Did Arum set Manny up in his two controversial losses?

The Bobfather got to make a trilogy after Bradley's gifted W & found a rival to feed Crawford w/ so I wouldn't doubt it

Bob Arum was behind 9/11. https://media.giphy.com/media/svb8tKSIpGfHq/giphy.gif

The Bradley one is possible, but not the Horn one IMO. Crawford would have been WBO #1 contender regardless. Pac goes to PBC with the belt and Crawford is still #1 contender. Pac likely drops the belt. he got robbed by Aussie judges.

Lol my point wasnt about if the fights were robberies. Its about the circumstances surrounding both fights with Arum, and his star fighter conveniently not getting star treatment from the judges.

The Bradley fight was obviously a gigantic setup. You don't get many robberies worse than that.

Those losses greatly affect the later half of his career some mainly haters said he was washed after Bradley and horn but truth is only cheating jmm and Floyd beat ww Manny and they barely beat him...those losses cast a shadow over how great Manny truly was/is

Not even close to a robbery. Pacquiao got battered fair and square. All the Brit pundits had Horn winning. Go cry a ****ing river you gullible fool, shows how simple you guys over the pond are, a few numbers and teddy atlas gets flashed on your screens and you forget what your eyes saw. :lol1: YDKSAB. U need to pick a different sport. Horn was a clear robbery. Fixed from the jump.

Both times Arum seemed to not care, and it benefited him. Arum had tge biggest grin on his face after his star fighter got robbed Was able to build up Bradley and make more money off the rematch Vs Horn he was able to get that belt off Manny and basically give it to Crawford without them fighting conveniently before he left Top Rank Which would have left Arum with no leverage at 147. I hate bringing up Conspiracies. (Cough/ Monzoon) lol But i strongly believe Arum was behind it. Of course he was. That’s why pac left. Enough was enough.

lol @ the posters saying that the horn fight wasnt a robbery but the first bradley/pac fight was??!!! wtf were yall watching? bradley did better against manny in the first fight than horn did against manny! and even if it was a set u by arum, pac agreed to those fights knowing the circumstances around it so i dont feel sorry for him at all.

I don't know about Horn but that Bradley win was complete and utter BS robbery. I would bet Arum told Bradley that would happen in order to get him to sign with TR. Maybe i shud have clarified. The Horn fight was close imo. But my point is, 9/10 the star fighter wins close fights on points. He sure as hell could never lose on points to Marquez who clearly won the 3rd fight. Arum benefited alot from Bradley and Horn getting the W over Manny. If Horn lost, Arum and Crawford would be up shyt creek. No Manny, no belt.

It can't be proven but it's very possible. Both of those fights were terrible robberies.It's hard to believe the judges could scre a fight that far off from what happened in the ring unless they were bribed.

Both times Arum seemed to not care, and it benefited him. Arum had tge biggest grin on his face after his star fighter got robbed Was able to build up Bradley and make more money off the rematch Vs Horn he was able to get that belt off Manny and basically give it to Crawford without them fighting conveniently before he left Top Rank Which would have left Arum with no leverage at 147. I hate bringing up Conspiracies. (Cough/ Monzoon) lol But i strongly believe Arum was behind it. I don't know about Horn but that Bradley win was complete and utter BS robbery. I would bet Arum told Bradley that would happen in order to get him to sign with TR.

Manny was leaving top rank after the Horne fight. Manny was the WBO champ. Manny won that fight. Had he not been Robbed ... PBC would have all the titles in the Welter weight division. Where would that leave Bud Crawford? BUT...Manny was Robbed. And Who did Horne fight next? Crawford! Now TR has a belt holding champ in the WW division. Leverage. So yes. And also with Bradley also. Is contract was up in the end of 2013. So at the end of 2012 he fights Bradley. Gets robbed and is now strapless. If he stays with TR he gets the rematch. He was KOd by JMM fights Rios and then come time to sign with TR again or go on..... he is offered Tim Bradley again. He signs gets the fight and gets his WBO title again. conspiracy? Hell no. Common sense. Clearly he was robbed. When a clear robbery is done like that best believe the motive is money. Considering how that went down as you say, now I'm disgusted how they have Crawford #4 p4p and Pac at #10 p4p. It's ridiculous how most of the media outlets have Crawford #2 welter behind Spence #1 while Pac is #3. Spence deserves to be #1 welter but just look at Crawford's weak welter resume. Pac should be above Crawford. So the WBO title is a gift to Crawford from Arum to keep it in-house. Keep dropping your knowledge in painting the whole bigger picture.

The Bradley fight was a complete setup and robbery. Horn pushed little Pac around and bullied him, although I thought Pac edged the fight, it wasn't nearly as bad as the Bradley 1 debacle.

His case for FOTD would be superb if not those ugly looking losses on his record.

Stick to the topic... Im by no means a fanboy. And this aint about Floyd or Marquez My post is about the thread topic. You believe it was a conspiracy and I laughably do not.

I was at TGI Fridays and got the same responsed It's crazy. That was a robbery. The 2nd fight was closer :lol1:

Both times Arum seemed to not care, and it benefited him. Arum had tge biggest grin on his face after his star fighter got robbed Was able to build up Bradley and make more money off the rematch Vs Horn he was able to get that belt off Manny and basically give it to Crawford without them fighting conveniently before he left Top Rank Which would have left Arum with no leverage at 147. I hate bringing up Conspiracies. (Cough/ Monzoon) lol But i strongly believe Arum was behind it. I agree with promoters are snakes

Nah...Youre probably the only dumbfuk that thinks otherwise. One of Floyds biggest dlck riders agrees. Like your signature pic of Packy fouling Horn, he did plenty of that and still couldn't win.

Horn's win over Pacquiao was totally legitimate. Only Pac fanboys call that a robbery. The pactrads keep running the same conspiracy thing over and over, it's like they are trying to convince themselves their nonsense is true.