Tell me why this fighter isn't the perfect fighter. Got the attributes of the best ever.
Physique: Lennox Lewis
Hand Speed: Ali
Speed: Roy Jones Jr.
Power: Foreman
Jab: Holmes or GGG
Left Hand: Frazier
Defense: Mayweather
Conditioning: Marciano
Heart: Holyfield
Chin: GGG
Head Size: Hagler
Abs: Ali
Ring IQ: Hopkins
Intensity: Pacquiao
Charisma: Ali
Swagger: Tyson
I didn't take it as an insult lol. You were beside yourself that someone said GGG had an ATG jab. I tried to explain to you, as nicely as I could really, why people would think that he has an ATG jab to a lot of people. It's pretty obvious that his jab is up there with anyone's really.
You calling me a fanboy is hilarious btw. A fanboy would admit when his guy gets beat or looks bad. GGG looked bad vs SD and maybe eeked out a decision. You fools swear Canelo dominated GGG twice when he won no more than 4 rounds in either fight.
If we are talking about how we look, I don't think that's a contest you want to have either. Cheers.
I said there were many better jabs than GGG and that he didn't have a top 2 jab. I'm also on record for saying GGG got robbed in the first fight.
So you can kindly go fock yourself.
That's me giving straight facts. And yes, I can get emotional too. I have very strong hate and disgust for fanboys. I also feel sad for you. You have nothing much to live for. Probably very physically weak, so you have to worship people who know nothing about you. That's why you take someone saying GGG doesn't have a number one or number two jab as a personal insult.
I didn't take it as an insult lol. You were beside yourself that someone said GGG had an ATG jab. I tried to explain to you, as nicely as I could really, why people would think that he has an ATG jab to a lot of people. It's pretty obvious that his jab is up there with anyone's really.
You calling me a fanboy is hilarious btw. A fanboy would admit when his guy gets beat or looks bad. GGG looked bad vs SD and maybe eeked out a decision. You fools swear Canelo dominated GGG twice when he won no more than 4 rounds in either fight.
If we are talking about how we look, I don't think that's a contest you want to have either. Cheers.
I'll let people read those posts for themselves, and decide who is getting emotional about everything.
You seemed upset that a guy said that GGG was using his jab well vs Canelo. I pointed out, that statistically, he used his jab often vs Canelo, and any reasonable person would say he used it very well.
You seemed upset that some people feel GGG has an ATG jab.
I pointed out that GGG really beat Canelo twice behind his jab, and that many, yourself included, revere Canelo and currently rank his number 1 pfp.
Effectively using your jab against the number 1 pfp fighter in the world, twice, and in many people's eyes, beating him twice behind that jab.
I can't think of any other fighter in history who has two such performances against a top pfp fighter, largely with the jab.
Buster, Wlad, Holmes, Lennox all have great jabs. I don't think any of them even have 2 such performances.
That's me giving straight facts. And yes, I can get emotional too. I have very strong hate and disgust for fanboys. I also feel sad for you. You have nothing much to live for. Probably very physically weak, so you have to worship people who know nothing about you. That's why you take someone saying GGG doesn't have a number one or number two jab as a personal insult.
Canelo fans have 0 sense.
They hate on GGG's jab, to hate on any and everything GGG. Not realizing that GGG in many people's eyes beat Canelo, largely behind the jab, twice.
Yet they swear Canelo is this special fighter and number 1 pfp. If they had any sense they would spin a better fairytale - if they really want to keep up with the fan fiction that Canelo won those fights, they should say that Canelo is so great that he was able to overcome the great stuff/jab that GGG brought to the table. That only a special fighter like Canelo could find a way to win in that scenario etc.
Just shows that fan really is short for fanatic. No sense for most fans.
Are you talking about the Canelo fight? Please tell me you aren't????
He landed it on Canelo like 230 times in 2 fights, 24 rounds. I'm not a math whiz, but that's like 10 per round. If Canelo is that great, I would say GGG's jab is pretty good, no?
Not almost, I quite vividly remember him dropping Povetkin with a jab. Buster Douglas dropped a guy twice with the jab. So many great jabs. Having GGG as the number one or two jab in history is exactly what I would expect a GGG fan to do.
And for the record, I respect GGG. His fans is who I hate.
This has absolutely nothing to do with my original point which was Buster Douglas and Klitschko having knock down power with the jab. And I never said GGG doesn't have a good jab, just not in the top 2 of history. That's pretty reasonable, right?
You people need to stop being such b1tches, seriously. It's getting sad and I really don't get why you are so emotionally and personally involved in this guy.
I'll let people read those posts for themselves, and decide who is getting emotional about everything.
You seemed upset that a guy said that GGG was using his jab well vs Canelo. I pointed out, that statistically, he used his jab often vs Canelo, and any reasonable person would say he used it very well.
You seemed upset that some people feel GGG has an ATG jab.
I pointed out that GGG really beat Canelo twice behind his jab, and that many, yourself included, revere Canelo and currently rank his number 1 pfp.
Effectively using your jab against the number 1 pfp fighter in the world, twice, and in many people's eyes, beating him twice behind that jab.
I can't think of any other fighter in history who has two such performances against a top pfp fighter, largely with the jab.
Buster, Wlad, Holmes, Lennox all have great jabs. I don't think any of them even have 2 such performances.
