nobody who gets in the ring is a coward and anyone who gets in the ring with the likes of cotto and GGG certainly has some balls on em'.
that said geale did put up a pathetic performance. monroe gave all he had, realized it want enough and called it a day preserving himself for future battles.
geale got hurt and quit, twice. pretty much all great fighters got off the canvas to win, its an ability you need in the fight game. monroe got off the canvas and fought until he had nothing left, geale didnt do that. he was afraid of being knocked out cold and ending up a highlight real KO victim imo and quit with plenty left to give.
i still would never call him a coward, but i dont think you can call him world class after witnessing this not once but twice.
But if he was black you wouldn't say this.
Knowing your limit is certainly the intelligent thing to do. Which is probably why quitting is so reviled around here.
I started in jiu jitsu before boxing and saw many "warriors" get their muscles ripped from the tendon in moronic acts of pride. Sometimes by my own hands. So, my perspective is that sport is sport. Risk your future for your freedom or your family, but not for a sport.
A fan calling a fighter a coward for not continuing is laughable. You can't see through his eyes, feel if his legs are under him, know if he has concussion symptoms, etc.
He just got blasted with a clean left hook and dropped again with a temple shot. It just wasn't his night.
Not to mention two head butts that no one mentions . All after being beaten to a pulp by GGG and drained going in.just saying
Some fighters know their limits, they know when they are done. It might look different to the outside world but when you are in there it is totally different. Some fighters look like they can continue but that's just us looking at the way they are.
Some people just don't understand what it is like to get the wind and sense smacked out of you. In a spar it is enough to make you fall back, but there's the luxury of having a partner whose primary goal is not to cause you as much harm as possible.
You should never call a pro fighter a coward imo.
They have made a profession out of fighting which is something very few men actually do.
It takes great courage to make a living out of the fight game, some people on nsb dont quiet understand what it really takes to actually do it for real.
One poster went on a bit of a tirade about geale saying he has no balls but he has probably never put on a pair of boxing gloves in his life.
Its easy to sit back in your chair and be critical of these guys but some people dont know what fighters have to go through to fight at the highest level.
I would never call "coward" or "quitter" a boxer and truthfully, I don't get it. I mean the guys step into a ring knowing that they're gonna get punched hard and that's those punches are gonna hurt them potentially very very bad, how could someone call these guys cowards or else.
I've sparred a few times with 18oz and get hit with a few good punches and it wasn't the most pleasant moment of my life, so without gear and with 8-10oz gloves, no thanks.
Bottom line for me, Hat's off to all the fighters stepping up inside a ring or cage or whatever (without exceptions).
that usually comes from people who've never actually taken punches before.
a fan calling a fighter a coward for not continuing is laughable. You can't see through his eyes, feel if his legs are under him, know if he has concussion symptoms, etc.
He just got blasted with a clean left hook and dropped again with a temple shot. It just wasn't his night.
some fighters know their limits, they know when they are done. It might look different to the outside world but when you are in there it is totally different. Some fighters look like they can continue but that's just us looking at the way they are.
exactly!!!!!
nobody who gets in the ring is a coward and anyone who gets in the ring with the likes of cotto and GGG certainly has some balls on em'.
that said geale did put up a pathetic performance. monroe gave all he had, realized it want enough and called it a day preserving himself for future battles.
geale got hurt and quit, twice. pretty much all great fighters got off the canvas to win, its an ability you need in the fight game. monroe got off the canvas and fought until he had nothing left, geale didnt do that. he was afraid of being knocked out cold and ending up a highlight real KO victim imo and quit with plenty left to give.
i still would never call him a coward, but i dont think you can call him world class after witnessing this not once but twice.
So that would make you a certified biatch in real life then. Don't worry, I knew that.
you're the biggest pansy on this board, let's not proceed like that isn't fact. fukn clown.
That usually comes from people who've never actually taken punches before.
this is all that needs to be said on the subject and nothing more.
you talk about "coward" and "no heart" all i see is a poser who wouldn't be able to hack it for 3 rounds. women.
It depends, obviously. When Cotto didn't continue against Margarito, that was highly, highly understandable. I've never blamed him. He gave everything he had. Continuing that fight accomplishes nothing but hurting him even more.
I don't think Geale gave everything he had. Maybe he was drained, but he could still fight. So yeah, I'd say he just quit.
Just the left hook? Or should we start with the head butt to the jaw that led up to the left hook?
Exactly. It was a double whammy. You think he should be able to fight through that?
the moment that first left hook to the body landed, the thought of quitting probably entered his mind
I believe this 100%. Hell I'm sure he strongly considered in his mind to wave the white flag after the first KD (which was brutal), but decided to give it one more go...and then once he went down the 2nd time, he was like f**k it, I'm going back to Australia.
Depends, last night however was quitting. He's done that twice in a row, new Victor Ortiz. I can understand if you're taking a lot of punishment but he was having a tough moment in a fight and quick, there have been comebacks from worse situations than that. Respect to all fighters but you're a fighter and getting punched is part of the job, a sprinter can't stop mid race cause he's tired.
why is it that when a fighter decides he doesnt want to take any more punishment, fans/audience label them as a coward or a quitter?
of course it is, especially if youve barely boxed 4 rounds against a much smaller man
Then don't be a boxer. Getting hit is part of the deal and why they get paid so well. After the first knockdown he decided that the next clean punch would be his last. His effort was pathetic.
Exactly.
They don't tbh.
Quitting is a hard word. You train 8-10 weeks for a big fight, you don't throw that away in a second for no reason. Only the fighter himself knows if he is ok. Look at Tyson vs. Golota. Golota wanted the fight to be stopped after round 1. His corner forced him to go another round. After the second round he asked the referee to stop the fight. Everyone was calling him a quitter but when he got his post fight examination in the hospital it was revealed that a split of a bone in his head could have pierced his brain if he took one more punch. Imagine if he had continued...
Geale could have stayed down easily but he actually tried. Look at Geale after the first and second knockdown. What is the significant difference here?
After the first knockdown Geale did the right thing and stayed down till 9. That is what he is supposed to do. After the second knockdown you see him get up very early which is not a good sign. If a fighter is good after a knockdown he will try to stay down as long as possible. Fighters who are too damaged usually get up more quickly because the are basically not concious enough to force themselves to stay down longer.
If you have seen Geale fight before (not only the GGG fight) you will recognize that Geale was a different fighter. Nothing was really working for him. Bad footwork and all the fluidity in his punches was gone. He made his name outworkling opponents. Every of his assets were not there the whole night. When he got up after that second knockdown he realised he got no business in there. He wasn't too far away from getting stopped anyway.
I never do like n the case of willie Monroe, he was finished. However, what geale did was not the same. He decided to bail on the fight and collect his pay. Very poor effort.
True, Monroe took a beating, but atleast Geale wasn't trying to pull a fast one by getting up at the count of 10 like other btches have done i.e Ortiz vs Matthysse and then whine how the ref called it off too early.
Was funny when the ref let Monroe's action slide and then his true intent was exposed.
That's because they both know their limits, there are different limits for different people (Boxers included), they know when they are done. For me it's not cowardly to recognise where your endurance limit is.
Well, same here man, same here.
Alvarado-Provodnikov/ Rios III
Golovkin-Monroe
Cotto-Margarito I
Pacquiao-DLH
List goes on and on.