Face it, Spence don't want that Bud Crawford smoke

Spence and Crawford both want to fight Pacquiao more than each other.

so Jermell is now ducking Harrison? a guy he KO'd and was robbed against? :fing02: and Jermall don't fight nobody? he just beat the guy who was robbed against GGG. try another angle Bandman logic Close fight where your guy wins/it was close - he put on a masterclass Close fight where your guy loses - he was robbed Lol clown

Derevychenko was robbed vs GGG. He definitely has a much better case for beating GGG than Canelo or Danny did

Where have I ever called Spence a fraud? And Joshua was doing nothing? Breaking box office records is nothing? Collecting all biit one of the belts nothing? Becoming the 2nd biggest earner in the sport nothing? It's only nothing when you want to say that to fit in to an agenda, if your honest he was doing alot. That's my fault. I got you mixed up with monzon. But how is it an agenda if I was favoring the guy to win? As I said, I don't believe I spoke anything about money when it came to AJ and Wilder. I favored AJ to win at the time. Full stop. I still don't care for Wilder. That's like me favoring Crawford but then saying Spence deserves more money. Like, what is that? :lol1: What records was AJ breaking? Are these UK records?

Derevychenko was robbed vs GGG. 6-6 was acceptable and although the KD shouldve been a rabbit punch it was the difference maker Dervenchenko is a good fighter but his physical size limitations (height and reach) make it hard for him at MW against Jermall, Jacobs, GGG, etc

Jermell rematched Harrison and got his belt back Harrison won close fight 1st time Harrison was winning 2nd fight more clearly (although "Lions" judging somehow had Jermell ahead) before stoppage Jermell wont give Harrison the rematch that Harrison gave him

Both AJ and Wilder were doing nothing however. It wasn't a conversation of Tyson Fury, who actually had accomplishments in the division. Who beat Klitschko. It was two guys who liked to beat up on cans their whole life. Those dudes had to do 50-50. Their body of work in the division was the same. But I don't believe I spoke anything about money when it came to those two, I favored AJ over Wilder (until I saw AJ unable to deal with sluggers) but that's it. Crawford-Spence will have to be 50-50 to get done because of their egos. But realistically, on body of work, Spence with potentially 3 belts and a resume of top 10 welters beaten should get a bigger cut, objectively, over Crawford with 1 belt and less than stellar 147 resume. It's not even a case like Pacquiao coming up beating MAB, Morales, Marquez, ODLH and Hatton before fighting the top WWs and earning significantly more than the top WWs either. If Crawford had that on his resume. It'd be different, even if Spence had a better 147 resume. But the one difference between you and I is that you are calling Spence a fraud, while I am giving Crawford respect while being honest about his less than stellar resume at 147. Where have I ever called Spence a fraud? And Joshua was doing nothing? Breaking box office records is nothing? Collecting all biit one of the belts nothing? Becoming the 2nd biggest earner in the sport nothing? It's only nothing when you want to say that to fit in to an agenda, if your honest he was doing alot.

Crawford is a way better fighter than Spence. How can people not see this. Crawford wins

Spence is leaving it all to his uncle Al. As if Haymon is the one fighting.

I actually believe Spence deserves the higher split based on his drawing power being higher than Crawford and him having more world titles than Crawford at 147. Its just a shame that you are one of those that argued the complete opposite when it came to Anthony Joshua and Deontay Wilder, when it was Wilder and AJ none of that mattered. 180 degree turn on that narrative I've noticed from PBC fans. Both AJ and Wilder were doing nothing however. It wasn't a conversation of Tyson Fury, who actually had accomplishments in the division. Who beat Klitschko. It was two guys who liked to beat up on cans their whole life. Those dudes had to do 50-50. Their body of work in the division was the same. But I don't believe I spoke anything about money when it came to those two, I favored AJ over Wilder (until I saw AJ unable to deal with sluggers) but that's it. Crawford-Spence will have to be 50-50 to get done because of their egos. But realistically, on body of work, Spence with potentially 3 belts and a resume of top 10 welters beaten should get a bigger cut, objectively, over Crawford with 1 belt and less than stellar 147 resume. It's not even a case like Pacquiao coming up beating MAB, Morales, Marquez, ODLH and Hatton before fighting the top WWs and earning significantly more than the top WWs either. If Crawford had that on his resume. It'd be different, even if Spence had a better 147 resume. But the one difference between you and I is that you are calling Spence a fraud, while I am giving Crawford respect while being honest about his less than stellar resume at 147.

