Julian Williams "No fight on Dec14 if Hurd doesn't enroll in VADA ASAP"

Mikey was using SNAC and still looked pudgey. This is a vid of Conte calling out Ortiz and Vada https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yc5QHoaEZ3M Perhaps Ortiz wanted to use the services of a person who knows his stuff and won’t allow positive tests to happen again...who knows? Julian Williams works with SNAC... Victor Conte is a reformed ped dealer. Everyone thinks he is still dealing, which is natural (once a cheat, always a cheat). In my opinion, after serving jail time and having his family visiting the prison and talking through bars would probably be enough to make a white collar criminal stay on the right path because going in for a second time would be for A LOT longer. Memo Heredia on the other hand.... now there’s a plan sight f@#king drug dealing cheat. Look at the very strong circumstantial evidence of Marquez at 40 yrs old. Also, Memo HATES Vada, refuses to work with them. Memo must be the most knowledgable guy around.. from making his own undetectable drugs to becoming a strength and conditioning coach. Not only is he very knowledge in chemistry (his father was a chemistry professor in Mexico City who had his own private lab) but now he gets hired as an expert s&c coach too... man knows a lot! Good post man...I hear what you are saying and don't really disagree...Conte seems a little more on the straight and narrow now, especially compared to Heredia...as you said Conte's association can make you think it is sketchy, yet at the same time can make you think it is legit, for the reasons you stated. I'm just skeptical by nature! conte was an early silent partner for vada. maybe he still is because hes always promoting them I got ya...thanks for the info, very interesting. It could be that there is something nefarious afoot as you suspect but my first take is the opposite. Most trainers don’t know squat about what their fighters should be doing nutritionally. I hope SNAC is on the level because there is a need here that should be met, I keep thinking of that interview with Ruiz where he’s given up the snickers bars for better nutrition, What was his nutritious meal after a tough workout? A club sandwich and some noodle soup. Great post...I especially like the bold Sarcastic. Mikey’s whole fan base were talking a lot of **** going into that fight about how much mass he was putting on. At the weigh in when Mikey took his shirt off the room went silent. He looked like he was eating pizza at the gym, Lol! Got ya, that's really funny...yeah looking at pics of him he didn't seem to fill out much and didn't seem to have the PED physique at all...hope I'm wrong about SNAC, just suspicious...and not just of SNAC just of all of these boxers/athletes unfortunately...not that I really care but just hope it is a somewhat level playing field.

has Hurd responded yet?

Lol at people thinking snac is juicing fighters, fighters will juice regardless of snac, conte, heredia, ariza. But snac sucks anyway, they aren’t juicing no one, conte is making enough money just by pulling in the clientele he is, he’s not going to jeopardize that with juicing guys. Juicers get dependent on the stuff, why we see a guy that failed once fail again, when your test is at an all time high you feel fuking great, off that sht you feel like you want to kill yourself, conte the jello never took anything himself, or not for prolonged periods I’d bet. Heredia I can tell from his bloated face is always on the stuff.

It could be that there is something nefarious afoot as you suspect but my first take is the opposite. Most trainers don’t know squat about what their fighters should be doing nutritionally. I hope SNAC is on the level because there is a need here that should be met, I keep thinking of that interview with Ruiz where he’s given up the snickers bars for better nutrition, What was his nutritious meal after a tough workout? A club sandwich and some noodle soup. That’s why you always hear about these guys hiring nutritionists. You think “shouldn’t they already have one?”

