How do you grade the beating Matthysse put on Molina?

He took a prolonged beating, especially in rounds 8-10, which is worse than getting sparked in just a round or two. Whether its career ending remains to be seen, but a beating like that will take something out of any fighter. He virtually just collapsed in the last knockdown. Molina has some f'n balls though. The ring doctor was basically giving him a way out but he decided to go out on his shield.

Tell that to Corrales after the Castillo fight. It was a great fight and I loved it, but Lucas didn't put on a beating as it was competitive and not one sided. I always rated Lucas above Maidana, because he seems more refined. If he can mix it up well we both watched the Peterson, Soto and Olusegen fights didn't we?

matthysse went life and death with molina. i was one of many who thought it would just be another feel good fight for matthysse but after the first bell rang, i seriously thought molina might pull off a ko win. if he just used a lot more head movement and some footwork, molina could've won Posted from Boxingscene.com App for Android

It's not a beating when you yourself get knocked down twice. Tell that to Corrales after the Castillo fight.

Demarco did it in 1 round Demarco also got beaten to bits by Broner..........AT 135, just like Molina got beaten by DeMarco at 135.

What grade do you give it? Molina is a rough, tough boxer who can take massive punishment and has massive power. He'll be ok in the future, causing more upset victories against favored up and comers but that beating did take something out of him. You could see it at the end of the fight, he was broken and couldn't believe he got ground down. It won't be a physical thing but it may be mental the next time he drops someone and they come back.

It's not a beating when you yourself get knocked down twice. It was a comeback beating.

To make things clear, my B-(B minus) is not the same B in the poll that was put up after my post. Obviously, Molina didn't take no Gatti like beat down.

Molina started taking a lot of shots by round 5. It was a B grade as far as beatings go. I've seen beatings from round 1 to round 12

I hope Molina doesn't face as heavy a puncher as Lucas again. He's too tough for his own good. Obviously it would be great for him to get a few paydays, but the pummelling he took in that fight is something he shouldn't risk experiencing again. You'll carry a beating like that around with you for the rest of your life.

It was decent, Lucas looked like he was off a step for the first half. By the second half his defense awareness and footwork was where it needed to be. You can see he learns mid-fight

Lucas looked like he needed to get hit like that to wake his ass up. After he got it going, he beat the **** outta Molina. It was brutal!! Lucas is crazy!! And Molina is tuff as hell.

The bombs were landing (and they were bombs!). Molina took them like a champ although the demolition was inevitable. Whenever a man gets beaten like that for so long, it does have consequences. Molina would have been much better off getting quickly KO in the first round. That wouldnt have gotten him many new fans, but it clearly would have been better for his health.

It's not a beating when you yourself get knocked down twice.

I was actually really impressed with Lucas' jab. It was hard as hell, accurate and fast. Once he started throwing it he started to take control in the 4th. I was impressed as well. If you ask me, the jab won him the fight because I think it was pretty obvious from the beginning that Molina was the harder puncher (I was actually predicting this because I saw the dude's huge fists compared to Mathysse's in the pre-fight conference). He rattled Mathysse in the first round with a glancing blow that mostly hit his gloves. I was more impressed by the fact that Lucas showed tremendous character by still going for the knockout in spite of Molina's superior power. Many would have been demoralized by how well Molina was able to take his punches.

I was actually really impressed with Lucas' jab. It was hard as hell, accurate and fast. Once he started throwing it he started to take control in the 4th.

Demarco did it in 1 round I didn't mean rate Matthysse's performance, I meant how much punishment do you think Molina took. Surely he took more than in the Demarco fight.

I thought it was a sloppy performance from Matthysse. I also thought the beating Molina made for uncomfortable viewing by the end. He took too much.

It was a good beating. It was his defence and placement that failed in the beginning. Being to open for counters.

C he did get the job done in the end and was putting it on Molina toward the end of the fight. However he got dropped twice and in general was more difficult than it should have been over a guy like Molina (although 140 did appear to suit Molina well). He got the job done and that is the most important thing, and the fight was pretty good even though Molina is an unknown.