How would Canelo do against Sergio Marvilla Martinez?

Sergio isn't Floyd man! Sergio has little defense, Mayweather is defense first. Sergio fights with his hands hanging, Floyd fights with his hands up at all times. Floyd stands in the pocket and counters and moves, Sergio moves around exerting a lot of energy, he does a lot of unnecessary moving, trying to be RJJ or something but at his old age of 35+ all that did was constantly get him in the canvas against semi-good fighters. Sergio made it up to P4P #3 behind only Pacquiao & Floyd... Do you really believe Canelo does anything remotely good enough to trouble him in his prime.

Sure, Gamboa always had the same "balance" issue. But when do you draw a line between balance and just inability to take a good punch and stay standing? Then if Martinez is off balance so much, that still leaves a lot of room for Canelo to get KD's a win the fight regardless. i think the difference is most of the KD in sergio fights, the punch didnt even land on his face. Williams hit his shoulder. Also the fact that sergio a natural 154lb went up and fought with MW and took their best punches. He is hittable but he uses his feet well to get away also he has a good reach and canelo doesnt really close distance well. And sergio is a really good counter puncher as well as a boxer/aggressor. Knows to stay out of reach. He did it with pure MW, and beat them up.

Sergio by UD. Even the version who fought Chavez Jr in 2012 would be enough. If floyd's accuracy and power was enough to make Canelo hesitate, Sergio's would also make him honest. Granted Floyd is just too good in the pocket and sergio isn't, he should continually move and fight in the back foot like he did against Chavez. Make a statement in round 1 to slow canelo down, potshots the next few rounds while leading with that left. And throw combos when Canelo overextends. If canelo receives the same punishment prime granite chin jr took, i dont think he'd be able to stand it. It'd be a fast pace chess match war. Sergio's power, speed and footwork would be the key. Prime sergio got a pulse. Sergio isn't Floyd man! Sergio has little defense, Mayweather is defense first. Sergio fights with his hands hanging, Floyd fights with his hands up at all times. Floyd stands in the pocket and counters and moves, Sergio moves around exerting a lot of energy, he does a lot of unnecessary moving, trying to be RJJ or something but at his old age of 35+ all that did was constantly get him in the canvas against semi-good fighters.

Counting all KD's official and unofficial, Martinez was KD'ed 3x by Cotto (1 more time in the 9th which was a terrible call by the ref calling it a KD when it clearly wasn't), 2x by Murray (one was robbed from Murray), Chavez Jr 1x, Macklin 1x, Pavlik 1x, Williams 1x. Are people serious? Lol, if a guy can get knocked down that much, you better believe Canelo will do the same and do even worse things. It's crazy how little respect Canelo gets, it's like people having been watching him all these years...

Topic??????? Sergio by UD. Even the version who fought Chavez Jr in 2012 would be enough. If floyd's accuracy and power was enough to make Canelo hesitate, Sergio's would also make him honest. Granted Floyd is just too good in the pocket and sergio isn't, he should continually move and fight in the back foot like he did against Chavez. Make a statement in round 1 to slow canelo down, potshots the next few rounds while leading with that left. And throw combos when Canelo overextends. If canelo receives the same punishment prime granite chin jr took, i dont think he'd be able to stand it. It'd be a fast pace chess match war. Sergio's power, speed and footwork would be the key. Prime sergio got a pulse.

Why avoid my question name the list of fighters Sergio beat that are better then trout? Go ahead I dare you. Trout world champ only lost to elite fighters never knocked out, only dropped by 2 fighters charlo who punches like a mule wasn't 1 of them. And flat out embarrassed a 1st ballot HOFer. Now go look at the bulk of bums Sergio beat. Trout is a better fighter with a better resume then every fighter Sergio beat except maybe 2 guys. But go ahead make a bigger fool out yourself and get me that list. Just for the record. I do think Trout's a good fighter, but outside of his singular good win against Cotto nigh on 5 years ago now he's beat basically no-one. He has a reputation for giving tough fights and that's a bout it. Enough (somehow) to make Canelo, Charlo and Lara into elites apparently in some eyes though, cos he's the best legit win for all of them. I was a huge fan of Maravilla, but that doesn't mean I don't see many of the flaws you point out in his style however, and I do think there'd be a high chance of Canelo timing and countering him, much as it pains me to admit it, although I think Sergios movement would give Canelo fits too.

To be fair all those knockdowns with the exception of the chavez one were only cuz he was off balance. And the cotto fight his knees were obviously fcked. Sure, Gamboa always had the same "balance" issue. But when do you draw a line between balance and just inability to take a good punch and stay standing? Then if Martinez is off balance so much, that still leaves a lot of room for Canelo to get KD's a win the fight regardless.

