The kid just fought a ATG legend of the sport and it showed that there are good fighters and there are GREATS...
He beat a guy in Provodnikov who dismantled Alvarado, gave Bradley his toughest fight ever, and nobody is jumping at the chance to fight at 140.
I think Chris, the same as a Robert Guerrero, or even Maidana, is a good solid fighter but when you face an ATG, you see the obvious difference in skill set.
Hope we see the kid back in the ring against top guys at 140. I still think he could beat a Vargas or Herrera or even Garcia if he could avoid the left hook.
Floyd and Manny are once in a generation talents, instead of downplaying their opponents we should just recognize how great they really are and enjoy it while it lasts cause I don't see anyone coming up with the kind of talent these 2 have brought us.
I don't think he is a bum at all. He has great skills when he is able to work and mount some sort of offense. Last night Pac's power kept him from sticking his jab out there and new right off that he wasn't the fighter that could beat Manny last night. He has very little one punch power, thin and not super durable compared to guys like Garcia, Judah, Pac, and seeming to have a weak chin but decent recovery. I new all this crap before last night, why is everyone freaking out acting like he's been exposed? Did none of yall watch him fight Taylor or Ruslan? He's like an optical allusion....he is very thin but don't write him off yet. Needs a new trainer and team pronto though...
If he stays focused and keeps working at it for a couple more years Algieri can be a fantastic, ATG boxer. He has everything to achieve that, just wasnt ready for Pac, as we all knew.
He's weak. He's scared. He only beats stationary fighters like Prov and Taylor. He's fought and beat nothing but literally taxi cab drivers outside of Prov, Taylor (And now Pac.) He's a nobody.
Lmao, the Taylor fight showed what a bum Broner is going life and death with that dude.
Still Taylor win got hype because he's black so they assume he's skilled.
He's weak. He's scared. He only beats stationary fighters like Prov and Taylor. He's fought and beat nothing but literally taxi cab drivers outside of Prov, Taylor (And now Pac.) He's a nobody.
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Nsb post fight.
This happens all the time
For the next week troll meter will be super high.
Algeiri gives anybody problems with his punch out put and legendary conditioning.
He was too inexperienced to give PAC trouble last night
Pretty much this^^^^^^^
Chris just doesn't have the experience to handle manny.. He was so nervous..
Algieri would be a tough out for nearly everyone at 140..
Well, no. He's not a bum. But let's face it, neither is he world class or top champion material. We won't know for sure for some time, but right now, the guy isn't anything at all to write home about. He won a title off an incredibly limited paper titlist in a lower division and got shown for what he is, as did the guy he won it off. That being a standard top ten contender/domestic level fighter at best. I've got to say though. The fact that Pac can fight this level of opponent with seeming impunity is incredibly laughable.
Let's put it this way. If another certain someone had fought this guy, particularly after dragging him from a lower division, that certain someone would have been crucified from here to eternity and back for all time ie eternity.
It's a joke that such a double standard exists and doesn't get looked at with any sense of comparison, because it was bad enough with someone like a veteran, multiple time, multiple division champ coming off a world class win at the peak of his career, let alone someone of this caliber. Funny stuff...in a very, very sad way.
As for comparing him to Maidana...well, I've already shown that to be absurd really, or even Guerrero. That's also absurd.
Before this fight, Algieri had fought champions, former and present, a whopping once in his entire career. He'd fought title challengers a whopping great 0 times. Yes, that's zero times. He'd fought top ten contenders a whopping great 0, yes another zero, times too!
All up, he's fought quite literally **** all. The highest guy he's fought was Taylor, who was rated fourth by the IBF at his best, and about 20-30 in the world rankings. Apart from that comes his only 'top' win, against the limited but sometimes powerful slugger Provodnikov. An arguable decision shall we say, but let's leave it there.
So, here is a guy with one questionable top win, and nothing else to speak of being compared to two long time, veteran, multiple division and multiple time champions who have proved their worth over and over by fighting and beating the best and doing it against other world rated champions across many years. How do you think to compare these guys again?
This right here says all you ever need to know about the laughable bias and double standard. Pacquiao fights a literal no name opponent, brand new paper titlist, with literally one questionable top win on his resume, and makes him move up to a catch weight and it gets compared to Maidana and Guerrero. Urgh....this place...:nonono:
The problem is that you can't say all that about Floyd's questionable fighters. In other words, you are NOT being honest with yourself.
It is very comparable to Floyd's opponents. The difference is that when Floyd fights these type of fights, you Floyd fans throw out all logic and just bring up the fact that they have a title or were P4P fighters BUT you don't analyze it the way you just did with Algieri.
