Top 150 Boxers of All-Time - My Personal List

Wrong!!!! They are not on the same tier and I’m pretty sure most experts would agree Chavez ranks considerably greater p4p than Oscar does. Also Chavez has beaten HOF Edwin Rosario who if you know anything about him was considered one of the best lw at the time and ranked one of the greatest pinchers ever Chavez destroyed him. Prime Camacho not an old one like the one Oscar or Tito faced. And many more future hof will be inducted from Chavez resume. Like I said it’s youre list everyone has one but it’s flawed big time. Alotta those old timers wouldn’t be top 20 in the modern era plain n simple. Again Floyd belongs somewhere in the high teens to low 20’s. Chavez belongs a lot closer to the top 10 Duran should be within top 5. I agree with pretty much everything on this post . Facts . But I think that the old timers could be top 20 in the modern era for the reason that they would train the same way as modern greats if they came up now and there were no doubt some great athletes/ students of the game back in the day , it was just a very differnt sport then , but they would also be in differnt weight classes etc these days . This is why I like the IBOF way of doing things like I said above . The cut off date being 1943 I believe . Well I dont agree with the OP's list , i respect his opinion and the time he put into it . When i do lists I always end up changing it alot as I go on , and studying deeper and learning new things that change my picks ( that's half the fun of these things , the knowledge of the sport you get from it ). That being said I think the OP will prolly learn some stuff from this thread that is going to change his list I would assume. Good topic none the less always lots to talk about and learn with all time lists . They are novelties but they are fun .

Why is Azumah Nelson so low? I would also probably flip Lewis and Spinks.

Thank god it’s you’re personal list because it’s not very good. Chavez way too high and Floyd way too low lol And Oscar ahead of Chavez lol Greb was so robotic and stiff by today standards it’s comical to have him anywhere near the top 10 lol They are on the same tier. Oscar went from 130 to 154. Plus he Fought Mayweather past his prime and made a good account of himself. Oscar has an underrated resume at WW. JCC did not beat any hall of famer but his lightweight career is legendary.

I agree. the only way to properly compare these greats with modern fighters via accomplishments and resume is to break the old timers resumes down . Eg. How many champs faced ( records against them ) , how many HOF fighters faced etc . You have to leave out the head to head part with any of these old timers without footage because it's purely speculation based off writers opinions ( like u stated ) . This takes ALOT of work to compile a list like that . This is why I prefer to break it down into eras like the IBOH ( I believe the do pre 1943 and post 1943 if iam not mistaken ??). Not sure if the OP broke down said records like that as it takes alot of time!!! Hence why I have never dove deeper than top 25 when doing this for myself . Kudos for the topic and the work you put in OP. My list would look quite differnt but contain alot of the same names , but there is no way any all time lists with 150 fighters is going to be fully agreed on by two people to a tee , but Either way great post !!! If I had the time to do so I would rock a top 25 for you asap but i work too much . One day I will becuase I havent done so in ages and unfortunately dont have a copy of any of the lists I've done and the forum I posted them on is now gone . Sent him Green for the effort no doubt. But when names get bandied about in such high regard, it's....nonsense (sorry OP). I hope to be alive when our guys get talked about.

IMHO, much can be accomplished if one's resume is weak. So let's take a look :) Greb, Charles, Langford, Walker, Gans, etc....AKA ''100+ Win Crew'' - Seems like a compiler. Which most of the Golden Oldies are. Greb fought 25x in 1925 :lol1: FOH Of those 25, you know MAYBE he fought 3 quality guys....MAYBE. Same with the other names. How can we grade guys we have never actually seen (unless you have that dope collection) ? IMHO, ATG lists should be broken up like its done in IBHO. The ''put up yer dukes'' era :lol1: !!!! We all laugh at Wllder, though. Fans say in 50 yrs or so, our guys will be mocked, but at least there will be footage. No one has to depend on overly excited beat writers. I agree. the only way to properly compare these greats with modern fighters via accomplishments and resume is to break the old timers resumes down . Eg. How many champs faced ( records against them ) , how many HOF fighters faced etc . You have to leave out the head to head part with any of these old timers without footage because it's purely speculation based off writers opinions ( like u stated ) . This takes ALOT of work to compile a list like that . This is why I prefer to break it down into eras like the IBOH ( I believe the do pre 1943 and post 1943 if iam not mistaken ??). Not sure if the OP broke down said records like that as it takes alot of time!!! Hence why I have never dove deeper than top 25 when doing this for myself . Kudos for the topic and the work you put in OP. My list would look quite differnt but contain alot of the same names , but there is no way any all time lists with 150 fighters is going to be fully agreed on by two people to a tee , but Either way great post !!! If I had the time to do so I would rock a top 25 for you asap but i work too much . One day I will becuase I havent done so in ages and unfortunately dont have a copy of any of the lists I've done and the forum I posted them on is now gone .