Counting all KD's official and unofficial, Martinez was KD'ed 3x by Cotto (1 more time in the 9th which was a terrible call by the ref calling it a KD when it clearly wasn't), 2x by Murray (one was robbed from Murray), Chavez Jr 1x, Macklin 1x, Pavlik 1x, Williams 1x. Are people serious? Lol, if a guy can get knocked down that much, you better believe Canelo will do the same and do even worse things. To be fair all those knockdowns with the exception of the chavez one were only cuz he was off balance. And the cotto fight his knees were obviously fcked.

Surprised by how almost everyone has picked Maravilla. I think Canelo wins a UD, with a KD or two along the way. People looking at the Lara fight and thinking 'Maravilla has the same skillset as him and offers more offensively' are hugely mistaken, they fight nothing alike and Maravilla being a more offensive-minded fighter plays right into Canelo's hands. Maravilla was a very good fighter, but he was very fundamentally flawed and relied on his athleticism and reflexes a lot, he's not technically as good as somebody like Lara. Counting all KD's official and unofficial, Martinez was KD'ed 3x by Cotto (1 more time in the 9th which was a terrible call by the ref calling it a KD when it clearly wasn't), 2x by Murray (one was robbed from Murray), Chavez Jr 1x, Macklin 1x, Pavlik 1x, Williams 1x. Are people serious? Lol, if a guy can get knocked down that much, you better believe Canelo will do the same and do even worse things.

At his best, Sergio would give him a good fight because of movement, but chin? We'll Sergio didn't really have a solid one, thus I'd have to say canelo wins a good fight, by UD after knocking Martinez down 2-3 times

Canelo would f*ck him up come on. Guy was knocked down by Williams, Pavlik, Macklin, Chavez Jr, Murray, and Cotto. You think Canelo won't pulverize prime Martinez? Martinez hands down style would work for few styles, but not Canelo's. Canelo would absolutely demolish Martinez. Canelo is too poised, patient and too good of a timer and too good of a combination puncher, too good of defense to lose to someone as defensively careless as Martinez. To beat Canelo you have to be defensively on point and make him come forward. Martinez did not bring that to the ring, he was so careless, hence the countless knockdowns.

Canelo would beat Sergio because of the 150lb catchweight

Trout lost in all his big fights, only when he faced a past prime cotto he pulled off a win by like a point This is phuking embarrassing he beat cotto his biggest fight of his life at the time. only fight he would later have maybe bigger was canelo otherwise he's never been in a bigger fight and won. So cotto fight is either 1a or 1b biggest fight. Also he didn't win by a point he dominated cotto. Literally nothing you said is true. LMAO

Surprised by how almost everyone has picked Maravilla. I think Canelo wins a UD, with a KD or two along the way. People looking at the Lara fight and thinking 'Maravilla has the same skillset as him and offers more offensively' are hugely mistaken, they fight nothing alike and Maravilla being a more offensive-minded fighter plays right into Canelo's hands. Maravilla was a very good fighter, but he was very fundamentally flawed and relied on his athleticism and reflexes a lot, he's not technically as good as somebody like Lara.

Why do you always try to kick knowledge and fail lmao get over yourself lol Dzinz never got knocked down before sergio then got put on his ass and stopped. Anyone who is not an idiot or blind knows sergio beat cintron and twice williams you fool. Trout sucks and almost beat canelo. Even with the knockdown canelo still almost lost. Thats how bad he is looool Trout lost in all his big fights, only when he faced a past prime cotto he pulled off a win by like a point. you failed again kicking knowledge. now dip Dzinz was a bum who fought over seas against no names and exposed when he came to the us. who's biggest win trout also beat. And if you want to give Sergio a win over cintron even though he didn't win the fight then you have have to take away the Murray fight because most fans know he lost that fight. Can't have both you choose which one but be consistent either we go strictly off the record or by who fans think won. And for the last time neither guy was as good or have better win on their resume then trout he beat better fighters and never lost to journey men. You bringing up guys who lost to bums. And contradict yourself in previous posts saying canelo beat bums yet too stupid to know he beat cintron so you call him a bum when canelo does it but when sergio who technically didnt beat him and struggled does it hes a great fighter? DYCK HEAD PLEASE. Go create poll and ask everyone here who was the better fighter cintron, Murray, Dzinz or trout. Create 3 polls and see how stupid you will look with results. Arguing with a phuking rookie who don't know DKSAB. SMH

He'd have serious problems, as most would with Sergio at his best. Sergio is very mobile, has excellent stamina, and his skill set matches well with Alvarez's weaknesses.

