In your opinion what is the state of Boxing?

It goes up and down, every 5 years. When Mayweather and Pacquaio retire, it'll be a big blow to the PPV numbers, but new stars will replace them. Boxing will never die. So I voted stagnant. But I'll actually say it's growing a bit at the moment, just slowly. Just like the economy.

I think boxing is generally declining. There are a lot of really good fighters out there, but I don't see many great young fighters. Who will be the next Ali, Leonard, Duran, or Mayweather? I don't know if I've seen any young fighters out there with the potential to be placed among boxing's elite. The constant horrendous judging is also really bad for boxing. It makes boxing lose what credibility it has left. This happens with every generation in Boxing. When Ali retired there will be no one to carry boxing, when Sugar Ray Leonard retired, when Tyson retired, when Oscar retired, etc, etc. I do agree with you about the judges though. Referees and judges will always be a constant problem in combat sports imo.

I think boxing is generally declining. There are a lot of really good fighters out there, but I don't see many great young fighters. Who will be the next Ali, Leonard, Duran, or Mayweather? I don't know if I've seen any young fighters out there with the potential to be placed among boxing's elite. The constant horrendous judging is also really bad for boxing. It makes boxing lose what credibility it has left.

Idk where you guys are getting your info/numbers but UFC is not even close to Boxing fanbase globally.

UFC gave boxing a hit, and then it kinda evened out. But according to tv numbers and advertising budget, UFC is again applying pressure on boxing, and kinda kicking its ass. UFC is doing everything to get more mainstream, get as many viewers as possible. While boxing is increasingly playing to a small isolated niche, and losing all casual watchers. It's not surprising boxing is declining because how long can boxing keep on surviving corruption and controversy in the name of short term profits for the few? These problems might not effect the hardcore fans, but you can bet your ass when a casual sees or reads about the multiple fiascos involving Lamont Peterson, they write the sport off. When 75% of the fights are just jokes, why would anybody a hardcore boxing fan watch? Boxing will survive, but it will increasingly become an isolated sport. Among the young, there is no comparison. The young HATE boxing, and UFC completely dominates it. And frankly, considering how abysmal boxing is, I'm actually glad. I'd what numbers your looking at but ufc ppv numbers have sunk like a torpedoed ship in the last 3 years. Boxing might outsell it in ppv buys with half as many ppvs. Ufc on Fox struggles to get 2m views on a platform of 130m. Ufc is more popular among the young but boxing has just as big as base imo. Ufc has more casual s still. They do a better job with promoting. It's not even close.

UFC gave boxing a hit, and then it kinda evened out. But according to tv numbers and advertising budget, UFC is again applying pressure on boxing, and kinda kicking its ass. UFC is doing everything to get more mainstream, get as many viewers as possible. While boxing is increasingly playing to a small isolated niche, and losing all casual watchers. It's not surprising boxing is declining because how long can boxing keep on surviving corruption and controversy in the name of short term profits for the few? These problems might not effect the hardcore fans, but you can bet your ass when a casual sees or reads about the multiple fiascos involving Lamont Peterson, they write the sport off. When 75% of the fights are just jokes, why would anybody a hardcore boxing fan watch? Boxing will survive, but it will increasingly become an isolated sport. Among the young, there is no comparison. The young HATE boxing, and UFC completely dominates it. And frankly, considering how abysmal boxing is, I'm actually glad.

2014 has been boxing's worst year for as long as i can remember. Why are no good matchups getting made this year? That's just not even remotely true. In the last 4-5 months we have only had a few weekends without subscription TV boxing. It's not as far as great as last year but how could it be. Bernstein said it was his best year since the 80s. Their have been some really solid match ups this year as well.

I'm not too worried about the talent and such, not even much about the fights that are being made. To me boxing is starting to lose some boxers with some charisma that attract the people. Floyd and Manny are heading for the exit, but are still pretty much the main attractions. Most discussions are about them, emotions fly highest when it's about them. I see no other boxer atm who has that kind of potential except for perhaps Canelo, but he would need to start speaking English. Same goes for a lot of the other current talent imho.