This is my personal list of top 150 Boxers of all-time. personally i use this criteria: accomplishment, resume, historical significance, overall ability dominance, longetivity and mainsteam appeal I consider top 100 to be ATGs while 101-120 to be borderline ATG... 1 Sugar Ray Robinson 2 Muhammad Ali 3 Harry Greb 4 Ezzard Charles 5 Henry Armstrong 6 Sam Langford 7 Manny Pacquiao 8 Roberto Duran 9 Floyd Mayweather Jr. 10 Archie Moore 11 Sugar Ray Leonard 12 Joe Louis 13 Willie Pep 14 Bob Fitzsimmons 15 Benny Leonard 16 Gene Tunney 17 Marvin Hagler 18 Barney Ross 19 Roy Jones Jr. 20 Carlos Monzon 21 Pernell Whitaker 22 Bernard Hopkins 23 Mickey Walker 24 Joe Gans 25 Tony Canzoneri 26 Evander Holyfield 27 Sandy Saddler 28 Jimmy Wilde 29 Eder Jofre 30 Jimmy McLarnin 31 Michael Spinks 32 Tommy Hearns 33 Rocky Marciano 34 Tommy Loughran 35 Alexis Arguello 36 Stanley Ketchel 37 Emile Griffith 38 Jose Napoles 39 Kid Gavilan 40 Charley Burley 41 Jack Dempsey 42 Joe Walcott 43 Holman Williams 44 Oscar De La Hoya 45 Julio Cesar Chavez 46 Ike Williams 47 Billy Conn 48 Terry McGovern 49 Bob Foster 50 Salvador Sanchez 51 Lennox Lewis 52 Larry Holmes 53 Erik Morales 54 Jake LaMotta 55 Juan Manuel Marquez 56 Marco Antonio Barrera 57 Packey McFarland 58 Panama Al Brown 59 Abe Attell 60 Tommy Ryan 61 Fighting Harada 62 Ruben Olivares 63 Jack Johnson 64 George Foreman 65 Dick Tiger 66 Joe Frazier 67 Carlos Ortiz 68 Pancho Villa 69 Felix Trinidad 70 Mike Gibbons 71 Joe Calzaghe 72 Ricardo Lopez 73 Mike Tyson 74 Wilfredo Gomez 75 Carmen Basilio 76 Jack Britton 77 Ted Kid Lewis 78 Tommy Gibbons 79 Wladimir Klitschko 80 Andre Ward 81 Canelo Alvarez 82 Roman Gonzalez 83 Shane Mosley 84 Aaron Pryor 85 Manuel Ortiz 86 James Toney 87 Freddie Welsh 88 Kid Chocolate 89 Fidel LaBarba 90 Vitali Klitschko 91 Marcel Cerdan 92 Wilfred Benitez 93 Tiger Flowers 94 George Dixon 95 Nonito Donaire 96 Vicente Saldivar 97 Pete Herman 98 Luis Manuel Rodriguez 99 Carlos Zarate 100 Lou Ambers 101 Gennady Golovkin 102 Flash Elorde 103 Pascual Perez 104 Joe Brown 105 Johnny Kilbane 106 Frankie Genaro 107 Harold Johnson 108 Maxie Rosenbloom 109 Sonny Liston 110 Jimmy Bivins 111 Benny Lynch 112 Pongsaklek Wonjongkam 113 Miguel Canto 114 Tony Zale 115 Freedie Steele 116 Winky Wright 117 Miguel Cotto 118 Beau Jack 119 Johnny Dundee 120 Jack Dillon 121 Kostya Tszyu 122 Young Corbett III 123 Freddie Miller 124 Azumah Nelson 125 Lloyd Marshall 126 Baby Arizmendi 127 Jim Driscoll 128 Sergio Martinez 129 Midget Wolgast 130 Gene Fullmer 131 Eusebio Pedroza 132 Khaosai Galaxy 133 John Henry Lewis 134 Philadelphia Jack O'Brien 135 Timothy Bradley 136 Nino Benvenuti 137 Mike McCallum 138 Antonio Cervantes 139 Bob Montgomery 140 Harry Wills 141 Terence Crawford 142 Nicolino Locche 143 Ricky Hatton 144 Rafael Marquez 145 Tyson Fury 146 Duillio Loi 147 Israel Vasquez 148 Jung-Koo Chang 149 Jimmy Barry 150 Battling Nelson IMHO, much can be accomplished if one's resume is weak. So let's take a look :) Greb, Charles, Langford, Walker, Gans, etc....AKA ''100+ Win Crew'' - Seems like a compiler. Which most of the Golden Oldies are. Greb fought 25x in 1925 :lol1: FOH Of those 25, you know MAYBE he fought 3 quality guys....MAYBE. Same with the other names. How can we grade guys we have never actually seen (unless you have that dope collection) ? IMHO, ATG lists should be broken up like its done in IBHO. The ''put up yer dukes'' era :lol1: !!!! We all laugh at Wllder, though. Fans say in 50 yrs or so, our guys will be mocked, but at least there will be footage. No one has to depend on overly excited beat writers.