Ok, your opinion. Got it. Why don't you call Massa Bob and Terence, and tell them to accept the 60/40 then, so your opinion can be validated? :dunno: Unlike you, I'm talking facts though. One dude said he'd want 60/40 based on the numbers, but he's willing to negotiate. The other dude says he wants 60/40 his way, or the fight ain't happening. And IN YOUR OPINION, the first guy's ducking...got it. Sensible guy. Moving right along.... Both guys have said 60-40 or no fight. That is fact not my opinion. Also Spence says he has achieved more than Crawford and that is factually wrong, very wrong. Massa Bob is nearly as bad as massa Al. Can't stand either of them. But my opinion is over the past few years it is Spence who don't want that smoke and that opinion is based on the FACTS that Spence wouldnt fight until Bud had a belt and so Bud got a belt then Spence wouldn't fight unless he crossed the street and then Spence said Bud was being put right to the back of some queue and even now he's putting distance between them. And I've taken in to account what both fighters have had to say, I'm a bit annoyed that Bud wants 60% cuz in my opinion he isn't worth it but that aside all the negativity towards this match up over 2 years of interviews and statements has come from Spence. Bud wants it but isn't being cometely realistic, Spence just don't want it.

Misinformation? What misinformation? I've given my OPINION and my opinion is Spence doesn't want to fight Crawford and if Crawford accepted 60/40 that would not get Spence in the ring. Spence and master Al know Crawford beats him and takes his belts, IN MY OPINION. Ok, your opinion. Got it. Why don't you call Massa Bob and Terence, and tell them to accept the 60/40 then, so your opinion can be validated? :dunno: Unlike you, I'm talking facts though. One dude said he'd want 60/40 based on the numbers, but he's willing to negotiate. The other dude says he wants 60/40 his way, or the fight ain't happening. And IN YOUR OPINION, the first guy's ducking...got it. Sensible guy. Moving right along....

That's goofy. Take away the names and just look at what each fighter has done in the division and you will see who actually deserves more than 50-50. No Name Fighter: IBF champion (w), WBA (regular) champion (w), IBF mandatory ww (w), top 10 ww (w), WBC champion (w), next fight is a top 10 ww (tbd). No Name Fighter: WBO champion (w), outside top 10 ww (w), outside to 10 ww (w), outside top 10 ww (w), outside top 10 ww (w) Who would actually get the higher split OBJECTIVELY? The guy who is actually fighting top fighters and winning, that's who. That's Crawford's fault, plain and simple. He's choosing nabf title holders instead of actual competition. That's on him and he has given himself no leverage in money talks. Blame Top Rank if you want but it doesn't matter, he still agreed to fight these nobodies. However, as I am generally unbiased, I will say, to make Spence-Crawford happen, they will most likely have to agree to 50-50 because of egos. Even if OBJECTIVELY, one fighter does have a bigger claim to majority of the purse split. But I already knew this fight would get held up over money because 1 man was clearly doing nothing but taking easy fights. While the other was beating legitimate boxers while collecting belts. I actually believe Spence deserves the higher split based on his drawing power being higher than Crawford and him having more world titles than Crawford at 147. Its just a shame that you are one of those that argued the complete opposite when it came to Anthony Joshua and Deontay Wilder, when it was Wilder and AJ none of that mattered. 180 degree turn on that narrative I've noticed from PBC fans.

Spoken like a true casual who only watches boxing when a big fight is coming up, or when you get a notification on your phone... Even worse, don't claim to be a fan of a fighter, as if it adds credibility to your ignorant view points. Spence was asked whether he'd want 60-40, and he responded, "based on the numbers, yeah." Crawford has done 2 ppvs which COMBINED, haven't equaled HALF of one of Spence's. Anybody who argues that is a complete idiot. But what Spence also said, that nobody mentions, is that it's about "sitting down at the table and negotiating." I've only heard one dude in the last week say the fight isn't happening, and it wasn't Errol. Direct your misinformation somewhere else. Misinformation? What misinformation? I've given my OPINION and my opinion is Spence doesn't want to fight Crawford and if Crawford accepted 60/40 that would not get Spence in the ring. Spence and master Al know Crawford beats him and takes his belts, IN MY OPINION.