Tell me why this fighter isn't the perfect fighter. Got the attributes of the best ever.
Physique: Lennox Lewis
Hand Speed: Ali
Speed: Roy Jones Jr.
Power: Foreman
Jab: Holmes or GGG
Left Hand: Frazier
Defense: Mayweather
Conditioning: Marciano
Heart: Holyfield
Chin: GGG
Head Size: Hagler
Abs: Ali
Ring IQ: Hopkins
Intensity: Pacquiao
Charisma: Ali
Swagger: Tyson
Physique: Andy Ruiz
Hand Speed: Carlos Baldomir
Speed: Nikolai Valuev
Power: Paulie Malignaggi
Defense: Arturo Gatti
Conditioning: Jermaine Taylor
Heart: Victor Ortiz
Chin: Amir Khan
Head size: Chocolatito
Abs: James Toney
Ring IQ: Alfredo Angulo
Intensity: Danny Garcia
Charisma: Guillermo Rigondeaux
Swagger: Jeff Horn
I’ve gone for heavyweights (recent or active) - can’t repeat the name twice!
Physique: AJ
Hand Speed: Ruiz
Speed: fury
Power: Wilder
Jab: Klitschko
Left Hand: Povetkin
Defense: parker
Conditioning: ortiz
Heart: Bellew
Chin: Joyce
Head Size: wtf is this?? Lol
Abs: Takam
Ring IQ: Usyk
Intensity: Miller
Charisma: chisora
Swagger: whyte
there are two heads. the top head or the head down below? which one? :banana:
He landed it on Canelo like 230 times in 2 fights, 24 rounds. I'm not a math whiz, but that's like 10 per round. If Canelo is that great, I would say GGG's jab is pretty good, no?
This has absolutely nothing to do with my original point which was Buster Douglas and Klitschko having knock down power with the jab. And I never said GGG doesn't have a good jab, just not in the top 2 of history. That's pretty reasonable, right?
You people need to stop being such b1tches, seriously. It's getting sad and I really don't get why you are so emotionally and personally involved in this guy.
Ali didn't really have nice abs doe.
Or we talking about being able to eat up body shots? He did take monstrous body punches from Foreman, Fraizer, and Shavers and didn't budge.
When he was in fighting shape in the 60s he had great glistening abs.
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Are you talking about the Canelo fight? Please tell me you aren't????
He landed it on Canelo like 230 times in 2 fights, 24 rounds. I'm not a math whiz, but that's like 10 per round. If Canelo is that great, I would say GGG's jab is pretty good, no?
Not almost, I quite vividly remember him dropping Povetkin with a jab. Buster Douglas dropped a guy twice with the jab. So many great jabs. Having GGG as the number one or two jab in history is exactly what I would expect a GGG fan to do.
And for the record, I respect GGG. His fans is who I hate.
Say what you want about GGG, but if you can find 5 guys with a better jab than him, you are either lying or some type of boxing rainman who has seen and remembered fighters that no one else knows exist.
Holmes, Lennox, GGG. I can't think of anyone else in that class really.
We just came off a fight where GGG knocked out the #6 fighter according to Ring Magazine, TWICE with a jab. GGG's jab is one of the deadliest in history. He had Canelo backing up all night scared of it.
Are you talking about the Canelo fight? Please tell me you aren't????
Not almost, I quite vividly remember him dropping Povetkin with a jab. Buster Douglas dropped a guy twice with the jab. So many great jabs. Having GGG as the number one or two jab in history is exactly what I would expect a GGG fan to do.
And for the record, I respect GGG. His fans is who I hate.
We just came off a fight where GGG knocked out the #6 fighter according to Ring Magazine, TWICE with a jab. GGG's jab is one of the deadliest in history. He had Canelo backing up all night scared of it.
Heavyweight, all fighters that have fought as a heavyweight during their careers at some point etc.
Physique: Lennox Lewis.
Hand Speed: Mike Tyson.
Speed: Muhammad Ali.
Power: George Foreman.
Jab: Larry Holmes.
Left Hand: Tommy Morrison.
Defense: David Haye.
Conditioning: Evander Holyfield.
Heart: Joe Frazier.
Chin: Vitali Kiltschko.
Head Size: David Tua.
Abs: Ken Norton.
Ring IQ: Ezzard Charles.
Intensity: Rocky Marciano.
Charisma: Monte Barrett.
Swagger: James Toney.
On another matter, if you want to see a really dirty, casually dirty fight look at Max Baer and Primo Carnera.
Thanks a lot, I will sir.
Huge fan of Max Baer by the way
Not almost, I quite vividly remember him dropping Povetkin with a jab. Buster Douglas dropped a guy twice with the jab. So many great jabs. Having GGG as the number one or two jab in history is exactly what I would expect a GGG fan to do.
And for the record, I respect GGG. His fans is who I hate.
I've actually read quotes from boxers who said that his left straight jab was like another's KO punch.
On another matter, if you want to see a really dirty, casually dirty fight look at Max Baer and Primo Carnera.
I prefer Klitschko's "jab" which has almost KD power.
Not almost, I quite vividly remember him dropping Povetkin with a jab. Buster Douglas dropped a guy twice with the jab. So many great jabs. Having GGG as the number one or two jab in history is exactly what I would expect a GGG fan to do.
And for the record, I respect GGG. His fans is who I hate.