The Sport of Boxing is about to be robbed of history (Mikey-Loma) due to dumb logic.

Didn't come here to read the novel but as a Garcia fan, I'm extremely disappointed in his choice. No one gives him a chance. However, many people consider a Loma fight to be highly competitive. These guys who cheer for certain promoters don't realize that they're condoning stupid stuff like Garcia / Spence. Quit being fuk boys for these promoters and demand these guys stop the in house garbage. I think it’s because team Garcia know that if he loses to Spence it’s at least a moral victory because he is jumping up in weight and is the smaller guy where if he loses to Loma Mikey is the bigger guy and he would get sh it for it

Mikey vs loma, spence vs Crawford are the fights. Sick of seeing ppl say it's no risk for mikey cuz he has a built in excuse. How'd that work out for kell brook? He got his face broken and his career ruined...it's ok cuz he was expected to lose doe. Was he supposed to resume his ww career like nothing happened? Spence is just the type of fighter to put sustained punishment on his opponent too...short of mikey winning, the shine will be taken off the loma fight.

Hopefully someone involved in this decision will read this and reassess the reasoning that led them to go down the road of Spence-Mikey before Mikey-Loma and they can still avert making this big mistake. Loma specifically stayed down at 130 for an extra fight so that he could get the exposure from making his one superfight vs a smaller opponent (Rigo) before his next one with a bigger opponent (Mikey) and Mikey would be smart to use the same blueprint, since that Rigo fight is the one that really made Loma cross over to the casual fans and become a household name, resulting in him getting paid a LOT more when he moved up to 135 against the champion there, Linares, than he would have at the time vs Rigo, a blueprint which Mikey would again be smart to study since it parallels him v Spence. Here are the logical fallacies at the heart of the decision to pursue Spence-Mikey instead of Mikey-Loma, which in my OPINION (only my opinion) would be a huge mistake. Basically, people who stand to profit, I assume, from Mikey-Spence, but not from Mikey-Loma, keep trotting out the line that Mikey-Spence is a smart move because if Mikey loses to Spence, he can just say he was too small and still make the Mikey-Loma fight a year later, and it will be just as big. So because of this belief, the sport will be robbed of a historic fight for all 4 belts, undisputed, between the P4P King and by far his most difficult opponent within 6 weight classes. In reality, the opposite of what they are saying is true. If Mikey loses to Loma at 135, he can say Loma was just too small and fast, and if necessary to protect his image for the Spence fight afterwards, Mikey can say he got drained making 135. The Mikey-Spence fight will only be way bigger after Mikey gets the exposure from fighting the P4P King. If Mikey-Loma is as great a fight as we think it will be, they can even do an immediate rematch, and it could become like the next Pacquiao-Marquez rivalry that will make both Loma and Mikey twice as big stars after their fight/s as they were before. There is no telling how much bigger a Mikey-Loma rivalry could make all of Mikey's paydays at 147 in the future, just like how staying at 130 for one more fight vs Rigo, the fight all the fans had wanted to see for years just like Mikey-Loma, made Loma's payday at 135 vs Linares much bigger. In other words, if Mikey takes the Spence fight now instead of after his one big potential fight at his current weight vs Loma, Mikey will probably leave 75% of his money on the board because right now, casual fans have no idea who he is, whereas if he made his name first vs the P4P King on ESPN, he could demand much more money later on. I mean, it's ridiculous. Mikey can fight a naturally 25 lbs smaller, non-power punching, bigger name opponent, for more money and way more exposure, become twice as well known, then move up to 147 to fight Spence for three to five times the money he's being offered now, or Mikey can pass on his highest reward, lower risk (in terms of physical harm), star-making fight in his current weight class to instead move up two weight classes, fight the biggest puncher in the weight class, for less money and way less exposure, and instead of making his name twice as big to