Lol I can't tell if you're being sarcastic...I never have really followed Mikey much :0 I have always liked Luis Ortiz (always liked slick lefties who can box) but when I saw him on the SNAC diet for one of his fights...I just smiled and at that moment my mind was made up that SNAC was very suspicious...hope I'm wrong but I feel like everyone is juicing now lol. Sarcastic. Mikey’s whole fan base were talking a lot of **** going into that fight about how much mass he was putting on. At the weigh in when Mikey took his shirt off the room went silent. He looked like he was eating pizza at the gym,

That SNAC stuff seems to be hiding in plain sight to me...idk maybe it is all above board but the transformation guys make who are associated with SNAC seems very suspicious to me. What connection is there between VADA and SNAC? It could be that there is something nefarious afoot as you suspect but my first take is the opposite. Most trainers don’t know squat about what their fighters should be doing nutritionally. I hope SNAC is on the level because there is a need here that should be met, I keep thinking of that interview with Ruiz where he’s given up the snickers bars for better nutrition, What was his nutritious meal after a tough workout? A club sandwich and some noodle soup.

That SNAC stuff seems to be hiding in plain sight to me...idk maybe it is all above board but the transformation guys make who are associated with SNAC seems very suspicious to me. What connection is there between VADA and SNAC? conte was an early silent partner for vada. maybe he still is because hes always promoting them

Lol I can't tell if you're being sarcastic...I never have really followed Mikey much :0 I have always liked Luis Ortiz (always liked slick lefties who can box) but when I saw him on the SNAC diet for one of his fights...I just smiled and at that moment my mind was made up that SNAC was very suspicious...hope I'm wrong but I feel like everyone is juicing now lol. Mikey was using SNAC and still looked pudgey. This is a vid of Conte calling out Ortiz and Vada https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yc5QHoaEZ3M Perhaps Ortiz wanted to use the services of a person who knows his stuff and won’t allow positive tests to happen again...who knows? Julian Williams works with SNAC... Victor Conte is a reformed ped dealer. Everyone thinks he is still dealing, which is natural (once a cheat, always a cheat). In my opinion, after serving jail time and having his family visiting the prison and talking through bars would probably be enough to make a white collar criminal stay on the right path because going in for a second time would be for A LOT longer. Memo Heredia on the other hand.... now there’s a plan sight f@#king drug dealing cheat. Look at the very strong circumstantial evidence of Marquez at 40 yrs old. Also, Memo HATES Vada, refuses to work with them. Memo must be the most knowledgable guy around.. from making his own undetectable drugs to becoming a strength and conditioning coach. Not only is he very knowledge in chemistry (his father was a chemistry professor in Mexico City who had his own private lab) but now he gets hired as an expert s&c coach too... man knows a lot!

Yeah, Mikey Garcia was a chizzled Adonis when he moved up to 147. Lol I can't tell if you're being sarcastic...I never have really followed Mikey much :0 I have always liked Luis Ortiz (always liked slick lefties who can box) but when I saw him on the SNAC diet for one of his fights...I just smiled and at that moment my mind was made up that SNAC was very suspicious...hope I'm wrong but I feel like everyone is juicing now lol.

That SNAC stuff seems to be hiding in plain sight to me...idk maybe it is all above board but the transformation guys make who are associated with SNAC seems very suspicious to me. What connection is there between VADA and SNAC? Yeah, Mikey Garcia was a chizzled Adonis when he moved up to 147.

i applaud but williams but dont trust the connection between vada and snac That SNAC stuff seems to be hiding in plain sight to me...idk maybe it is all above board but the transformation guys make who are associated with SNAC seems very suspicious to me. What connection is there between VADA and SNAC?

LOL... Last time I checked, VADA was not a requirement during SRR and Armstrong era... Just saying...

I’m with Hurd. Williams can fight a tomato can for pennies and integrity or fight Hurd for millions (or hundreds of thousands). The choice is easy in prizefighting.

It should be mandatory for at least every championship fight!

This fight needs to happen. Hurd better play ball. This isn't just a unified title fight, it should also be for the lineal and Ring titles.

Lol get em champ.

i applaud but williams but dont trust the connection between vada and snac

Damn, william’s don’t even let a brother cycle on for a bit?

williams knows that hurd could just load up on Dianabol and VADA wouldn't catch it, right? :lol1:

Credit to J-Rock more fighters need to follow suit.