Fighters are getting paid a ridiculous amount of money Thanks to the many social media outlets fighters are getting 100x more exposure and the 80,000 Groves/Froch fight showed that boxing is growing and thriving. Only negative IMO is the still lack of serious testing in a combat sport

Truth is only garbage when it doesn't paint the best picture of manny. fans such as yourself are easily exposed and dismissed. If you don't have a problem with Bob/Manny getting millions for easy fights, stop getting mad if broner, danny or any other haymon fighter get a few hundred thou for the same kind of crap. Wouldn't it be nice if we could all fight a 14-1 underdog. Man, I wish broner/danny/Floyd were fighting algieiri next then we could really find out what guys like you HONESTLY think about him. Re you fking serious? Maidana opened at 18-1 underdog to Floyd the first time and closed at 14-1 in lots of places. And what's the excuse for the last 3 years after Manny agreed to the testing and less money? You're the biggest idiot Floyd ball gobbler on here. I hope you disappear with that fraud.

I don't know how it is in some parts of the globe but from where I live it's been at an all time low. I started watching with a large circle of relatives and friends. Now I'm all alone. I canceled my subscriptions and discovered the world of streaming, out of necessity. I'll watch if they're available. Otherwise, I'm content reading who won/lost after the fight is over. Where are you from?

That's recycled garbage. World knows who the established duck is. Floyd being a duck is general knowledge and been in world encyclopedias for a long time now. The guy who calls himself "Money" ducked the biggest money fight of all time. The embarrassing thing about it is he's the biggest roider in the sport. He still got no balls to fight the Pacman, who agreed to unlimited urine and 3 blood tests. VADA takes one blood test and they were catching cheats left and right. TMT fighters are getting caught left and right by mere urine. Pederson and Berto got caught by VADA by urine sample taken 3 months before the fight. Roidweather got away with 3 positive test results and still able to fool people. Keep fooling yourself. Truth is only garbage when it doesn't paint the best picture of manny. fans such as yourself are easily exposed and dismissed. If you don't have a problem with Bob/Manny getting millions for easy fights, stop getting mad if broner, danny or any other haymon fighter get a few hundred thou for the same kind of crap. Wouldn't it be nice if we could all fight a 14-1 underdog. Man, I wish broner/danny/Floyd were fighting algieiri next then we could really find out what guys like you HONESTLY think about him.

that sounds exactly like a fighter we all know that turned down the biggest fight ever over drug testing and then turned down $40 mil (no ppv) so he could continue to make millions fighting lesser opponents. That's recycled garbage. World knows who the established duck is. Floyd being a duck is general knowledge and been in world encyclopedias for a long time now. The guy who calls himself "Money" ducked the biggest money fight of all time. The embarrassing thing about it is he's the biggest roider in the sport. He still got no balls to fight the Pacman, who agreed to unlimited urine and 3 blood tests. VADA takes one blood test and they were catching cheats left and right. TMT fighters are getting caught left and right by mere urine. Pederson and Berto got caught by VADA by urine sample taken 3 months before the fight. Roidweather got away with 3 positive test results and still able to fool people. Keep fooling yourself.

Funny thing is, don't know if it's coincidence or not, Haymon fighters started saying, "boxing is business." Even Broner, for the first time, echoed in his interview with Kenny what Peterson and Garcia have been mentioning, "boxing is business." They're happy getting hundreds of thousands of dollars, if not millions, for fighting less risky fights. Who can blame them if you have Haymon aided by Espinosa acting like Santa Claus? The downside is meaningful fights are getting more and more expensive to make. that sounds exactly like a fighter we all know that turned down the biggest fight ever over drug testing and then turned down $40 mil (no ppv) so he could continue to make millions fighting lesser opponents.

My problem with this era is that its the reality tv boxing era. Too much hype not enough pay off. Fighters act like they are doing fans a favor when they fight someone they're supposed to be fighting. 147 is stacked right now but you wouldnt know it because most of these guys are looking for soft touches and claim greatness when they beat one person worth a damn. The big 2 need to go as well. Their presence just helps facilitate the problem. They are not going to fight eachother and are just wasting everyones time. Also how about the networks wait and see how a fighter does before they start telling us their the greatest thing since sliced bread. The fans are another issue. Too many nuthuggers for one fighter or another. Fans should be able to call bull**** when they see it. The "well he does it" should never be an excuse for any of them. This x1000. Fighters act like they're doing us a favor, and in turn, fans believe a fighter deserves extra credit for fighting top opposition. That's what we should expect from them! Fans are enablers, and that's the reason why we get cards like Garcia/Salka on premium cable. Fans will ***** and complain, but still tune in or buy tickets. The media will complain, but still cover the event. Jacobs/Fletcher was the best match-up, that's how bad the card was. As of the OP, there's been good and bad like every year. My memory sucks, so I can't tell you which outweighs the other. I just try to look for the good. This week's FNF has a decent main event, and the Porter-Brook card is pretty good. Matts/Ortiz could be a barn-burner, N'Dam/Stevens will be interesting, Estrada-Segura will definitely be good and we got B-Hop/Kovalev.

