I mean at 35 roy jones jr was getting koed by journey man. GGG is outboxing a prime p4p fighter 9 years his age. How many times did floyd win 8-4 decisions? If ggg dosen't ko everyone, he's exposed and a hype job. It's crazy.
The question needs to be, why is GGG held to such low standards?
Same people who hold Mayweather, PAcquaio, and Ward to ridiculously high standards excuse GGG for never moving in weight and fighting tomato cans for 35 fights.
Standards are high for 97G? Where? Who the hell is holding 97G to high standards? No champion has ever gotten a bigger free pass from the media than Golovkin. Kell Brook is his best win for **** sakes. And yet this guy has been ranked number 1 pound for pound over the likes of Andre Ward, Earl Spence Jr., Keith Thurman, Sergey Kovalev, Canelo Alvarez, etc... Badou Jack has a much more impressive resume than 97G yet no one is putting him on P4P & saying he deserves a fight with Floyd Mayweather.
And it's not just random fanboys on message boards hyping this dude. It's Teddy Atlas, it's Steve Kim, it's Dan Rafael. So called "experts". The boxing media has been dick riding 97G so hard it's ridiculous. High standards? Lmao gtfo. Broner is held to higher standards than ****ing Golovkin. 40 year old Floyd Mayweather is expected to take tougher fights than the media's prime "P4P King".
every trainer does!! floyd sr! roach! robert gaccia, the list goes on!! its funny that you're even complaining about abel sanchez because the truth is, abel has been left in the shadow compare to the other high profile trainers.
there's barely anything on abel if there's no ggg fight coming up, yet he's the biggest sh1t talker out there? LOL!!!!
compare abel to guys like floyd sr, roach, etc, these guys are in the news daily, where as for abel, he's only in the news when there's a ggg fight coming up.
ps. im not a ggg fan
After that statement and denial....
P.s. GGG fan club member you are!
Done talking after you said Sanchez isn't in the news daily! LOL
we are comparing him to hagler right?
Hagler who lost to bums like Willie Monroe in his prime and called it quits after a welterweight beat his ass at 31?
GGG is still the defending champ and undefeated at 35
Wow, who said anything about comparing him to Hagler? I just stated that GGG fans have more than once boldly stated that Hagler would get knocked out by GGG and yet GGG doesn't have anywhere near the resume or work that Marvelous Marvin Hagler has!
Hagler fought and took on the challenge of legends!
GGG waited out in a dead division for his biggest pay day and gets mad at others for being businessmen but he does the same thing!
Your obviously a fool, GGG should've lost to Jacobs or got a draw but ran away from an immediate rematch and was getting tagged up by a welterweight who debut at 160 against him!
Your comparing a 5"10 Sugar Ray Leonard ATG legend as if ....you know what I'm done arguing with this fool!
Such impudence is astounding!
GGG fans are the worst, no questions!
35 year old
Never moved up once
Stayed in a garbage division
Claimed pound for pound by beating Macklin, Murray, Stevens, Wade and Lemule! LOL
Waits for smaller fighters to move up!
His best wins are Macklin, Murray, Stevens, Lemeiux and a 1 point win over Jacobs!
Called out Froch and Chavez at 168 but was hesitant with committing to Ward for 168 but wanted it at 164!
Said he wants 154 to 168 but refused to fight Canelo at 155 or Cotto at 154 but openly wanted Floyd at 154! LMAO
Fought an opponent he was expected to knockout being the bigger man and harder puncher with better footwork but struggled all nite with his offense minus a jab and got tagged with the harder punches through 12 rounds and got gifted a draw! LOL
Struggled with a welterweight after he was expected stop him within 3!
In some eyes he's 1-2 in his last 3 fights coincidentally its against solid competition and not bums and dishwashers!
The hype is dead!
we are comparing him to hagler right?
Hagler who lost to bums like Willie Monroe in his prime and called it quits after a welterweight beat his ass at 31?
