Other guys don`t even dare to be great.
Charlo refused to fight Canelo and also is not in rush to fight Benavidez or Andrade.
GGG is fighting bums, doesn`t even fight Andrade.
Spence doesnn`t even fight Crawford.
It is what it is. Canelo is the guy that is willing to challenge him self. I am not his fan or something, but this guy keeps boxing alive right now.
He is willing to take on all the best guys in his division, he also already fought one jr. heavyweight champ.
I wanna say, other guys have a potential to be near Canelo or even better, just they do nothing for that.
For example imagine Jermall Charlo fighting and beating GGG, Andrade, Benavidez, than move up to 175 and challenge Bivol?
Or Gervonta Davis fighting Lomachenko, Lopez, Haney?
I've been following Alvarez fights since I first saw him on the Pacquiao vs Margarito undercard..
And I must say he has just carried on moving on the up and up taking on majority off the challengers and the best in his respective divisions...
Does the man have flaws and sometimes do things which people disagree with? sure no doubt but you can't deny his achievements and the attention he draws to his fights he gets most off even the casual viewers interest..
But I digress people will always call out or say fault against him as the hardcore detractors will always have something to say against him regardless to who he beats and whichever belts he unifies/retains or accomplishes.....personally I'm happy to see his career has gotten to where it has
He is very fortunate that he is worth the risk for these guys. If he didn't get guys their highest paycheck, he certainly wouldn't have amassed the resume he does and having everyone want to fight him. It's a shame that some of these guys get in there and don't even look like they are trying to win. Yes he is great at making fighters not fight like usual but they seem happy to be getting paid and putting up minimal effort. Nobody wants to risk losing the Canelo payday and it's ****ing frustrating.
point well made
canelo has mexican fans and hence money. There's not much reward for Charlo or Andrade to fight each other compared to getting a fight vs a GGG or Canelo.
canelo did put him self at disadvantage for that fight, and he felt the power, he said right after the fight that he wasnt going to do it again...
it was worth the risk since kova was the bigger name at 168 with a resume full of names too... too good of a scalp for canelo going from 160 to 175...
maybe if there is an undisputed champ he will do it again, otherwise is not worth the risk to go only for another belt cuz he already did it..
lol.......
All BS but I don't mind to answer, I'm just glad to know that you are very salty and angry and waste time responding even if you know you're wrong.
Not surprised you can't even defend yourself, you're angry that dates fights happened don't lie,its set in stone
I appreciate Canelo a lot - the sport was very fortunate to have him on the back burner as Floyd/Pac slowed down. I don't know who else could have stepped in and been ready for that kind of attention. Honorable mention to AJ too who had similar expectation, but not the same
Yes, he was groomed for it but you have to have the requisite skill too. The only thing for me is to just make sure to stay vigilant that the bottom feeders who hope to eat the crumbs that fall off his plate aren't doing their jobs tipping the scales in his favor. There was a time when it felt like that and I can't get as excited as I like to be about the big fights of the year. And that is not to absolve him of the clen thing, but nothing one can do about the past, just clean it up and make it right. He won't convince everyone though and it doesn't mean shady stuff won't be happening again but Ihope he stays mindful of this.
but yeah, I got behind the Saunders fight because that was a good opponent for Canelo to remove some of the doubt - it didn't quite reach the peak and ebb/flow I hoped but I think he's getting a ton of goodwill off that fight and that is what why I wanted to see that one. Feels a lot better to get behind him and his events when it's like that
Also - the way he is just grinding through these fights while some of the circus trainwrecks go on alongside him is also appreciated. Oh, and speaking English for the promotion of this fight went a lot way and will continue to pay dividends I think
you're lying when you say it was 2 yrs,1st off Canelo beat Cotto LITERALLY at the end of 2015,so call it 2016,
No matter how often I prove you a liar you keep parroting that lie,
2nd of all you forget ggg was being a diva refusing to budge from his bs claims of being the A side & he thought Canelo would give him 45% in purse bid from corrupt WBC,so you can easily say he couldn't possibly be expected to fight ggg til at least May of 2016
,well he announced on may 6 2017 that he was fighting ggg in sept 2017,so in other words Canelo agreed to fight ggg around 10 months after he could've possibly been expected to.
Of course you salty ggg fans like to pretend Canelo aged your hero. Stop with the lies man,after so long, just stop.
And to top it off you keep parroting the lie that it wasn't ggg who ducked & continues to duck the 3match
All BS but I don't mind to answer, I'm just glad to know that you are very salty and angry and waste time responding even if you know you're wrong.
And the funny thing is most of these guys are Americans, in around Canelo’s age. But they hide behind their promoters, managers and advisers.
I look at Benavidez for example, he talked all this talk about Plant ducking him and how he can make the fight now, then his manager came out and said the time for the fight isn’t now etc and how they need to build it up and him fighting Yildrim instead.
This is a perfect example of how some of these boxers are either not as ambitious or stopped by their handlers.
Another example is Tank Davis, since the predraza fight he has basically done next to nothing, fighting overblown smaller fighter, picking and cherrypicking enough to be called a “Superstar”.
You have Crawford, Boo Boo all the same age or even older than Canelo, are they active like Canelo? Nope, you have Charlo who talks the talk and then run when the heat gets hotter…
This is why Canelo generates the views and fame that he gets now. He might end up fighting 4 times this year, whilst the others would be fighting low level opponents and barely scraping two fights even if that.