Funny thing is, don't know if it's coincidence or not, Haymon fighters started saying, "boxing is business." Even Broner, for the first time, echoed in his interview with Kenny what Peterson and Garcia have been mentioning, "boxing is business." They're happy getting hundreds of thousands of dollars, if not millions, for fighting less risky fights. Who can blame them if you have Haymon aided by Espinosa acting like Santa Claus? The downside is meaningful fights are getting more and more expensive to make. Yeah I caught that as well, Peterson, Garcia and Broner saying "BOXING IS A BUSINESS" which it is but you have to accomplish something FIRST, it become a business once you reach and certain level and NEITHER of them should be in position to pick and choose fights based on just Money

My problem with this era is that its the reality tv boxing era. Too much hype not enough pay off. Fighters act like they are doing fans a favor when they fight someone they're supposed to be fighting. 147 is stacked right now but you wouldnt know it because most of these guys are looking for soft touches and claim greatness when they beat one person worth a damn. The big 2 need to go as well. Their presence just helps facilitate the problem. They are not going to fight eachother and are just wasting everyones time. Also how about the networks wait and see how a fighter does before they start telling us their the greatest thing since sliced bread. The fans are another issue. Too many nuthuggers for one fighter or another. Fans should be able to call bull**** when they see it. The "well he does it" should never be an excuse for any of them.

Funny thing is, don't know if it's coincidence or not, Haymon fighters started saying, "boxing is business." Even Broner, for the first time, echoed in his interview with Kenny what Peterson and Garcia have been mentioning, "boxing is business." They're happy getting hundreds of thousands of dollars, if not millions, for fighting less risky fights. Who can blame them if you have Haymon aided by Espinosa acting like Santa Claus? The downside is meaningful fights are getting more and more expensive to make.

Once Pacquiao, Mayweather, Cotto, JMM all step away...boxing will go through a struggle period for awhile unfortunately. Reason why because the Sport Of Boxing don't have Loyal Fans, BOXERS DO! Look at this forum for example, 98% of the Threads are just full of negativity, it is absolutely no other sport in which their forums just talk bad about their sport and the athletes who participate in it. Also think Networks, Boxing Media and Promotions all do just a sh1t job at promotion the sport they cover, their way of promotion is all out of date, they still using Commercials and Radio Ads which is just a waste of Money because people are watching everything online now, everybody is on Twitter and Instagram most of the day. I see fighters now interviewing with a lot of the youtube Boxing Channels which is smart but still I think GBP and Top Rank need YOUNGER GUYS which fresh and up to date ideas. UFC knows how to appeal to the younger crowd, they have Apps, have a App for your video game system, also have a popular video game, all these things taps into that younger demographic who will grow up UFC FANS so when they get older and start to work and make their money, guess what they will buy? UFC EVENTS! Boxing don't have any of this stuff. So because the SPORT itself really doesn't have a Loyal Fanbase, in the US at least, boxing will fall on tough times once their current top draws are done. But outside of the US especially UK I think Boxing will be just fine and will continue to grow and flourish their, Americans might have to run and sign with Eddie Hearns in the future because the state of boxing in the US could be in serious trouble if Networks and Promotions don't start to work together. Pacquiao vs Mayweather is something the sports NEEDS before they step away, put aside the silly crap and who fault is what, wash all of that past BS away and come together and give the fans at least that 1 Mega Event in which it is Pacquiao vs Mayweather as the Mainevent and on the undercard nothing but young talented guy who could possibly carry the torch once those two are done. Boxing owes that to its fans at least.

As long as we get the 1's vs. the 2's fighting each other when they should I'm OK. I'm only concerned with the best fighting the best. Over the past year or so we got these that have already happened or are scheduled. Garcia/Matthysse Floyd/Canelo Canelo/Lara Rigondeaux/Donaire Chocolito/Yaegashi Wlad/Pulev A lot of champions in these other divisions need to get their **** together. When boxing stops becoming about the best vs. the best, then its on its last leg.