What! No Jeff Fenech lol. Kudos to making the list, but how on earth he actually made it, no idea. Amazing effort.

They both belong in the top 10 oat list. Bar none. Solid list. I’d rearrange a few here and there but overall great list. you are just a fkn idiot... just the latest shlthead casual to join boxingscene lol seen it all before

This is my personal list of top 150 Boxers of all-time. personally i use this criteria: accomplishment, resume, historical significance, overall ability dominance, longetivity and mainsteam appeal I consider top 100 to be ATGs while 101-120 to be borderline ATG... 01 Sugar Ray Robinson 02 Muhammad Ali 03 Harry Greb 04 Ezzard Charles 05 Henry Armstrong 06 Sam Langford 07 Manny Pacquiao 08 Roberto Duran 09 Floyd Mayweather Jr. 10 Archie Moore 11 Sugar Ray Leonard 12 Joe Louis 13 Willie Pep 14 Bob Fitzsimmons 15 Benny Leonard 16 Gene Tunney 17 Marvin Hagler 18 Barney Ross 19 Roy Jones Jr. 20 Carlos Monzon 21 Pernell Whitaker 22 Bernard Hopkins 23 Mickey Walker 24 Joe Gans 25 Tony Canzoneri 26 Evander Holyfield 27 Sandy Saddler 28 Jimmy Wilde 29 Eder Jofre 30 Jimmy McLarnin 31 Michael Spinks 32 Tommy Hearns 33 Rocky Marciano 34 Tommy Loughran 35 Alexis Arguello 36 Stanley Ketchel 37 Emile Griffith 38 Jose Napoles 39 Kid Gavilan 40 Charley Burley 41 Joe Walcott 42 Holman Williams 43 Oscar De La Hoya 44 Julio Cesar Chavez 45 Jack Dempsey 46 Ike Williams 47 Billy Conn 48 Terry McGovern 49 Bob Foster 50 Salvador Sanchez 51 Lennox Lewis 52 Larry Holmes 53 Felix Trinidad 54 Erik Morales 55 Jake LaMotta 56 Juan Manuel Marquez 57 Marco Antonio Barrera 58 Packey McFarland 59 Panama Al Brown 60 Abe Attell 61 Tommy Ryan 62 Fighting Harada 63 Ruben Olivares 64 Jack Johnson 65 George Foreman 66 Dick Tiger 67 Joe Frazier 68 Carlos Ortiz 69 Pancho Villa 70 Mike Gibbons 71 Joe Calzaghe 72 Ricardo Lopez 73 Mike Tyson 74 Carmen Basilio 75 Jack Britton 76 Ted Kid Lewis 77 Tommy Gibbons 78 Wilfredo Gomez 79 Wladimir Klitschko 80 Andre Ward 81 Canelo Alvarez 82 Roman Gonzalez 83 Shane Mosley 84 Aaron Pryor 85 Manuel Ortiz 86 James Toney 87 Freddie Welsh 88 Kid Chocolate 89 Fidel LaBarba 90 Vitali Klitschko 91 Marcel Cerdan 92 Wilfred Benitez 93 Tiger Flowers 94 George Dixon 95 Nonito Donaire 96 Vicente Saldivar 97 Pete Herman 98 Luis Manuel Rodriguez 99 Carlos Zarate 100 Lou Ambers 101 Gennady Golovkin 102 Flash Elorde 103 Pascual Perez 104 Joe Brown 105 Johnny Kilbane 106 Frankie Genaro 107 Harold Johnson 108 Maxie Rosenbloom 109 Sonny Liston 110 Jimmy Bivins 111 Benny Lynch 112 Pongsaklek Wonjongkam 113 Miguel Canto 114 Tony Zale 115 Freedie Steele 116 Winky Wright 117 Miguel Cotto 118 Beau Jack 119 Johnny Dundee 120 Jack Dillon 121 Kostya Tszyu 122 Young Corbett III 123 Freddie Miller 124 Azumah Nelson 125 Lloyd Marshall 126 Baby Arizmendi 127 Jim Driscoll 128 Sergio Martinez 129 Midget Wolgast 130 Gene Fullmer 131 Eusebio Pedroza 132 Khaosai Galaxy 133 John Henry Lewis 134 Philadelphia Jack O'Brien 135 Timothy Bradley 136 Nino Benvenuti 137 Mike McCallum 138 Antonio Cervantes 139 Bob Montgomery 140 Harry Wills 141 Terence Crawford 142 Nicolino Locche 143 Ricky Hatton 144 Rafael Marquez 145 Tyson Fury 146 Duillio Loi 147 Israel Vasquez 148 Jung-Koo Chang 149 Jimmy Barry 150 Battling Nelson - -Clearly Battle Nelson in the top 10. U been inhalin' again?

