Top rank is the biggest force in boxing

Old Bob has: Tyson Fury Beterbiev Crawford Lomachenko Inoue I believe Top rank is the most dominant promoting force in boxing right now? Tyson has come at big losses for them, but Tyson's also said many times he has a few more fights then he's done with boxing. He's just looking for the AJ money stakes and he's done. Crawford doesnt do big numbers. Betebiev is 35 and he isnt in a glamour division. the only top fight left for him is Bivol and it wont do big numbers. Bob Arum is 88, turning 89. The reason why Bob Arum has invested a lot of money in the past couple of years is because 1) pbc were running everything. it would take a LOT of money to dethrone them. Then dazn came along. espn/tr figured they'd also spend, looks like a 2 way attack on pbc. 2) to increase the BRAND value of TR and then sell it to a private investor, preffrebly an oligarch or an arab sheikh. Even espn's affiliation with mtk global was to get connected to the gulf arabs. so far bob has tried, but it hasnt worked out. mtk global have lost their connection to the gulf arabs, but then TR have tried to renew that connection. HE wants AJ-Fury in Dubai. Eddie wants it in Saudi. Still, if an arab sheikh does buy Top Rank, they're taking over and it wont have anything to do with Bob, he'll be gone. It'll just be a brand with new owners. However due to the current climate, the arabs are also tightening the purse strings like everyone else. What if GBP split from dazn now and actually end up getting bought out by a billionaire?

I enjoy Top Rank and their roster but sometimes I feel like their cards can be lackluster quite often and sometimes just straight up awful. PBC also has a pretty good list of guys.

:lol1: You are either joking or trolling right? The PBC smashes the competition in boxing. They have over 200 fighters currently signed to their roster. On the other hand, Top Rank, Golden Boy Promotions and Matchroom USA don't even come to close to what the PBC has to offer; Which is why Canelo is about sign with them pending his lawsuit. Also, Golden Boy and Matchroom USA could be on their way out of business because word has it that DAZN is closing shop stateside as they look to expand its headquarters globally.Which way Canelo jumps is a significant factor in the power balance, I heard someone suggest he might go to ESPN based on social media activity but can't actually find any evidence in support. Either way Als strategy with PBC was to develop strength in depth over just a coupla of divisions, dominating 147 and 154, which allows for many top fights to be made in those divisions, but the PBC roster lacks enough elite fighters in other divisions to consistently make top fights for 'em. FWIW I think it's a solid strategy for attempting to take control of the US market... focusing on narrow strength in depth as a platform to build upon rather than diluting the talent accross multiple divisions, but it might not be a strong internationally. Most importantly wirthout Canelo PBC may fail to draw the Mexican - American market quite as effectively given PBCs heavier focus on Black boxers. However if Canelo goes to PBC that changes things very significantly.

The fact that you listed Beterbiev instead of Teofimo Lopez and Shakur Stevenson is just head scratching....

TR has good talent, but in terms of starpower, they absolutely lucked into Fury. Without him, they don't have anybody. Despite having 2 of the best P4P fighters in their prime (Bud and Loma), TR has struggled to build them up for various reasons.

Of course it is. Was saying this a year ago. Top Rank is the Death Row records of boxing. They have everyone that matters and they run the industry. You don't have to wash Arums testicles because he has your hero under contract. Of the four biggest draws in boxing (Canelo, AJ, Pac and ggg) how many are signed with Top Rank?

Old Bob has: Tyson Fury Beterbiev Crawford Lomachenko Inoue I believe Top rank is the most dominant promoting force in boxing right now? Of course it is. Was saying this a year ago. Top Rank is the Death Row records of boxing. They have everyone that matters and they run the industry.

TR is strong outside the US, particularly in SE Asia and Oceania.

Actually you are right :lol1: The Bob Father :hail: 200 years old and still going strong.

Old Bob has: Tyson Fury Beterbiev Crawford Lomachenko Inoue I believe Top rank is the most dominant promoting force in boxing right now? The important question is how many of those fighters will have meaningful fights more times than not? Same applies with Haymon / PBC. You can have a rich roster but if certain guys aren't fighting top level talent, what does it really matter? Tyson Fury is the only guy under Bob who can say he's done something close to 1 Mill PPV buys (with Wilder). Lomachenko's in a good fight and Crawford can't land a notable fight at Welterweight. So in the end it's really about the match ups you can put your fighters in to build their brand even bigger.

Top Rank sucks, when the “biggest” boxing promotion in the USA can’t pay one of its marquee fighter in the company a extra $800k to make a fight that everybody wants to see you have to question how good top rank and Arum are doing? Arum is the worst

Old Bob has: Tyson Fury Beterbiev Crawford Lomachenko Inoue I believe Top rank is the most dominant promoting force in boxing right now? Also has Taylor/Ramirez and young studs like Lopez and Stevenson. Top Rank will always have a stacked roster. They are a bit top heavy, but you can argue they six or seven of the top 20 fighters in the world.

Old Bob has: Tyson Fury Beterbiev Crawford Lomachenko Inoue I believe Top rank is the most dominant promoting force in boxing right now?:lol1: You are either joking or trolling right? The PBC smashes the competition in boxing. They have over 200 fighters currently signed to their roster. On the other hand, Top Rank, Golden Boy Promotions and Matchroom USA don't even come to close to what the PBC has to offer; Which is why Canelo is about sign with them pending his lawsuit. Also, Golden Boy and Matchroom USA could be on their way out of business because word has it that DAZN is closing shop stateside as they look to expand its headquarters globally.

He has the key fighters in most of the popular weight classes but lacks depth in his roster. He’s having hard time to get dance partners for most of them

Good roster, but in terms of numbers/popularity TR is not doing well.