According to many of the Brook faithful this is easy work for Crook, but what do you guys think?
Yeah, I didn't hear Garcia pushing for Brook did he?
Nobody is scared of Garcia - I even like the guy a lot - but Brook would beat his ass up.
Right. Of course :lol1:
No, but he would lay out Garcia for sure.
Brook fans seem to be adamant (on here at least, from reading comments) that he walks through the best of the Welterweight division with ease, I'm not so convinced, I don't see him beating Garcia and his chin imo is questionable, I know Hearn is protecting his prized asset for the Khan fight but the atrocious competition makes me wonder if he's protecting a weak chin... vivid recollections of Senchenko making him two step come to mind.
Polls up.
No not really.
But Porter has proven a hard man to beat and Brook beating him was impressive. As you said so yourself before getting caught up in Khanturd land of "I hate Brook no matter what".
I still think it was an excellent win: foreign country, not a vacant title and against a guy like Porter who has wins over Devon Alexander and complimentary win over Malignaggi, a nice first defense even by that day's standard. I felt the fight was wide, but now that I look at it, not so much. Even Brook said he "nicked" it, so what is that saying?
I had the same thing with Canelo-Trout. Why? because both times the guys were fighting a great fighter and I was happy to see them finally step up. That doesn't change the fact it was a great win and you can't take anything away from Brook just that it was closer than I initially felt.
I'm not even gonna say he has the best jab, so many different variations to the jab and more importantly, Brook only has one notable win. Garcia is a good size WW and he didn't exactly get manhandled in the manner Berto did, nor did he look physically inferior to Thurman, this all against Guerrero of course.
See the bold, that's the thing, Garcia will not be uncomfortable in this fight. The jab might bother him a bit but it's not the up jab Herrera utilizes, Brook isn't as crafty up close, I think people really need to rethink bringing up Herrera.
Guerrero isn't a proper WW, he came up from 135 and brought nothing but a solid chin. I can't see Garcia doing anything against the likes of Brook, Thurman, Porter...
Fighting at distance is also what Brook wants to do. I see nothing to concern him. The bigger guy with a terrific jab, more skill, the straighter shots, the speed and reach advantages. He also doesn't reach with his shots, it's a perfect style fight for him.
Garcia has a punchers chance and thats with timing not power. As stated already Brook has all the advantages and is pretty good at using them. Peterson f'd him up and Herrera just killed him, he has alot of trouble with smart fighters.
Great job by Garcia thus far but on the elite level he has the heart but not the skill. I give him a decent chance to beat Porter and catching Khan again with the no look hook again to but thats about it. No shame in that
I'd consider it perfect range for Brook.
He likes to operate at distance, has the best jab at 147, his timing is tremendous, he'll have every advantage in terms of speed, size, power and skill.
I don't even think this would be competitive.
I'm not even gonna say he has the best jab, so many different variations to the jab and more importantly, Brook only has one notable win. Garcia is a good size WW and he didn't exactly get manhandled in the manner Berto did, nor did he look physically inferior to Thurman, this all against Guerrero of course.
See the bold, that's the thing, Garcia will not be uncomfortable in this fight. The jab might bother him a bit but it's not the up jab Herrera utilizes, Brook isn't as crafty up close, I think people really need to rethink bringing up Herrera.
Based on beating opponents levels below Garcia's career opp? :theyareon
Resume isn't everything, nobody is denying that Garcia has fought better opposition. Porter had also fought better opposition before fighting Brook.
I would consider Porter a better single win than anything on Garcia's resume tbh, but Garcia has more quantity.
:lol1: as usual....Swift gets destroyed, stopped, outclassed, this fight won't be competitive and all kinds of wishful f*ckery!!...Swift was supposed to get destroyed and outclassed by few others but he proved many people wrong....it's cool to have Kell as the betting fav but to say the fight would be easy for Kell is just crazy!!...I can see Kell winning a decision but I can also see Swift icing that muthaf*cka!!