31 Michael Spinks 51 Lennox Lewis :lol1: :lol1:

This is my personal list of top 150 Boxers of all-time. personally i use this criteria: accomplishment, resume, historical significance, overall ability dominance, longetivity and mainsteam appeal I consider top 100 to be ATGs while 101-120 to be borderline ATG... 01 Sugar Ray Robinson 02 Muhammad Ali 03 Harry Greb 04 Ezzard Charles 05 Henry Armstrong 06 Sam Langford 07 Manny Pacquiao 08 Roberto Duran 09 Floyd Mayweather Jr. 10 Archie Moore 11 Sugar Ray Leonard 12 Joe Louis 13 Willie Pep 14 Bob Fitzsimmons 15 Benny Leonard 16 Gene Tunney 17 Marvin Hagler 18 Barney Ross 19 Roy Jones Jr. 20 Carlos Monzon 21 Pernell Whitaker 22 Bernard Hopkins 23 Mickey Walker 24 Joe Gans 25 Tony Canzoneri 26 Evander Holyfield 27 Sandy Saddler 28 Jimmy Wilde 29 Eder Jofre 30 Jimmy McLarnin 31 Michael Spinks 32 Tommy Hearns 33 Rocky Marciano 34 Tommy Loughran 35 Alexis Arguello 36 Stanley Ketchel 37 Emile Griffith 38 Jose Napoles 39 Kid Gavilan 40 Charley Burley 41 Joe Walcott 42 Holman Williams 43 Oscar De La Hoya 44 Julio Cesar Chavez 45 Jack Dempsey 46 Ike Williams 47 Billy Conn 48 Terry McGovern 49 Bob Foster 50 Salvador Sanchez 51 Lennox Lewis 52 Larry Holmes 53 Felix Trinidad 54 Erik Morales 55 Jake LaMotta 56 Juan Manuel Marquez 57 Marco Antonio Barrera 58 Packey McFarland 59 Panama Al Brown 60 Abe Attell 61 Tommy Ryan 62 Fighting Harada 63 Ruben Olivares 64 Jack Johnson 65 George Foreman 66 Dick Tiger 67 Joe Frazier 68 Carlos Ortiz 69 Pancho Villa 70 Mike Gibbons 71 Joe Calzaghe 72 Ricardo Lopez 73 Mike Tyson 74 Carmen Basilio 75 Jack Britton 76 Ted Kid Lewis 77 Tommy Gibbons 78 Wilfredo Gomez 79 Wladimir Klitschko 80 Andre Ward 81 Canelo Alvarez 82 Roman Gonzalez 83 Shane Mosley 84 Aaron Pryor 85 Manuel Ortiz 86 James Toney 87 Freddie Welsh 88 Kid Chocolate 89 Fidel LaBarba 90 Vitali Klitschko 91 Marcel Cerdan 92 Wilfred Benitez 93 Tiger Flowers 94 George Dixon 95 Nonito Donaire 96 Vicente Saldivar 97 Pete Herman 98 Luis Manuel Rodriguez 99 Carlos Zarate 100 Lou Ambers 101 Gennady Golovkin 102 Flash Elorde 103 Pascual Perez 104 Joe Brown 105 Johnny Kilbane 106 Frankie Genaro 107 Harold Johnson 108 Maxie Rosenbloom 109 Sonny Liston 110 Jimmy Bivins 111 Benny Lynch 112 Pongsaklek Wonjongkam 113 Miguel Canto 114 Tony Zale 115 Freedie Steele 116 Winky Wright 117 Miguel Cotto 118 Beau Jack 119 Johnny Dundee 120 Jack Dillon 121 Kostya Tszyu 122 Young Corbett III 123 Freddie Miller 124 Azumah Nelson 125 Lloyd Marshall 126 Baby Arizmendi 127 Jim Driscoll 128 Sergio Martinez 129 Midget Wolgast 130 Gene Fullmer 131 Eusebio Pedroza 132 Khaosai Galaxy 133 John Henry Lewis 134 Philadelphia Jack O'Brien 135 Timothy Bradley 136 Nino Benvenuti 137 Mike McCallum 138 Antonio Cervantes 139 Bob Montgomery 140 Harry Wills 141 Terence Crawford 142 Nicolino Locche 143 Ricky Hatton 144 Rafael Marquez 145 Tyson Fury 146 Duillio Loi 147 Israel Vasquez 148 Jung-Koo Chang 149 Jimmy Barry 150 Battling Nelson Interesting list...are there active fighters that would make say, your top 50 as is? If so, who and where would you slot them in?

