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Man you guys are on some good meds or smoking some straight kill to still actually believe that this man floyd mayweather is not ducking manny. I just can't understand how anybody can stick up for floyd. When it comes to manny o he acts like a straight lil b!!!h. Floyd isn't duran,leonard,hagler,hearns,chavez none of them. You know why cause he's b!!!! Made and they weren't.

lol, that moron has that many bodyguards? For what? Hes a c list celebrity. Bigger and more known stars don't even have body guards like that. He needs bodyguards for a reason. 99.99% has to do with his "persona" I bet.

There is an obstacle in place...Bob Arum. People think Floyd and Arum just started not working together ever since Pacquiao came into the picture. Floyd and Arum stopped working together since the Zab Judah fight. Everyone that Floyd fought that was in Top Rank had to actually LEAVE Top Rank to fight Floyd. Similarly, Floyd also had to LEAVE Top Rank to get the Oscar de la Hoya fight. It's not a coincidence that everyone Mayweather "supposely" ducked is a Top Rank fighter. Once Miguel Cotto left Top Rank, guess what? He immediately got the Floyd fight. lol, he fought Cotto because he was already softened up by 2 KO losses. Do you really think Floyd fights Cotto in 08 if Bob wasn't around? Paul Williams wasn't promoted by Bob. He didn't get a fight either.

Sheeesh your playing on words as usual , major hurdle means its complicated to make a deal where everybody is happy , they are grinding it out because everybody wants the fight , these people drive very hard bargains and this involves massive amounts of money , I really think you don't see how big and involved this fight is , Ive never said anything will derail the fight , derail means wont happen , if you follow my posts Im one of the ones that believes the fight will happen . Its about impatience with you and Im trying to tell you this thing will take time to nail down . I'm not playing with you're words haha, but it was an over exaggeration. I do understand how massive this fight is, as I was the one saying this fight would have a 200 mill purse, while everyone else laughed, so yes. Anyways, yes you have never wavered in your opinion that this fight will happen, that is true. Edit: Just to add yes i am extremely impatient on this matter. I have waited 5 years and I don't want to wait a second longer. Just announce the ****ing thing already!

WTF? Are you serious? Let me explain something to you about journalism because you obviously don't know a damn thing. Real journalists, not bloggers, operate on facts, not speculation. When I was a journalist in a previous career, you could be damn sure that, if I printed anything, even from an anonymous source, it would be confirmed at some point in the future or I would risk losing my job. There hasn't been a single word that Lance Pugmire has written that has been confirmed by any official source. No one from HBO, Showtime, the Mayweather camp or even Top Rank have confirmed a single damn word that Lance Pugmire has written. Until it is confirmed by an official source, it is all speculation. Lazy bloggers like Pugmire and Fat Dan can and do post any damn thing that they want and if the information turns out not to be true, they suffer no consequences and act as if nothing happened and people like you continue to believe whatever bullsh.t they may post in the future. Everyone knows you're a fargin idiot. stfu already.

lol, that moron has that many bodyguards? For what? Hes a c list celebrity. Bigger and more known stars don't even have body guards like that.

like the Patriots, Floyd has deflated balls http://gifrific.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/Kevin-Garnett-Reaction-at-2013-Dunk-Contest.gif

That is still a Floyd issue. Cotto still works with Arum, Manny still works with Arum, Oscar is now back to being on good terms with Arum and have a working relationship. The entire boxing community (outside of Showtime, apparently) works with Arum. I really don't see Bob Arum as the issue here, no matter how much Floyd insists it is. You're right in a sense that a lot of fighters do have a working relationship with Arum. Arum has a good stable of fighters and I guess they would have to work with him to make the fights. Floyd, unfortunately is not in that position where he needs to chase pound for pound number 2,3,4 etc when he's pound for pound number 1. It's them that needs to chase him. (Isn't that how it always works? Didn't Mosley have to leave GoldenBoy to get the Pacquiao fight? Didn't Tim Bradley have to sign a contract with TR to get the same fight?) But just like you can't see Arum being the issue here. I can't really say the guy who is the one offering, making phone calls, etc is the one scared to make the fight. (Not saying Pacquiao is scared either). I, along with a lot of my friends who are fans of Pacquiao, agreed that 60/40 split was more than fair. I would think if Mayweather really didn't want the fight, his offer would be more outrageous hoping they would turn it down. The crazy thing is, even I know that negotiations aren't as simple as Bob Arum makes it seem. Every negotiations, he just seems so unrealistic about it. "Oh yeah, we agreed to everything. Blood test, money etc. We settled everything. Just like that. It's that simple." But we got Espinoza here saying something else. So obviously Arum hasn't settled everything. Let's be honest, we know however many million dollars in any situation being involved in any decision making is never that simple. Floyd may not be saying the things we want him to say and his answers may not be as definite as Arums, but maybe that's because the negotiations are still ongoing and the fight itself is not...definite.

That is still a Floyd issue. Cotto still works with Arum, Manny still works with Arum, Oscar is now back to being on good terms with Arum and have a working relationship. The entire boxing community (outside of Showtime, apparently) works with Arum. I really don't see Bob Arum as the issue here, no matter how much Floyd insists it is. Cotto is a free agent and not contracted to anybody , Floyds promotions can handle a Cotto fight with nothing to do with Bob at all .