So ONLY 5 people that Sergio ever beat are better then trout yet he's a bum? So the other 46 guys he beat are what? That's my point you dumb phuk he's better then virtually all the names on sergio resume and by the way only 2 names you mentioned can argue were better p-will and pavlik. And pavlik was a drunk and already beaten by Hopkins and personal life a mess at the time. But I will give you those 2 names. Cintron? He didn't beat him it was a draw and 2 he was not that good but you already contradict yourself because if you think he was great then you have to give credit to canelo who wiped him out didn't struggle to a draw with him. So which is it? Murray most feel flat out beat sergio. Dropped him and got robbed. Was never a world champ at any point in his career and struggled with rosado. Dzinziruk a Euro bum got exposed when he came to the US to face world class fighters won ONLY 1 of the 4 fights here then retired. He lost to journey man brian vera for phuk sake So your list is 5 names pwill beat him the first fight so he was 1-1, drunk pavlik, cintron struggled to a draw, murray everyone knows beat him, a euro nobody who was exposed in US. Trout in his prime undefeated world champ fresh off a win over a HOF the same guy who later destroyed sergio and funny he beat dawson the same guy who Dzinziruk beat THE GUY YOU JUST LISTED RE Tard. So Dzinziruk is great because his best win was dawson trout beat dawson and cotto and he sucks? SMH Trout never been knocked out and only loses were to world champ elite fighters and he's got better wins then half the guys you listed. Damn you spent all day just to come up with 5 names that you googled and have no clue who these guys are. I gave you the rope to hang yourself stop trying to talk boxing. Why do you always try to kick knowledge and fail lmao get over yourself lol Dzinz never got knocked down before sergio then got put on his ass and stopped. Anyone who is not an idiot or blind knows sergio beat cintron and twice williams you fool. Trout sucks and almost beat canelo. Even with the knockdown canelo still almost lost. Thats how bad he is looool Trout lost in all his big fights, only when he faced a past prime cotto he pulled off a win by like a point. you failed again kicking knowledge. now dip

Williams, cintron, pavlick, Dzinziruk, heck even murray is better. Trouts best win is winning a close fight against a past prime cotto, and canelo barely won over him. What else has trout even done other then the cotto fight? lol where is he now? Niether canelo or charlo are elite and he lost to both. What are you blabbering about lol Sergio is beast and destroys canelo, thats it. So ONLY 5 people that Sergio ever beat are better then trout yet he's a bum? So the other 46 guys he beat are what? That's my point you dumb phuk he's better then virtually all the names on sergio resume and by the way only 2 names you mentioned can argue were better p-will and pavlik. And pavlik was a drunk and already beaten by Hopkins and personal life a mess at the time. But I will give you those 2 names. Cintron? He didn't beat him it was a draw and 2 he was not that good but you already contradict yourself because if you think he was great then you have to give credit to canelo who wiped him out didn't struggle to a draw with him. So which is it? Murray most feel flat out beat sergio. Dropped him and got robbed. Was never a world champ at any point in his career and struggled with rosado. Dzinziruk a Euro bum got exposed when he came to the US to face world class fighters won ONLY 1 of the 4 fights here then retired. He lost to journey man brian vera for phuk sake So your list is 5 names pwill beat him the first fight so he was 1-1, drunk pavlik, cintron struggled to a draw, murray everyone knows beat him, a euro nobody who was exposed in US. Trout in his prime undefeated world champ fresh off a win over a HOF the same guy who later destroyed sergio and funny he beat dawson the same guy who Dzinziruk beat THE GUY YOU JUST LISTED RE Tard. So Dzinziruk is great because his best win was dawson trout beat dawson and cotto and he sucks? SMH Trout never been knocked out and only loses were to world champ elite fighters and he's got better wins then half the guys you listed. Damn you spent all day just to come up with 5 names that you googled and have no clue who these guys are. I gave you the rope to hang yourself stop trying to talk boxing.

Why avoid my question name the list of fighters Sergio beat that are better then trout? Go ahead I dare you. Trout world champ only lost to elite fighters never knocked out, only dropped by 2 fighters charlo who punches like a mule wasn't 1 of them. And flat out embarrassed a 1st ballot HOFer. Now go look at the bulk of bums Sergio beat. Trout is a better fighter with a better resume then every fighter Sergio beat except maybe 2 guys. But go ahead make a bigger fool out yourself and get me that list. Williams, cintron, pavlick, Dzinziruk, heck even murray is better. Trouts best win is winning a close fight against a past prime cotto, and canelo barely won over him. What else has trout even done other then the cotto fight? lol where is he now? Niether canelo or charlo are elite and he lost to both. What are you blabbering about lol Sergio is beast and destroys canelo, thats it.

Prime Sergio wins by probably 4-6 round KO. People seem to forget Sergio had a great left hand. Too much skill, speed and skill for Canelo.