what fkn nonsense... you copied a list off the internet, and then you added Pac as high as you thought you could add him without being called a ****head... and then you snuck Mayweather in a few places lower lol not falling for that obvious nonsense you pac-clowns need to grow up and get a life no way is Pacquiao ranked higher than Armstrong, Duran, Leonard, Moore, Mayweather, Pep, Tunney... GTFOH like I said yesterday... Mayweather is likely top 15'ish, maybe higher... Pac is likely top 25'ish, maybe higher 1)You’re a troll. 2)YDKSAB. 3)You’re a troll.

why Floyd and manny ranked so high. 1st time I seen someone who isn’t a fanboy have them within the top 10 They both belong in the top 10 oat list. Bar none. Solid list. I’d rearrange a few here and there but overall great list.

Fair play for the list. Not bad at all. James Toney above Harold Johnson. How?

why Floyd and manny ranked so high. 1st time I seen someone who isn’t a fanboy have them within the top 10 Oscar too high. Super solid list though sir.

This is my personal list of top 150 Boxers of all-time. personally i use this criteria: accomplishment, resume, historical significance, overall ability dominance, longetivity and mainsteam appeal I consider top 100 to be ATGs while 101-120 to be borderline ATG... 01 Sugar Ray Robinson 02 Muhammad Ali 03 Harry Greb 04 Ezzard Charles 05 Henry Armstrong 06 Sam Langford 07 Manny Pacquiao 08 Roberto Duran 09 Floyd Mayweather Jr. 10 Archie Moore 11 Sugar Ray Leonard 12 Joe Louis 13 Willie Pep 14 Bob Fitzsimmons 15 Benny Leonard 16 Gene Tunney 17 Marvin Hagler 18 Barney Ross 19 Roy Jones Jr. 20 Carlos Monzon 21 Pernell Whitaker 22 Bernard Hopkins 23 Mickey Walker 24 Joe Gans 25 Tony Canzoneri 26 Evander Holyfield 27 Sandy Saddler 28 Jimmy Wilde 29 Eder Jofre 30 Jimmy McLarnin 31 Michael Spinks 32 Tommy Hearns 33 Rocky Marciano 34 Tommy Loughran 35 Alexis Arguello 36 Stanley Ketchel 37 Emile Griffith 38 Jose Napoles 39 Kid Gavilan 40 Charley Burley 41 Joe Walcott 42 Holman Williams 43 Oscar De La Hoya 44 Julio Cesar Chavez 45 Jack Dempsey 46 Ike Williams 47 Billy Conn 48 Terry McGovern 49 Bob Foster 50 Salvador Sanchez 51 Lennox Lewis 52 Larry Holmes 53 Felix Trinidad 54 Erik Morales 55 Jake LaMotta 56 Juan Manuel Marquez 57 Marco Antonio Barrera 58 Packey McFarland 59 Panama Al Brown 60 Abe Attell 61 Tommy Ryan 62 Fighting Harada 63 Ruben Olivares 64 Jack Johnson 65 George Foreman 66 Dick Tiger 67 Joe Frazier 68 Carlos Ortiz 69 Pancho Villa 70 Mike Gibbons 71 Joe Calzaghe 72 Ricardo Lopez 73 Mike Tyson 74 Carmen Basilio 75 Jack Britton 76 Ted Kid Lewis 77 Tommy Gibbons 78 Wilfredo Gomez 79 Wladimir Klitschko 80 Andre Ward 81 Canelo Alvarez 82 Roman Gonzalez 83 Shane Mosley 84 Aaron Pryor 85 Manuel Ortiz 86 James Toney 