I think Kell is skilled but not really tested....Swift been in the trenches more than a few times and I think that would help him during rough moments in the fight...Kell, on the other hand hasn*t been battled tested like that
Kell just might crumble under adversity and Swift has the power and skill to put him through The Univ. of Adversity and teach him how to win a unification fight...Swift been in that type of fight before, Kell still babysitting his first world title
Garcia has also shown to have zero answers for Herrera (a guy with losses to Mayfield and Alvarado), had a toss-up with Peterson and a difficult time with an old, shot Judah.
Speed isn't the only factor of beating someone to the punch; timing, distance control and range are all in there. Brook has the advantage in every area.
Khan couldn't embarrass Julio Diaz or Chris Algieri and has been running from Brook for years....never mind Brook, he's not confident of beating any of the top rated guys.
Diaz and Algieri are better than anyone on Brook's resume bar Porter lmao, not only that but Porter drew with Diaz, although he beat him in a rematch he still drew with him once so Diaz can't be that bad if Brook's only claim to fame struggled with him.
Brook was down early in his career, wobbled against Senchenko and buzzed against Jones. I don't think he's as durable as Garcia, but skillwise, he's far superior. Garcia was having big problems with Herrera's jab, Brook has got the best jab at 147, he would torch Garcia with 1-2s. I really don't think the fight would be competitive.
Porter > Garcia btw
Based on beating opponents levels below Garcia's career opp? :theyareon
There is something about Danny Garcia. Never looks very impressive but always seems to make the opponent look even worse.(except for Herrera who was robbed).
Kell Brook seems the more talented fighter, and I dont think Danny has brought the power up with him. Not an easy fight though
No indication Brook will beat him without much trouble, Brook is gonna give Garcia his favorable range, Garcia will have all the time in the world to catch and shoot. Herrera steps in with his jab and can actually fight on the inside, especially in and out of the clinch, that's not Brook.
Brook was hurt against Senchenko and multiple times against Jones.
I'd consider it perfect range for Brook.
He likes to operate at distance, has the best jab at 147, his timing is tremendous, he'll have every advantage in terms of speed, size, power and skill.
I don't even think this would be competitive.
Brook was down early in his career, wobbled against Senchenko and buzzed against Jones. I don't think he's as durable as Garcia, but skillwise, he's far superior. Garcia was having big problems with Herrera's jab, Brook has got the best jab at 147, he would torch Garcia with 1-2s. I really don't think the fight would be competitive.
Porter > Garcia btw
Brook is not a speed fighter by any means, but his hands and body movement in general are well ahead of Garcia. You guys who dislike Brook like to talk about him having to grind out a win against Jones after gassing, Garcia lost comprehensively to Herrera.
Garcia has average at best speed and good timing. Brook has above average speed and excellent timing.
This will be very evident if this fight happens, Brook will beat him without much difficulty.
No indication Brook will beat him without much trouble, Brook is gonna give Garcia his favorable range, Garcia will have all the time in the world to catch and shoot. Herrera steps in with his jab and can actually fight on the inside, especially in and out of the clinch, that's not Brook.
Brook was hurt against Senchenko and multiple times against Jones.
Not well ahead by any stretch.
Brook hasn't faced a guy who can beat him to the punch yet, and he hasn't looked too fast against his opponents.
Garcia has shown he can handle elite speed (Khan) and elite power (Matthysse).
Most fighters can't handle the shock of being the slower guy when they're used to beating their opponents to the punch all night.
Khan could very well humiliate Brook now that I think about it.
Garcia has also shown to have zero answers for Herrera (a guy with losses to Mayfield and Alvarado), had a toss-up with Peterson and a difficult time with an old, shot Judah.
Speed isn't the only factor of beating someone to the punch; timing, distance control and range are all in there. Brook has the advantage in every area.
Khan couldn't embarrass Julio Diaz or Chris Algieri and has been running from Brook for years....never mind Brook, he's not confident of beating any of the top rated guys.
