputed so Hearn was proceeding because Arum, Fury and Warren were saying that Wilder 3 was NOT going to happen. Its a million percent up to Arum, Fury and Warren to tell Hearn not to make the fight if they had any suspicion that they would lose the arbitration, they shouldn't have been going along with making undisputed and then announcing it! So all this talk that Hearn was jumping the gun is BS. In a partnership, you should trust that the other party is delivering their bit. Hearn delivered but Arum, Fury and Warren totally ****ed it. I never said this situation made Fury look good. I said it was a smart Business move by Arum. And obviously Arum is looking for His ( Arum's ) best interest. We'll disagree about Hearn jumping the gun and hyping the fight. But I remember reading articles where Arum was telling Hearn that " Nothing was signed yet so stop taking about the fight ".

Been looking for this since Hearn raised the issue of the failure to terminate. And since Warren waffled when asked about it. Do you have a link? I actually went back on tweeter to see if i can up the link here, can't find it again. Did Hearn mention that as well? Would be searching again for it after work, unless they have deleted it.

If he did it was a smart business move by Arum. Eddie Hearn was hyping up Fury / Joshua the whole time giving Fury some Free promotion. Having beat him already. Fighting Wilder is High reward / low risk in their eyes. Get him out the way and the AJ fight will still be there ( as long as AJ wins ). Hearn thought he'd get Fury coming off a long lay off. Arum straight played him. Why does it make Fury look good though? To the casual eye - aka the bulk of customers - it looks like Fury ducked and it makes Arum look difficult to deal with. If anything, it makes it look like the other top HW's don't want to fight AJ. Its only us, on here, who argue about that. Hearn promotes Joshua. Joshua wants undisputed so Hearn was proceeding because Arum, Fury and Warren were saying that Wilder 3 was NOT going to happen. Its a million percent up to Arum, Fury and Warren to tell Hearn not to make the fight if they had any suspicion that they would lose the arbitration, they shouldn't have been going along with making undisputed and then announcing it! So all this talk that Hearn was jumping the gun is BS. In a partnership, you should trust that the other party is delivering their bit. Hearn delivered but Arum, Fury and Warren totally fucked it.

In the arbitration judgement seen on social media, Top rank HAD the rights to terminate the contract once Team Wilder didn’t respond to their correspondence. Been looking for this since Hearn raised the issue of the failure to terminate. And since Warren waffled when asked about it. Do you have a link?

More than likely inside talks they knew that the ruling might go one way and the other. To sign a fight and spend all the money promoting it especially one that big is not a good business decision if the ruling goes the other way. Bob has been involved in many lawsuits and court proceedings so he my have known and Eddie didn't listen.

In the arbitration judgement seen on social media, Top rank HAD the rights to terminate the contract once Team Wilder didn’t respond to their correspondence. Yes, Top Rank exercised that right in October, claiming the contract had expired, but Wilder disputed that claim and exercised the binding arbitration clause in November. The arbitrator agreed with Wilder.

Maybe. I don't know, none of us know. It means either Hearn is a liar or a gullible idiot. For me I consider it the same as buying a house from someone whose in, say, a legal dispute about inheritance along with their siblings about ownership of said property. I would be fucking stupid to start buying furniture and taking out home insurance whilst ignoring the fact that there is a strong possibility the civil ruling may not go in my favour. I remember saying here that just because Arum is a Harvard educated lawyer, doesn't make him honest. Some dumbass here, I think REDEEMER, tried to argue that said suspicion was completely wrong.

I think it was arrogance more than ignorance on Bob's part. I think he truly believed he could grease enough palms to get past the arbitration.

If he did it was a smart business move by Arum. Eddie Hearn was hyping up Fury / Joshua the whole time giving Fury some Free promotion. Having beat him already. Fighting Wilder is High reward / low risk in their eyes. Get him out the way and the AJ fight will still be there ( as long as AJ wins ). Hearn thought he'd get Fury coming off a long lay off. Arum straight played him.

What termination contract? There was a mediation/arbitration clause in the existing contract and Wilder exercised it. In NOVEMBER... https://www.boxingscene.com/wilder-taking-fury-mediation-attempt-force-third-fight--153168 In the arbitration judgement seen on social media, Top rank HAD the rights to terminate the contract once Team Wilder didn’t respond to their correspondence.

He did him dirty. Bob had plan A and plan B, A was to have the Joshua fight and B was lose Arbitration and have the Wilder fight but if Hearn knew how wrong the case was for Wilder he would of gone the Usyk route so Bob and Warren and Fury lied about it to keep Hearn working.

wilder vs fury in the US does bigger numbers than aj vs fury. it's fury's last fight with espn. after that, dazn will take the aj-fury fight. ill be surprised if fury extends his espn contract. they've lost money on him anyway,

Could be. I kinda forgot about that cuz it seemed like nothing, but Bob didn't think it was nothing. Arum is petty and conniving. He strikes me as a guy who would do anything to bury a competitor.

He sent Eddie on a fool's errand. Look how quickly the Wilder fight got signed, that's Top Rank/Haymon, FOX/ESPN negotiating. This has been in the works for more than a few weeks.

The fact that Wilder was releasing training videos, when he was in hiding for 9 months prior to that, the fact that Wilder signed his contract 2 days after the arbitration, Fury 4 days after etc, Trampler on social media about Fury having a July PPV, Arum not signing the termination contract in December, Arum not appealing the ruling, just getting everything sorted out within 4 days! Even stevie knows what’s up… It all can’t be a coincidence. What termination contract? There was a mediation/arbitration clause in the existing contract and Wilder exercised it. In NOVEMBER... https://www.boxingscene.com/wilder-taking-fury-mediation-attempt-force-third-fight--153168

The fact that Wilder was releasing training videos, when he was in hiding for 9 months prior to that, the fact that Wilder signed his contract 2 days after the arbitration, Fury 4 days after etc, Trampler on social media about Fury having a July PPV, Arum not signing the termination contract in December, Arum not appealing the ruling, just getting everything sorted out within 4 days! Even stevie knows what’s up… It all can’t be a coincidence.