allow him to get paid three to five times as much money for those fights, he will likely get knocked out, lose tons of luster of his name, lose a third of his market value, and lose probably 50% of his biggest payday, the Lomachenko fight, because no one is going to be half as interested in a fight between the P4P king and someone who just got knocked out at 147 and will probably be weight drained trying to get back down to 135 as they are interested in a fight between the P4P King and his undefeated most difficult opponent. Put in simpler terms, Mikey-Loma is already a big PPV fight that has been building for years. Mikey-Spence is not a PPV fight and it has not been building for 1/3 as long as Mikey-Loma has, but it can become a PPV fight in the future once Mikey and Spence get more exposure. So why not make the one that is already a PPV fight, Mikey-Loma, and get Mikey the exposure needed to make Mikey-Spence a PPV fight in the future? And on Spence's side, he can likewise take fights with Porter and ultimately Thurman to raise his profile. Then when Mikey moves up, you will have a big PPV fight between the guy everyone knows from fighting Loma on PPV and the guy who everyone knows from fighting Brook, Porter, Thurman, etc. And if they're worried about Mikey losing to Loma and that hurting the viability of the Spence fight, well Mikey is way more likely to lose to Spence than he is to Loma, so what about Mikey losing to Spence ruining the Loma fight? Shouldn't that be the bigger concern seeing as there is more money to be made off Mikey-Loma than Mikey-Spence, and Mikey-Spence is way more likely to ruin Mikey-Loma than Mikey-Loma is to ruin Mikey-Spence? Why would you take the lower reward option which also comes with the greater risk of ruining the higher reward option? It makes no sense. Not only does it make no sense on those grounds, but the internal logic is off. If Mikey gets knocked out by Spence, and then has to drain back to 135, you really think fans will overlook that when it comes to their level of excitement for Mikey-Loma? Of course not. But on the other hand, if Mikey were to get outboxed by a smaller faster opponent, that's normal! When Floyd outboxed slower guys, people said it didn't even hurt their reputations because "that's what Floyd does." Well not only is that also what Lomachenko does (minus the cherry picking), but boxing fans also know that it's normal for the smaller boxer to be faster. Amir Khan was faster than Canelo early in their fight, it didn't mean he was better. Kell Brook was faster than GGG. That is normal. The smaller guy can usually outbox the bigger guy, so it's often just a question of whether the bigger guy can catch the little guy. And if Mikey catches Lomachenko and stops him, Mikey is suddenly the biggest star in boxing and he can command five times as much for the Spence fight. Why would he not play that hand and see where it leads? If Mikey doesn't catch Lomachenko, fans will just say, "that is what Lomachenko does, and that's just the way the coin flipped today. If they fought again, Mikey probably would catch him. If they fought ten times, they might split them 50/50. Mikey will probably be better from now on not having to make 135 anymore and then fight smaller faster guys anyway, I bet he has a big future at 140 and 147 where HE will be the faster smaller guy now, I can't wait to see him fight guys like Spence after Mikey gave an exciting performance even in defeat vs Loma." So win or lose vs Loma, Mikey gains huge exposure, makes a lot of money, will in all likelihood still be able to say he has never been knocked out, and will also be able to say that he is still undefeated above 135 pounds, making his fight vs Spence still much more interesting than Mikey's fight vs Loma would be if Mikey got knocked out by Spence at 147 and then had to cut 12 pounds. Agree. I’ve been rallying for the same thing here. Funny fans are even saying he’s scared of Loma that’s why he’ll fight a guy who can knock them both in one night instead lol. What a logic It’s not like spence is mayweather pacquiao oscar canelo level of payday. The damage it would do is not worth it. Not worth losing the weight of loma-mikey fight

I’m sure the fighters want the fight but it’s not up to them. ESPN didn’t sign Top Rank to a multi year contract so their 2 biggest stars can go fight on another network. The same can be said for Fox and Showtime.