GGG is still the defending champ and undefeated at 35
again, name me one trainer who doesnt speak highly of their #1 guy??????????????????????????
Name me one trainer that spoke that much sh!+ with a fighter that has proven less as much as GGG has!
Over 38 fights and fought only 3 solid opponents and 1 decent opponent!
You GGG fans are more deluded than Amir Khan himself!
35 year old
Never moved up once
Stayed in a garbage division
Claimed pound for pound by beating Macklin, Murray, Stevens, Wade and Lemule! LOL
Waits for smaller fighters to move up!
His best wins are Macklin, Murray, Stevens, Lemeiux and a 1 point win over Jacobs!
Called out Froch and Chavez at 168 but was hesitant with committing to Ward for 168 but wanted it at 164!
Said he wants 154 to 168 but refused to fight Canelo at 155 or Cotto at 154 but openly wanted Floyd at 154! LMAO
Fought an opponent he was expected to knockout being the bigger man and harder puncher with better footwork but struggled all nite with his offense minus a jab and got tagged with the harder punches through 12 rounds and got gifted a draw! LOL
Struggled with a welterweight after he was expected stop him within 3!
In some eyes he's 1-2 in his last 3 fights coincidentally its against solid competition and not bums and dishwashers!
The hype is dead!
This is 100% the truth save for gifted a draw. Even though I scored it for Canelo, I could see rounds for either fighter so a draw was appropriate.
When you claim to be great and your shoved down the throats of fans as being great, you get held to the highest standard. And GGG's resume is a joke, if like 99.99999% of champions GGG had been fighting quality competition after the age of 25 he'd have at least 5 losses now. We're talking about Martin Murray and Daniel Gaele as his career wins, wtf?
Floyd is 0-7 against elite competition.
he lost to
ODLH
Cotto
Pacquiao
Castillo
Castillo +1
Maidana
Maidana +1
lol just LOL @ that sham
35 year old
Never moved up once
Stayed in a garbage division
Claimed pound for pound by beating Macklin, Murray, Stevens, Wade and Lemule! LOL
Waits for smaller fighters to move up!
His best wins are Macklin, Murray, Stevens, Lemeiux and a 1 point win over Jacobs!
Called out Froch and Chavez at 168 but was hesitant with committing to Ward for 168 but wanted it at 164!
Said he wants 154 to 168 but refused to fight Canelo at 155 or Cotto at 154 but openly wanted Floyd at 154! LMAO
Fought an opponent he was expected to knockout being the bigger man and harder puncher with better footwork but struggled all nite with his offense minus a jab and got tagged with the harder punches through 12 rounds and got gifted a draw! LOL
Struggled with a welterweight after he was expected stop him within 3!
In some eyes he's 1-2 in his last 3 fights coincidentally its against solid competition and not bums and dishwashers!
The hype is dead!
let's not even forget Floyd and RJJ are proven PED cheats.
this is a fact of history. And still RJJ got his ass beat at GGG's age.
when was Floyd proven to be a PED cheat? Do you know what the word proven means?
Did your mother drop you on your head when you were a baby? How is Garcia a weight division smaller than Matthysse. His first fights were at Welterweight, and then he squeezed down to 140 to pick up belts, which is fair enough if you can do it. Then moved up to Welterweight whilst Matthysse was still fighting at 140.
Also stop using big words which you don't understand either, you utter muppet. What does your chest cavity have to do with boxing, your back is far more important, so I am not sure why you were holding particular importance to the chest.
Are you actually joking!!!? You started this whole thing by quoting one of my posts stating that Canelo was a naturally smaller fighter, and saying it was "bollocks". I have never debated with someone on here who changes their argument as much as you. Its comical at best.