Brook is not a speed fighter by any means, but his hands and body movement in general are well ahead of Garcia. You guys who dislike Brook like to talk about him having to grind out a win against Jones after gassing, Garcia lost comprehensively to Herrera.
Garcia has average at best speed and good timing. Brook has above average speed and excellent timing.
This will be very evident if this fight happens, Brook will beat him without much difficulty.
Not well ahead by any stretch.
Brook hasn't faced a guy who can beat him to the punch yet, and he hasn't looked too fast against his opponents.
Garcia has shown he can handle elite speed (Khan) and elite power (Matthysse).
Most fighters can't handle the shock of being the slower guy when they're used to beating their opponents to the punch all night.
Khan could very well humiliate Brook now that I think about it.
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What sheer nonsense, Brook has mediocre speed, his timing is good but Garcia is recognized as being amongst the very best in terms of timing, and he's timed opponents levels above the garbage Crook has faced.
Crook is Matthysse 2.0, actually he's even more overhyped than Matthysse, who destroyed better opponents than Crook.
Brook is not a speed fighter by any means, but his hands and body movement in general are well ahead of Garcia. You guys who dislike Brook like to talk about him having to grind out a win against Jones after gassing, Garcia lost comprehensively to Herrera.
Garcia has average at best speed and good timing. Brook has above average speed and excellent timing.
This will be very evident if this fight happens, Brook will beat him without much difficulty.
Garcia doesn't look too good against fighters who operate in close, that isn't Brook, Brook has the kind of style that would allow Garcia to be very comfortable within his range. Those looping right hands Garcia loves to throw, best believe it'll land against Brook who can be stiff at times and not move his head. It's like this, Garcia has all the tools to win this one, as does Brook but I'm still reminded of the instances Brook has been hurt before and I think Garcia will put him in those situations again.
It's also important to add that Brook is likely struggling to make 147 as well.
You say "times" as in plural.
Can you refer to at least two times you've seen Brook hurt/wobbly/shook/doing a funny dance/knocked down?
The sad part about Porter if he beats Thurman is that him winning takes Brook's legend to all time heights and will start the conversation of whether he belongs in the Hall of Fame or not among his fans. The more Porter wins the more Brook becomes great.
Although I'm not for counting accomplishments that happen after a fight, case in point Maidana's win over Broner doesn't add to Khan's win.
No not really.
But Porter has proven a hard man to beat and Brook beating him was impressive. As you said so yourself before getting caught up in Khanturd land of "I hate Brook no matter what".
Brook beats everyone now and in history.
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He'd give prime SRL a run for his money.
The sad part about Porter if he beats Thurman is that him winning takes Brook's legend to all time heights and will start the conversation of whether he belongs in the Hall of Fame or not among his fans. The more Porter wins the more Brook becomes great.
Although I'm not for counting accomplishments that happen after a fight, case in point Maidana's win over Broner doesn't add to Khan's win.
Garcia doesn't look too good against fighters who operate in close, that isn't Brook, Brook has the kind of style that would allow Garcia to be very comfortable within his range. Those looping right hands Garcia loves to throw, best believe it'll land against Brook who can be stiff at times and not move his head. It's like this, Garcia has all the tools to win this one, as does Brook but I'm still reminded of the instances Brook has been hurt before and I think Garcia will put him in those situations again.
It's also important to add that Brook is likely struggling to make 147 as well.
The vast majority of people thought Matthysse would destroy Garcia, and laughed at the naysayers who backed Garcia, who turned out to be correct, most people's predictions on boxing doesn't mean a thing you know why?
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So because Garcia beat Matthysse he'll also beat Brook?
Ok then.
Dude, your thread backfired massively.
People think you're an idiot and they agree with me. Actually, kind of a recurring theme on this forum when it comes to you.
the only people who pick Garcia to win are Khanturds :lol1:
That's telling.
The vast majority of people thought Matthysse would destroy Garcia, and laughed at the naysayers who backed Garcia, who turned out to be correct, most people's predictions on boxing doesn't mean a thing you know why?
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