87 Freddie Welsh 88 Kid Chocolate 89 Fidel LaBarba 90 Vitali Klitschko 91 Marcel Cerdan 92 Wilfred Benitez 93 Tiger Flowers 94 George Dixon 95 Nonito Donaire 96 Vicente Saldivar 97 Pete Herman 98 Luis Manuel Rodriguez 99 Carlos Zarate 100 Lou Ambers 101 Gennady Golovkin 102 Flash Elorde 103 Pascual Perez 104 Joe Brown 105 Johnny Kilbane 106 Frankie Genaro 107 Harold Johnson 108 Maxie Rosenbloom 109 Sonny Liston 110 Jimmy Bivins 111 Benny Lynch 112 Pongsaklek Wonjongkam 113 Miguel Canto 114 Tony Zale 115 Freedie Steele 116 Winky Wright 117 Miguel Cotto 118 Beau Jack 119 Johnny Dundee 120 Jack Dillon 121 Kostya Tszyu 122 Young Corbett III 123 Freddie Miller 124 Azumah Nelson 125 Lloyd Marshall 126 Baby Arizmendi 127 Jim Driscoll 128 Sergio Martinez 129 Midget Wolgast 130 Gene Fullmer 131 Eusebio Pedroza 132 Khaosai Galaxy 133 John Henry Lewis 134 Philadelphia Jack O'Brien 135 Timothy Bradley 136 Nino Benvenuti 137 Mike McCallum 138 Antonio Cervantes 139 Bob Montgomery 140 Harry Wills 141 Terence Crawford 142 Nicolino Locche 143 Ricky Hatton 144 Rafael Marquez 145 Tyson Fury 146 Duillio Loi 147 Israel Vasquez 148 Jung-Koo Chang 149 Jimmy Barry 150 Battling Nelson what fkn nonsense... you copied a list off the internet, and then you added Pac as high as you thought you could add him without being called a ****head... and then you snuck Mayweather in a few places lower lol not falling for that obvious nonsense you pac-clowns need to grow up and get a life no way is Pacquiao ranked higher than Armstrong, Duran, Leonard, Moore, Mayweather, Pep, Tunney... GTFOH like I said yesterday... Mayweather is likely top 15'ish, maybe higher... Pac is likely top 25'ish, maybe higher

Bhop is a top 8 MW and had a longevity element to his career. JCC is solid but i have Holyfield, Spinks, Hearns and Arguello between them. Perhaps JCC lacks a big name ATG in his resume unlike others. He is in the same boat as Ike Williams and Oscar Dela Hoya but is significantly higher than fellow lightweights Ortiz and Mosley You have Michael Spinks at 31 and Julio Cesar Chavez at 44 :soapbox: :banghead: :argue:

nice thread i know this took some time.....list looks similar to the old 80 fighters of the last 80s from ring magazine i commend you for putting in this type of work.

So you have Bernard Hopkins at 22 and Julio Cesar Chavez at 44. Sounds legit. Bhop is a top 8 MW and had a longevity element to his career. JCC is solid but i have Holyfield, Spinks, Hearns and Arguello between them. Perhaps JCC lacks a big name ATG in his resume unlike others. He is in the same boat as Ike Williams and Oscar Dela Hoya but is significantly higher than fellow lightweights Ortiz and Mosley

So you have Bernard Hopkins at 22 and Julio Cesar Chavez at 44. Sounds legit.