Spence said he would need a 60-40 split. If Bud accepted that then a brand new road block would come up from Spence. Sounds like I'm going in on him, I'm actually a fan of Spence, but it really is just how it looks and how it sounds. He just don't want that smoke at all. Spoken like a true casual who only watches boxing when a big fight is coming up, or when you get a notification on your phone... Even worse, don't claim to be a fan of a fighter, as if it adds credibility to your ignorant view points. Spence was asked whether he'd want 60-40, and he responded, "based on the numbers, yeah." Crawford has done 2 ppvs which COMBINED, haven't equaled HALF of one of Spence's. Anybody who argues that is a complete idiot. But what Spence also said, that nobody mentions, is that it's about "sitting down at the table and negotiating." I've only heard one dude in the last week say the fight isn't happening, and it wasn't Errol. Direct your misinformation somewhere else.

Spence first demanded 6040 vs Bud earlier this week (he is already making his duck moves because he knows Haymon has Garcia rigged to play soft). So then wisely Bud said he is demanding 6040 vs spence. Of course he has to do that so both compromise to the fair 5050 everybody knows is this is a 5050 fight. Bud will compromise and say Ok let's do 5050 but for sure Spence the fraud pretender, will not and keep blocking the fight with 6040 demands to kill the fight he really does not want. That's goofy. Take away the names and just look at what each fighter has done in the division and you will see who actually deserves more than 50-50. No Name Fighter: IBF champion (w), WBA (regular) champion (w), IBF mandatory ww (w), top 10 ww (w), WBC champion (w), next fight is a top 10 ww (tbd). No Name Fighter: WBO champion (w), outside top 10 ww (w), outside to 10 ww (w), outside top 10 ww (w), outside top 10 ww (w) Who would actually get the higher split OBJECTIVELY? The guy who is actually fighting top fighters and winning, that's who. That's Crawford's fault, plain and simple. He's choosing nabf title holders instead of actual competition. That's on him and he has given himself no leverage in money talks. Blame Top Rank if you want but it doesn't matter, he still agreed to fight these nobodies. However, as I am generally unbiased, I will say, to make Spence-Crawford happen, they will most likely have to agree to 50-50 because of egos. Even if OBJECTIVELY, one fighter does have a bigger claim to majority of the purse split. But I already knew this fight would get held up over money because 1 man was clearly doing nothing but taking easy fights. While the other was beating legitimate boxers while collecting belts.

I dont know what's on either man's mind but both of them should be trying to get this fight made. The fans want it. This might be the most desirable matchup that can be made in boxing today. Both men need this victory in order to elevate their status and for their legacy. A Crawford win over Spence could help him go from "very good" to "elite". A Spence victory would go a long ways towards the same. Both fighters could possibly become household names with a victory in a fight like this. The winner becomes number #1 p4p

I don't know why people act goofy when it comes to this topic. Spence literally said, on camera and to Crawford's face, he is going to take all the other belts FIRST and then fight Crawford. Even Crawford said "you're smart.... but not that smart." Yet people are still acting dazed and confused, saying "Spence doesn't want Crawford." He's literally stated what he was going to do and so far, he has not deviated from his words at all.

We’re seeing these fighters undergarments too often. I never remember my father talking about purse splits back in his day. We shouldn’t know all of this information about splits and the inner workings of negotiations, it really seems like a ploy to allow things to fall through. I didn’t hear about Canelo smith negotiations, boom fights done. Didn’t hear about Crawford brook negotiations, boom fights done. I heard about Lopez Loma negotiations, then when things died down, boom fights done. I always heard about Joshua wilder negotiations tho

Pretty much how I see it too. If Spence loses the whole PBC project failed. Thats also why Jermell isnt rematching Harrisom and why Jermall dont fight nobody Jermell rematched Harrison and got his belt back