Didn't come here to read the novel but as a Garcia fan, I'm extremely disappointed in his choice. No one gives him a chance. However, many people consider a Loma fight to be highly competitive. These guys who cheer for certain promoters don't realize that they're condoning stupid stuff like Garcia / Spence. Quit being fuk boys for these promoters and demand these guys stop the in house garbage. To me this 1 fight ruins two better fights. We could have Crawford vs Spence and Mikey vs Loma. Spence vs Mikey pisses me off.

Mikey can beat Loma's ass after the Spence fight. What's the problem?? Keep dreaming

It is a stupid fight...PERIOD! I like both fighters but WHY? A year or even 2 from after Mikey has Properly moved up and taken fights at 147 then yeah it could be HUGE but NOT NOW

first floyd robbed us of our money(not me) and now garcia is robbing us of our history

after Spence destroys Garcia he will be seen as damaged goods and the shine comes off a Loma fight. If Garcia even holds his own and makes the final bell then the Loma fight is HUGE afterward.

For legacy purposes, Mikey has a lot more to gain by beating Spence because it would make him a 5 division world champion, and put him in very exclusive company. It would also guarantee him the no.1 P4P spot. However, he has a lot more to lose legacy wise against Loma than he does against Spence. It's because of that reason I can't help but think that he's doing this to cash out.

To the OP I've been saying the exact things for months. People saying Garcia is bigger, stronger. And more technically sound than loma. If that's so true why not take out lomachenko who a ton of people consider p4p #1 to become p4p #1 yourself? The guy is small for your division and an easy fight to make. But mikey just likes to drop other peoples names and do ****. His brother doesnt even want the Spence fight but that's how far hes gonna go to avoid lomachenko. It doesnt make any sense at all from a legacy or money stand point.

didnt read the paragraph yet this match will happen in a few years if boxing is ever in a crisis like 2016

historical matchup????lol

Your point was understood from the first paragraph, no need for the others. Too long. No sane person would want Mikey vs Spence when there is Loma to fight, infact, that is the fight we all thought would happen even when Loma was in the lower weight class. What worries me is if Mikey gets damaged after the Spence fight.

Yeah Spence vs Mikey is a trash mismatch...if that fight happens then Loma vs Mikey would never be the same fight anymore

:why: Once I clicked on the topic; I had no idea I was about to read some magazine article or book :lol1: However to the main point that the TS is attempting to make I agree. It does seem that Mikey is ducking Lomachenko and for what reason I will never know. Spence is not a fight that I am particularly interested in but it is what it is. I may not necessarily agree with his choice of opponents but it is Mikey Garcia's career.

I get it but Loma-Garcia isnt some “ historical “ matchup dude lol. They are just two good fighters amongs many. I would like to see it but i wouldnt lose no sleep over it if it doesnt materialize. Garcia-Spence is more fascinating.. Not to most boxing fans. Those i have talked to dont care one bit about garcia vs spence. Most ppl think,its a waste and ruins a real intriguing fight with Loma. Now the media is trting to turn casuals into believing its some kinda dream fight or whatever but ppl arent really wanting it. It will do 500k on showtime reg. If its ppv itll do 75 k. Nobody cares. The pbc wws need to step up and fight each other or grow balls and fight King Crawford and leave lightweights alone.

:why: Once I clicked on the topic; I had no idea I was about to read a book :lol1: However to the main point that the TS is attempting to make I agree. It does seem that Mikey is ducking Lomachenko and for what reason I will never know. Spence is not a fight that I am particularly interested in but it is what it is. I may not necessarily agree with his choice of opponents but it is Mikey Garcia's career.

Mikey can beat Loma's ass after the Spence fight. What's the problem??

Didn't come here to read the novel but as a Garcia fan, I'm extremely disappointed in his choice. No one gives him a chance. However, many people consider a Loma fight to be highly competitive. These guys who cheer for certain promoters don't realize that they're condoning stupid stuff like Garcia / Spence. Quit being fuk boys for these promoters and demand these guys stop the in house garbage.