I'm completely done with this, its boring and I'm confident in my own opinion that Canelo is naturally the smaller fighter, which takes me back to the original point, and that is GGG's standards are higher because we we are led to believe without sufficient supporting evidence that he is a monster and an ATG. Not being able to dominate and in fact having a very close nip and tuck fight with a smaller but great fighter in Canelo is further evidence that whilst he is a great fighter, he is not in the same league as a B-Hop, Hagler, a Toney at 160, Jones, or Monzon, etc.etc. Those guys would have put a one sided hurting on a smaller guy like Canelo and likely stopped him in every case.
I assumed that was what you were referring to when guaging the massive gulf in size or wasn't it? Golovkin is a whole division bigger because the width from his chest to his back is bigger than Canelo's, right? I pointed to Matthysse vs Garcia which has a similar look.
https://www.proboxing-fans.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/garcia-matthysse-weigh-in.jpg
http://www4.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Floyd+Mayweather+Jr+v+Canelo+Alvarez+Weigh+mSTc_xgOiKPx.jpg
hey look, Salka is bigger than Garcia.
https://i.imgur.com/8W8B2Xn.jpg
This conversation ended anyway when you yourself admitted that Canelo belongs somewhere between 154 to 160 i.e. middleweight and is in fact not "one division smaller" than golovkin. Go on, you can fuk off now with your walls of text, you bellend.
because his trainer felt they won the fight?
because a trainer is not suppose to say his fighter will win the fight prior to it?
Dude did you not read my whole post or just skim thru it? Lmao
I did not mention what Abel said post fight, I frankly don't care cuz of courses
he's gonna back his guy! Win or loss!..
I'm talking about the many times he spoke out like GGG is GOAT of middleweights, saying he would destroy veterans and legends!
GGG don't like talkers but his trainer is a big sh!+ talker with a pupil who can only back it up against bums and laundry mat workers and barely against the top fighters!
GGG fans are the most in denial and deluded fan base in boxing, it's like a bunch of Amir Khan's are fans of GGG!
GGG is 0-2 in his first 2 fights against legit competition in some peoples' eyes. I had him losing both fights.
Officially he is 1-0-1 with a close decision and a controversial draw.
Floyd is 0-7 against elite competition.
he lost to
ODLH
Cotto
Pacquiao
Castillo
Castillo +1
Maidana
Maidana +1
lol just LOL @ that sham
Triple L been knocking out people that were created level fighters and b level fighters now that he got good people in front of him he can't pull the trigger as to this monster that just stood in front of people take punches and knock them out but as they said once the raise the competition level the outcome won't be the same
Well I dunno, go ask his fans who would win between him or Marvin Hagler?
How about go ask Sanchez about GGG stopping heavyweights and cruiser's and bragging how he dropped Kovalev!
I dunno let's talk about the time when GGG said he can fight anyone from 154 to 168 but picked and choosed who he was willing to do it with!
Ask HBO who hyped him as pound for pound top 5 after beating Macklin, Murray, Stevens and Lemule! LMAO
These threads just continue my belief that Canelo won the fight and Out boxed GGG with landing the more harder cleaner punches while displaying better defense and the excuses continue piling up! LOL keep it coming!
We.need to bump the thread with all those fools made how saying Canelo will be pulverized!
Even you GGG fans still deny, deny, deny of what you see!
You guys might be the worse fan base since the Pacquiao and even some Mayweather fans but nah y'all are worse!
Y'all disrespect legends, veterans and other fighters who've done more than him and defend him then make dubious threads like these!? Smh
Hagler actually lost to welterweight and the likes of Willie Monroe lmao.
Hagler also retired at 31. Who knows what he would've looked like at 35. definitely not at the top of the sport.
GGG jab more authorutive than floyds. If its good enough for Floyd?
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See what I'm talking about! SMH
GGG gets compared to legends and has done nothing to merit his name being in the same sentence!
What Canelo did by moving up to fight him and is what GGG never did to move up fight Ward!
This is why he gets the wrap he does!
He claims he doesnt like talkers but his trainer has the biggest mouth in boxing!
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