Khan vs. Pacquiao
Spence vs. Brook
Thurman def. Garcia
Peterson is mando to Thurman
Berto and Porter are fighting to put themselves back in title contention.
It's an exciting time for the welterweight division and Tim Bradley is not involved. It seems like he is just a part time fighter trying to cash out against a big name like Canelo, Cotto or GGG. He built his legacy by fighting most of the top contenders at 140. But since he's moved to 147 his most notable moments are a robbery victory over Pacquiao, a draw with Chaves, going life and death with Ruslan, beating Vargas despite a scary ending and a career defining win over Marquez.
He has no legit wins over top 10 welterweights (Vargas was ranked after the fact when he beat Ali)
I've always been a Bradley guy but it's a shame not to see him in the mix to become a top welterweight. He has never reigned king of a division despite an impressive resume. I once thought he would have a great boxing legacy filled with great accomplishments. Now it seems like it's a career of what ifs.
bradley took hellish punishment in the provodnikov fight. pacquiao fights, too. he's made a ton of money and he doesnt' need to fightnay more. if he's offered big fights on PPV he might take it, but what fights are there really for him on ppv? pacquiao 4 :lol1:? arum has a small stable at this point, and the fights just aren't there. bradley's also showed signs of deteriorating, and he knows it. he was really out of it after the provodnikov fight by all accounts. joel diaz, who was seemingly fired by bradley's manager / wife, said he was ready to cancel the marquez fight until tim turned a corner in sparring and stopped getting beat up.
they guy has been on TV in big fights for almost decade. he's got plenty of money, and he's taken a ton of punishment in sparring and in his fights. if he can't get cotto, marquez, pacquiao, etc in there on ppv he's probably not going to decide to fight again.
He did beat Cháves. Draw was wrong. And the only reason it was closer than it was..was because of headbutts and the nasty swollen eye. Cháves was fighting a bit dirty. Even then, I had it 116-112 Bradley.
Back to the topic, Bradley doesn't seem that hungry anymore,... he's made a lot of cash... and his wife probably manages those finances well.
Yes I think Tim is still at the top of his game. There's no shame in losing to Pacquaio, he only lost the last 10 seconds against Vargas, he knocked out Brandon Rios, and should have gotten the nod against Chavez, outboxed Marquez - where's the downslide to his skills?
He isn't top of his game... 08-2012 was bradleys peak... when he was dominating guys like Peterson and Devon.. not when he was almost getting stopped by Vargas and ruslan..
Khan vs. Pacquiao
Spence vs. Brook
Thurman def. Garcia
Peterson is mando to Thurman
Berto and Porter are fighting to put themselves back in title contention.
It's an exciting time for the welterweight division and Tim Bradley is not involved. It seems like he is just a part time fighter trying to cash out against a big name like Canelo, Cotto or GGG. He built his legacy by fighting most of the top contenders at 140. But since he's moved to 147 his most notable moments are a robbery victory over Pacquiao, a draw with Chaves, going life and death with Ruslan, beating Vargas despite a scary ending and a career defining win over Marquez.
He has no legit wins over top 10 welterweights (Vargas was ranked after the fact when he beat Ali)
I've always been a Bradley guy but it's a shame not to see him in the mix to become a top welterweight. He has never reigned king of a division despite an impressive resume. I once thought he would have a great boxing legacy filled with great accomplishments. Now it seems like it's a career of what ifs.
Timothy Bradley made his bed, so he'll lay in it; he'll fight for his $2m whenever Arum has a fight for him, and in the down time, he's going to be a father to his children.
You're right. But Marquez was a part-time welterweight/fighter at that point. Top Rank had control of the WBO belt in that division and was just doing a internal mini- tournament with Pac/Bradley/Marquez/Ruslan/Rios/Alvarado/Vargas.
Don't get me wrong, it produced some great fights, but I would like to see Bradley try and become the man in the division before cashing out. He seems content with using the promotional barrier as an excuse and being the big fish in the small pond.
He feels like he did his part in his 140 days.
Hard win over Witter, beat undefeated Devon & Lamont, both who went on to win belts at 147. Plus he's old. A Cotto fight would be a great way to go out.
I know this is me, but I'll forever be salty that Brook-Vargas didn't get the green light, because I know Pacquiao or Bradley would've chased the winner.
Bradley has paid his dues, he's in a similar position to Cotto, which is part of the reason the fight makes sense. He shouldn't be trying fight his way through the top contenders anymore, he should be looking for meaningful & lucrative options before calling it a career.
Lmao,, at the top of his game??
Grab paychecks is what he should do
Fight big money fights vs canelo, cotto, khan,
Or fight Spence, Thurman, Porter for half the money..
Yes I think Tim is still at the top of his game. There's no shame in losing to Pacquaio, he only lost the last 10 seconds against Vargas, he knocked out Brandon Rios, and should have gotten the nod against Chavez, outboxed Marquez - where's the downslide to his skills?
Why isn't Marquez, a legit top 10 win? He was ranked ranked #1 at WW when Bradley beat him.
You're right. But Marquez was a part-time welterweight/fighter at that point. Top Rank had control of the WBO belt in that division and was just doing a internal mini- tournament with Pac/Bradley/Marquez/Ruslan/Rios/Alvarado/Vargas.
Don't get me wrong, it produced some great fights, but I would like to see Bradley try and become the man in the division before cashing out. He seems content with using the promotional barrier as an excuse and being the big fish in the small pond.
The man has fought the best already. Pacquiao three times...
He has no motivation anymore. And I understand him. He must be thinking about 2 or 3 more fights and then retirement. And I agree with him.
Tim Bradley is just on the wrong side of the street, plus I think he's content with just getting the occasional fight for big money at this point, he's no spring chicken anymore. He should try to get that Cotto fight then retire
He has no legit wins over top 10 welterweights (Vargas was ranked after the fact when he beat Ali)
Why isn't Marquez, a legit top 10 win? He was ranked ranked #1 at WW when Bradley beat him.
Lmao,, at the top of his game??
Grab paychecks is what he should do
Fight big money fights vs canelo, cotto, khan,
Or fight Spence, Thurman, Porter for half the money..
Yep time to cash out
Tim is a Hall of Famer, but I agree... It is disappointing to see all those young lions mixing up and Tim, who still has a lot to offer, not being involved..
He said he started training though and he's "itching" to get back in the ring. I think he will have a final run, but what's there for him if he doesn't mix with PBC guys? I think there's a chance he might fight Brook in UK, I'd be super excited for that one.
Tim Bradley can do whatever he wants he has had a solid career. By that same token though no one should really still consider him a top guy at 147 pounds unless he proves it and continues to prove it.
He has been inactive for 11 months with nothing on the stove so he is going to be inactive for a year, and his last win was over the faded ghost of Brandon Rios like 16 months ago. Last fairly legitimate win was Vargas who is a top ten sort of guy damn near 2 years ago.
Like no one else keeps top guy status with that sort of 2 year record. He is still a decent name if he wants to throw his hat in the ring, but he has a lot to prove it seems to me.
I'm with you PBP. Although he has had a good career I'm kind of disappointed he won't be in there to mix it up with any of the current WW. He did his thing at 140 but I'm not too impressed with his WW resume as I've said many times on this site. A win over Marquez is the best he's done. I guess he got paid though but I'm surprised he hasn't received as much criticism as others at 147 have.