In my eyes he beat Shawn Porter who just gave Errol Spence hell.
He also beat Ray Robinson more impressively than Kavaliuskas, who just gave Terence Crawford a good scrap and should have been credited with a knockdown.
Not to mention that he took Omar Figueroa's 0.
He got 3 L's (the Porter fight don't count since it was a robbery) so he's far from being the best yet could pose a challenge to DSG, Pacquiao, Bud & this not so healthy Spence yet I think Keith Thurman destroys him 4 some reason
Oh and don’t forget Crawford also KOed that same Dulorme who gave Ugas and Vargas problems. Making Crawford > Ugas and Vargas
Oh one more thing. Spence refused to fight Ugas so that means Crawford > Spence too. Crawford should be the #1 WW undoubtedly
Yea but Abregu stopped an undefeated Dulorme
And prime Timmy Bradley pretty much dominated Abregu
So that must mean prime Timmy is much better than today's WW. Case closed no more debates.
Ugas is very tough fighter, and should give hell to anyone.
I don't think he's the best at ww, but he's top 5. Porter, to me, has always been that guy who's world level but never beating the best.. So losing to Shawn keeps him away from the top.
Ugas deserves a shot at another top ww for sure. Spence, Crawford, pac
On the other hand, Ugas barely beat the WW version of Dulorme and only won because of the 2 point deductions the refs handed on Dulorme (Dulorme would have won had it not been for the deduction).
Dulorme on the other hand had a hard fought battle and eventually drew with Jessie Vargas
Jessie Vargas prior to the Dulorme fight fought and arguably should have lost a close bout against Adrien Broner.
So it is safe to say that Broner is at least a top 3 WW, if not the best WW in the world base on these compelling evidence.
Oh and don’t forget Crawford also KOed that same Dulorme who gave Ugas and Vargas problems. Making Crawford > Ugas and Vargas
Oh one more thing. Spence refused to fight Ugas so that means Crawford > Spence too. Crawford should be the #1 WW undoubtedly
Isn't Ugas Spence's mandatory?
He was. Spence passed on him to take on a LW. IBF (Spence’s belt) didn’t care anyway. Ugas moved on went to the WBC direction where have faced Porter.
He's the one guy no one wants to face. He's risky and you gain nothing from beating him.
I don't see him getting another crack at the top guys unless he becomes a mandatory.
Shawn Porter didn't fight his normal style against Ugas because Kenny Porter told him that God came to him in his dreams and told him that Ugas can't touch Porter...Because of that, Shawn decided to be an out boxer. If Shawn fights his normal style, I believe he goes through Ugas rather easily.
CasualScene at it again...
No one mentions that the Porter who fought Spence is different than the one who fought Ugas???
Use your eyes boy. Porter came in at his best in his last fight. Against Ugas, he was experimenting bc he clearly underestimated Ugas.
Ugas is solid but he is a second tier fighter. He is missing that extra 20% that separates the contenders from the elites.
Ugas is a high level contender but i dont see him being a threat to the top dogs.he already gave hell to one of the top dogs (porter). I think he would look really good against any top ww.
Ugas is solid but he is a second tier fighter. He is missing that extra 20% that separates the contenders from the elites.
Ugas is a high level contender but i dont see him being a threat to the top dogs.
This is the way I see it. Ugas impressed me with his development, but he’s really just a solid fighter. The best at WW? No way.
Ugas is solid but he is a second tier fighter. He is missing that extra 20% that separates the contenders from the elites.
Ugas is a high level contender but i dont see him being a threat to the top dogs.
I mean, he absolutely schooled Shawn Porter but got robbed on the cards.
Porter is obviously a top dog. Look what he just did against Spence.
Ugas is solid but he is a second tier fighter. He is missing that extra 20% that separates the contenders from the elites.
Ugas is a high level contender but i dont see him being a threat to the top dogs.
On the other hand, Ugas barely beat the WW version of Dulorme and only won because of the 2 point deductions the refs handed on Dulorme (Dulorme would have won had it not been for the deduction).
Dulorme on the other hand had a hard fought battle and eventually drew with Jessie Vargas
Jessie Vargas prior to the Dulorme fight fought and arguably should have lost a close bout against Adrien Broner.
So it is safe to say that Broner is at least a top 3 WW, if not the best WW in the world base on these compelling evidence.
He has come on in leaps and bounds since the Dulorme fight, though.
Nothing wrong with struggling in a bout but then learning and improving from it.