Why don't you try to analyze where Guerrero, as an example, was the year before fighting Floyd? Same with Marquez, Hatton, Ortiz, Maidana. It's all smoke and mirrors once you get the courage to analyze it the way you did with Algieri ............ Try it out for the giggles ....... GO!!!!
Algieri is a bum anybody who thinks he is not don't know crap about boxing PERIOD. he was on espn fighting bums befor he fought Prov his first step up figth that many think he lost
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He's no bum, I can see him bouncing back after this loss, he has a good boxing technique to beat a lot of fighters at 140.
I would like to see him fight a rematch with Prov or a fight with Vargas, and maybe we can see a fight with Crawford vs Algieri in 2015.
Fighters that I think he can beat are.
Prov
Herrera
Vargas
DeMarco
Giving labels and titles is the misnomer.
No one is great from the get to, it's a process. Muhammad Ali wasn't great in his first few fights - he had to prove it. And so for all the greats now.
When Pacquiao fought Lebwada (sp?) and Marco Antonio Barrera, many thought he was too "green" also. But Pacquiao had to prove himself over time.
Algieri could very well be great later if he continues to put it the great work ethics, enthusiasm and if he finds a great trainer to pair with.
oh lord the depth you guys go
There's no embarrassment in losing....only in not trying. Algieri, at least, have shown a propensity for his enthusiasm, hard work and the will. He was a former kickboxer with a college degree who entered the ring last night.
If anything, that's a testament to his positive mind and willful action. I hope for him to continue his good job.
It's not an embarrassment that he lost but that he was in that ring to begin with.
Nice guy and college education is huge in my world so good for him
He's got a Masters so he's not a bum but he's not a good fighter.
Last night was am embarrassment for the sportThere's no embarrassment in losing....only in not trying. Algieri, at least, have shown a propensity for his enthusiasm, hard work and the will. He was a former kickboxer with a college degree who entered the ring last night.
If anything, that's a testament to his positive mind and willful action. I hope for him to continue his good job.
Well, no. He's not a bum. But let's face it, neither is he world class or top champion material. We won't know for sure for some time, but right now, the guy isn't anything at all to write home about. He won a title off an incredibly limited paper titlist in a lower division and got shown for what he is, as did the guy he won it off. That being a standard top ten contender/domestic level fighter at best. I've got to say though. The fact that Pac can fight this level of opponent with seeming impunity is incredibly laughable.
Let's put it this way. If another certain someone had fought this guy, particularly after dragging him from a lower division, that certain someone would have been crucified from here to eternity and back for all time ie eternity.
It's a joke that such a double standard exists and doesn't get looked at with any sense of comparison, because it was bad enough with someone like a veteran, multiple time, multiple division champ coming off a world class win at the peak of his career, let alone someone of this caliber. Funny stuff...in a very, very sad way.
As for comparing him to Maidana...well, I've already shown that to be absurd really, or even Guerrero. That's also absurd.
Before this fight, Algieri had fought champions, former and present, a whopping once in his entire career. He'd fought title challengers a whopping great 0 times. Yes, that's zero times. He'd fought top ten contenders a whopping great 0, yes another zero, times too!
All up, he's fought quite literally **** all. The highest guy he's fought was Taylor, who was rated fourth by the IBF at his best, and about 20-30 in the world rankings. Apart from that comes his only 'top' win, against the limited but sometimes powerful slugger Provodnikov. An arguable decision shall we say, but let's leave it there.
So, here is a guy with one questionable top win, and nothing else to speak of being compared to two long time, veteran, multiple division and multiple time champions who have proved their worth over and over by fighting and beating the best and doing it against other world rated champions across many years. How do you think to compare these guys again?
This right here says all you ever need to know about the laughable bias and double standard. Pacquiao fights a literal no name opponent, brand new paper titlist, with literally one questionable top win on his resume, and makes him move up to a catch weight and it gets compared to Maidana and Guerrero. Urgh....this place...:nonono:
Giving labels and titles is the misnomer.
No one is great from the get to, it's a process. Muhammad Ali wasn't great in his first few fights - he had to prove it. And so for all the greats now.
When Pacquiao fought Lebwada (sp?) and Marco Antonio Barrera, many thought he was too "green" also. But Pacquiao had to prove himself over time.
Algieri could very well be great later if he continues to put it the great work ethics, enthusiasm and if he finds a great trainer to pair with.
He is a C- level fighter at best. He is 5'10" which gives him an advantage with him fighting at 147 and below. The cage gate door got jammed last night from the looks of it. This fight was a sham. PERIOD.