Many users says his only HoFer,but he beated 15 world champ(its very immportant for some users here),Have great wins in Pacquiao,MAB and jones also kelley ,Carlos Hernandez,ESPN rank him 49 greatest of all the time boxer so i dont know what to think about it is he ATG or no?
Of course he's an ATG. If Erik Morales is no ATG, who is? He has beaten Barrera and Pacquiao in their primes. Both are all time greats as well. Erik Morales is the very definition of an ATG. He's the real deal. He's the ****.
of course he is.
The only people that discredit him are stupid idiots on this forum who want to discredit Pacs resume.
So petty.
According to some posters here, Morales and Barrera are overrated and not as great as Diego Corrales.
Corrales vs those though what great fights they would be.
People that discredit Pacquiao would probably say not an ATG because by claiming Morales as an ATG would elevate Pacquiao's win even more. Despite the fact that Morales fought Pacquiao and beat him ( Though Pacquiao at that time was still a 1 handed fighter) And still went on to have two more titles in two different weight classes.
According to some posters here, Morales and Barrera are overrated and not as great as Diego Corrales.
Of course he's an ATG. If Erik Morales is no ATG, who is? He has beaten Barrera and Pacquiao in their primes. Both are all time greats as well. Erik Morales is the very definition of an ATG. He's the real deal. He's the ****.
Most definitely.
Beat Barrera and Pacquaio in their primes amongst many other very good wins.
4 weight champion (first ever from Mexico)
An absolute warrior and legend.
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It's hard, what's the definition of ATG, is it top 20 fighters? Top 50? Top 100?. I'm just going to make up my own definition. For me top 50 are ATG. Top 100 is great. In that case he is a Great
Hall of famer,,, but can't really call him a true atg..
No way can I put him on the same level as a Sanchez, duran, manny, Armstrong, etc
exactly.......someone like sanchez is a ATG even manny. Morales is a first ballet HOF.
I think the one big black mark on Morales' record is his pretty one sided loss to Raheem. That almost puts him borderline for me, but then again that was at lightweight, and as I said previously he was not at his best anymore at 130 and above.
its never easy for a fighter who is aggressive with good power, to beat a bigger faster more elusive fighter
Raheem was very talented, and his style was all wrong for Morales, who did better when his opponents came to him or when he could box in spots
of course he is
He was a perennial p4p entrant....he had world class skills and heart
beat ATG, HOFer, and many world champions
I could see him being competitive in an featherweight era....even the 70s(loaded)....40s(loaded with pep, saddler, chalky wright, archibald, etc
he'd have been a champion or one of the best in any era from 122-126
too bad the wars caught up to him in his late 20s...he had a lot of tough fights back to back
his last great win was the Pacquaio win, and he finished the fight in typical morales machismo!!
I think the one big black mark on Morales' record is his pretty one sided loss to Raheem. That almost puts him borderline for me, but then again that was at lightweight, and as I said previously he was not at his best anymore at 130 and above.
For ATG's - I always think could he have competed with the elite of any era in his weight division? Against any Super-bantamweight or featherweight era in history? Could he have beaten a good portion of them?
I think the answer to all 3 questions is yes. I think at super-featherweight he was not an ATG. But at the two weight divisions below and judged as a whole? For sure I think he is. There are fighters at those weights who accomplished more, and maybe a handful that would beat him head to head, but I would say less than 5 that could claim both.
no no and another no......if he's a ATG he's nothing significant worth mentioning as ATG status.
he's a first ballet HOF though.
So a clear win over a prime Pac isn't significant? You must think g string is a complete bum.
no no and another no......if he's a ATG he's nothing significant worth mentioning as ATG status.
he's a first ballet HOF though.
Prime Pac & MAB? Kelley & JJ? Log off y mug..
Most definitely.
Beat Barrera and Pacquaio in their primes amongst many other very good wins.
4 weight champion (first ever from Mexico)
An absolute warrior and legend.