Said nothing about Bud, I was responding to the TS's lie that other fighters don't dare to be great. Never mentioned Bud. I was defending fighters like Wilder, Roman Gonzalez, Estrada, Mikey, Loma, Rigo because the TS said nobody else in boxing takes risks.
more like a ped, double rehydration clause (kovalev), rigged cards, nationalistic fanbase to his credit, i don't fight for belts but for pride (andrade), oscar lost my belts so i could fight for undisputed at 160 (andrade), 117-111 card and if you don't agree my fanboys will call your wife (see lara fight), fraud
in all the years i have watched boxing there is no so called p4p with this kind of nonsense behind him.
He’s on your avatar and you’re talking down about a guy who’s resume has way more good fighters in than the guy you name yourself after and have an avatar of.
I said no such thing and never said Bud had a better resume than Canelo.
What does Crawford have to do with this?
He’s on your avatar and you’re talking down about a guy who’s resume has way more good fighters in than the guy you name yourself after and have an avatar of.
Of course you salty ggg fans like to pretend Canelo aged your hero. Stop with the lies man,after so long, just stop.
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He aged GGG and GGG was still the favorite for both fights and ESPN and Ring had GGG p4p #1.
Canelo ran from GGG for 2 years and then said for 2 years that he didn't want a trilogy.
GGG might be fighting nobodies but he's 39 years old.
you're lying when you say it was 2 yrs,1st off Canelo beat Cotto LITERALLY at the end of 2015,so call it 2016,
No matter how often I prove you a liar you keep parroting that lie,
2nd of all you forget ggg was being a diva refusing to budge from his bs claims of being the A side & he thought Canelo would give him 45% in purse bid from corrupt WBC,so you can easily say he couldn't possibly be expected to fight ggg til at least May of 2016
,well he announced on may 6 2017 that he was fighting ggg in sept 2017,so in other words Canelo agreed to fight ggg around 10 months after he could've possibly been expected to.
Of course you salty ggg fans like to pretend Canelo aged your hero. Stop with the lies man,after so long, just stop.
And to top it off you keep parroting the lie that it wasn't ggg who ducked & continues to duck the 3match
So why fight Kovalev at 175? You admit that was a cherry pick I guess?
canelo did put him self at disadvantage for that fight, and he felt the power, he said right after the fight that he wasnt going to do it again...
it was worth the risk since kova was the bigger name at 168 with a resume full of names too... too good of a scalp for canelo going from 160 to 175...
maybe if there is an undisputed champ he will do it again, otherwise is not worth the risk to go only for another belt cuz he already did it..
they belong on a different weight class, one thing is to take a risk, but to fight at disadvantege is different, do we need canelo to fight with one hand only ??
So why fight Kovalev at 175? You admit that was a cherry pick I guess? As I said, Canelo is fighting well, but he isn't really taking many risks either. He holds all the cards.
I don't see him fighting Artur or Bivol, for example. Those would be real risks. But he doesn't need to do that.
they belong on a different weight class, one thing is to take a risk, but to fight at disadvantege is different, do we need canelo to fight with one hand only ??
We have to give Oscar a TON of credit he introduced him to this American Market! Without Oscar he probably would've ended up like Zurdo did with Top Rank
Yeah Oscar say what you want about him but GBP did do a good job promoting and pushing Canelo to build him up to this point. OSCAR DE LA HOYA started the May and September Dates and made them big dates here in America.
As for Other fighters, well they just don't have the Loyalty from their Own People and Culture like Canelo has from his Mexican Fans and I think it is a TON of Jealousy not from the Fighters Themselves but more so the FANS of those other fighters. A lot of the current Top Fighters are huge fans of Canelo, he is highly respected among his PEERS/Fellow Boxers and to me that is far more important than what some BITTER Fans on Social Media, Forums and Youtube are saying. Speaking more English now will only make him BIGGER!
The sport is Big Enough and even BETTER when it has Multiple Superstars like the other far more popular sports in America has MULTIPLE Superstars not just one! So the rest of boxing needs to do a better job of self marketable and just connecting with their People and Fanbases to get them to rally behind you. Do this, pick a Set Place where you fight and set dates when you will fight Annually, this way people who don't even watch boxing much will always know when to expect you. Also too CONNECT WITH YOUR PEOPLE, stop trying to leech off the great Mexican fans fighting Mexican Fighters to try and get them to support you too because it is never going to happen because YOU AINT MEXICAN! I want to see Boxing Overall WIN not just fighters I like, so boxers and their promoters who are getting 15-20% for doing absolutely nothing need to step it up and earn their damn money! Don King, say what you want but Don King use to go on Jay Leno, David Letterman, Arsenio Hall Late Night Talk Shows and every Radio Shows from Hip Hop Stations to damn Country Stations to Talk Shows like Howard Stern and he would promo the HELL out of Mike Tyson, Chavez Sr, Trinidad...No Current Trainer is doing that at all. Eddie is accessible at least and is willing to talk to whoever is willing to listen so credit to him he is the best PROMOTER in boxing Right Now for sure. For the guys who don't have a Promoter, Hire One! Hire you a charismatic Guy to come and help with Promotions and name him like President of your own Promotion or something. Say what you want about Leonard Ellerbe but he is a well spoken sharp dressed guy who goes out and would Help Mayweather with Promotions too. He also does a good job of pushing Tank and getting people to believe that Tank is already this huge STAR. While Tank is not their yet, the fact that Mayweather and Ellerbe pushes him, have Casuals and Celebrities INTERESTED!
Canelo is fighting very well now. But obviously some fights become much easier to take, make, and win, when you have Canelo's star status. You can control the terms of the fight, and you know if you go 12 rounds you are likely winning. Let's not oversell the 'he is taking risks' thing. When you're the super A side like he is, you don't really have to take risks.
I don't see him fighting Artur or Bivol, for example. Those would be real risks. But he doesn't need to do that.