You said major hurdle; the definition of a major hurdle is something that can derail the fight. The network issues is not going to derail the fight. Sheeesh your playing on words as usual , major hurdle means its complicated to make a deal where everybody is happy , they are grinding it out because everybody wants the fight , these people drive very hard bargains and this involves massive amounts of money , I really think you don't see how big and involved this fight is , Ive never said anything will derail the fight , derail means wont happen , if you follow my posts Im one of the ones that believes the fight will happen . Its about impatience with you and Im trying to tell you this thing will take time to nail down .

There is an obstacle in place...Bob Arum. People think Floyd and Arum just started not working together ever since Pacquiao came into the picture. Floyd and Arum stopped working together since the Zab Judah fight. Everyone that Floyd fought that was in Top Rank had to actually LEAVE Top Rank to fight Floyd. Similarly, Floyd also had to LEAVE Top Rank to get the Oscar de la Hoya fight. It's not a coincidence that everyone Mayweather "supposely" ducked is a Top Rank fighter. Once Miguel Cotto left Top Rank, guess what? He immediately got the Floyd fight. That is still a Floyd issue. Cotto still works with Arum, Manny still works with Arum, Oscar is now back to being on good terms with Arum and have a working relationship. The entire boxing community (outside of Showtime, apparently) works with Arum. I really don't see Bob Arum as the issue here, no matter how much Floyd insists it is.

Would be cool having a absolutely jaw dropping commercial come out of nowhere on Super Bowl Sunday announcing the fight. Both walk out from a dimly lit background with some sort of rising music playing. Turn facing each other. It's Time.... Commercial abruptly ends. Of course, I'm already a little buzzed, so excuse me for wishful shit that will never happen.

Can't trust Arum. Can't trust Floyd. Can't trust anybody. I'm getting sick of this and I even tried to avoid looking into this dumb fight.

They are not derailing it they are having meetings between the CEOS to make the deal , you are like a wet blanket , where did I ever say they don't want it lol , I think you better read what is said because its you that needs to get real . You said major hurdle; the definition of a major hurdle is something that can derail the fight. The network issues is not going to derail the fight.

I can't post big posts (so im leaving out your quote) to bigjames10 I had this huge post typed up, with a bunch of retorts, but i decided against it. As i was finishing i just remembered that you're the guy who said pacquiao didn't make 23 million against algeri, because "I don't think he did". Why even argue with an idiot who doesn't have an objective bone in his body. I'm done here. Btw calling them lazy is way way way out of bounds, seriously. Douchebag.

Only person I trust in this is Lance Pugmire. So what he says I'll roll with.

The networks want this as badly as we do. So just stop it with that nonsense. Major hurdle suggests it could derail the fight. No way REAL businessmen derail a 300 million dollar project because they don't like each other or are competitors. Get real. They are not derailing it they are having meetings between the CEOS to make the deal , you are like a wet blanket , where did I ever say they don't want it lol , I think you better read what is said because its you that needs to get real .

Track records speak for themselves. Has Pac ever had any negotiations linger for this long, and be this difficult to make? JMM called out Floyd in one post fight interview, and bam, he gets the fight. Pacquiao has been calling Floyd the past 5 years, and Floyd acts like there are still obstacles in place. There is an obstacle in place...Bob Arum. People think Floyd and Arum just started not working together ever since Pacquiao came into the picture. Floyd and Arum stopped working together since the Zab Judah fight. Everyone that Floyd fought that was in Top Rank had to actually LEAVE Top Rank to fight Floyd. Similarly, Floyd also had to LEAVE Top Rank to get the Oscar de la Hoya fight. It's not a coincidence that everyone Mayweather "supposely" ducked is a Top Rank fighter. Once Miguel Cotto left Top Rank, guess what? He immediately got the Floyd fight.

Well if you had actually been following negotiations then you would know Lance has been really up to date on stuff. I mean ask anyone following negotiations, ask some of "them". :pat::pat::pat: WTF? Are you serious? Let me explain something to you about journalism because you obviously don't know a damn thing. Real journalists, not bloggers, operate on facts, not speculation. When I was a journalist in a previous career, you could be damn sure that, if I printed anything, even from an anonymous source, it would be confirmed at some point in the future or I would risk losing my job. There hasn't been a single word that Lance Pugmire has written that has been confirmed by any official source. No one from HBO, Showtime, the Mayweather camp or even Top Rank have confirmed a single damn word that Lance Pugmire has written. Until it is confirmed by an official source, it is all speculation. Lazy bloggers like Pugmire and Fat Dan can and do post any damn thing that they want and if the information turns out not to be true, they suffer no consequences and act as if nothing happened and people like you continue to believe whatever bullsh.t they may post in the future.

Don't you understand this is the biggest fight in history with 2 opposing networks and promoters involved , its only ever been done once before and this is more involved than that was . Mannys fights are all in house promoted by Bob off course its a formality to make them , same goes for Floyd when has he ever had problems making a fight . This thing is huge , and the networks are a major hurdle , Showtime must get the bigger deal because their fighter costs them much more than Manny costs HBO , so its very complicated to make a deal where both sides are happy . The networks want this as badly as we do. So just stop it with that nonsense. Major hurdle suggests it could derail the fight. No way REAL businessmen derail a 300 million dollar project because they don't like each other or are competitors. Get real.