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If by anything short of a miracle that Floyd would fight this man it would presumably be at 147. Who do you guys got?
Have to see Lucas at 147 first. People thought Hatton was a beast, then he looked like ass at 147.
Pretty sure I read an article a few days ago where Matthysse says he's staying put at 140. His height, build and knock-out percentage reminds me of Kostya Tszyu who never moved north where he was likely vulnerable to bigger, stronger fighters. I see Matthysse as a career JWW. So many big money fights at his best weight why move north? I pick him over Garcia and Khan.
If this fight happens, I've got Floyd by UD (styles make fights), but Lucas would have more of a 'puncher's chance' than any prior Mayweather opponent. Hopefully, if and when this fight happens Lucas can test the waters at 147 first before fighting Floyd.
Agreed.
Well, allow me to be a fan and say I would support the bout coming together and would HOPE Matthysse wins in such a fight, BUT....
I don't believe he's as big a puncher as people are assuming (although a VERY good puncher). Lamont's chin isn't great, it's good, but he's been hurt before and early in fights, was knocked down by Bradley (among others), who is a very good fighter, but he's no power puncher. And let's not eliminate Lamont maybe not having something extra in his system. Just sayin. Lucas doesn't rehydrate a lot so don't think he'd be some big welterweight, he wouldn't be. He's a normal sized junior welterweight. Floyd Mayweather is a normal sized welterweight. Matthysse moves up and he becomes a small welterweight, the same way when Floyd or Cotto move up they're small junior middleweights. It's basic logic. But don't get me wrong Matthysse can and would beat A LOT of these welterweights today, just most likely not the very best of the division (and yes I do hope I'm wrong about all of this).
What else, well versus Floyd he may be made to wear their choice of gloves and I think along with the weight jump, facing a bigger man, this too would reduce his punching power. Although this isn't something utterly unfair, but against an elite boxer that your most significant chance is a punchers chance it SHOULD be noted when thinking about the fight.
Matthysse was recently asked in an interview whether he's a different fighter after the Judah, Alexander fights, he responded by saying he goes for the KO now more than before. That tells me he himself doesn't believe he's gotten better like many posters have chose to say, but rather he's just committing to his shots more. Although I don't not think he could've gotten a little better, I don't believe a proportionate difference is possible nearing or in your 30s. And I do think of those fights when I think of him versus Floyd. Floyd's a better boxer than Judah and Alexander and if Judah was able to go 12 with Lucas I don't doubt Mayweather would as well. I know my line of thinking is a bit triangular, but c'mon it's Zab Judah, what do you think Floyd Mayweather's gonna do? Don't think for a second Floyd doesn't think this way himself.
I hate to be so pessimistic about a fight that I would SUPPORT, but I think we have to be realistic with ourselves, especially as fans of Lucas. It's a good, very intriguing fight. I don't think Matthysse would win. But if I'm wrong, I'll be eating my crow like it's f*cking steak.
Ideally...not that it has to happen this way because I wouldn't complain if this fight got made straight up, but ideally I think we'd all want to see Matthysse at 147 to get a better idea of how they would match-up. Matthysse-Guerrero, or even a rematch with Alexander are very intriguing fights imo.
If you understood what he meant then what was the purpose of that nonsense that you posted? I agree that Mayweather's reach advantage won't be what would win him the fight(him being a superior fighter with suprerior skills is what would win him the fight), but it's certainly not going to help Matthysse.
He took what I said for face value. Again, Peterson did not use his reach advantage to keep Lucas away from him, and could not fight on the inside. Floyd can do both...
We all know reach don't mean jack if you don't know how to use it...Lovci, I expected you to know that by default and not even have to post something in response like you did. Ah well, guess we differ in opinions on that regard.
Sorry to break your bubble son, but you got to be on pot to think that a guy with a legitimate Ko against a top jr. welter will do the same to the 147's and 154's, Think before you talk, thats total bias ****.
Put Matthysse vs Kirkland and I bet you Kirkland KO's Lucas, not the otherway.
this. I don't care how many guys Matthysse KOs at 140, if he goes up against Mayweather, Pacquiao, Marquez, Canelo, Bradley, etc. he's an underdog in my book. He's not proven above his current weight, and he's on the short side so he'd be at a size disadvantage against almost all WWs.
Matthysse KOs everyone from 140 to 154. The same way GGG KOs everyone from 154 to 175.
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Sorry to break your bubble son, but you got to be on pot to think that a guy with a legitimate Ko against a top jr. welter will do the same to the 147's and 154's, Think before you talk, thats total bias ****.
Put Matthysse vs Kirkland and I bet you Kirkland KO's Lucas, not the otherway.
if Mathysse is tailor made for Cherrypicker, then hopefully Cherrypicker doesn't duck him... easy money right?
But of course, you can be sure one of those 5 last fights for Floyd will be Matthysse, unless he loses to Garcia.
Lucas is such a big puncher, there's no doubt Floyd will duck this dude. We would have to pick one of these:
Lucas live to far to fight.
They're not fighting to see who the best is.
My health come first.
When was Lucas when I was dominating at 21.
I lost my urge.
You so stupid son, be sure if there's a guy that Floyd would lovely pick for his next fight would be Matthysse, Did you see Baldomir vs Floyd? guess what, it's gonna be a clone of that.
No one at 140-147 can beat Mayweather, no even the Matthysse that yesterday destroyed Peterson, The only guys who can beat Floyd are bigger and skilled guys: Trout, Lara, Canelo and Martinez.
and then for Floyd never to fight them
you still haven't foregiven Floyd for sending your hero (Hatton) face first into the turnbuckle with his marbles rolling around in his head. Most of your posts are logical and well thought out except for threads about Floyd. Get help brother get help
Floyd will never in a million years fight Lucas Matthysse
You really dumb if you think that a solid win against Peterson puts hims at the same level of Floyd, It'd be a mismatch in favor of Floyd.
Baldmor vs Floyd 2.0
If this fight happens, I've got Floyd by UD (styles make fights), but Lucas would have more of a 'puncher's chance' than any prior Mayweather opponent. Hopefully, if and when this fight happens Lucas can test the waters at 147 first before fighting Floyd.
Just want to save Ban Stick, Reed, and the rest of the mods some time instead of deleting the countless spam threads about this fight after tonight.
If by anything short of a miracle that Floyd would fight this man it would presumably be at 147. Who do you guys got?
You are embarrassing yourself.
Everyone is so high after his win, and rightfully so, but be serious.
I have no idea if he's racist or not and never referred to him as such. But his obsession with Floyd is a bit much, even for an NSB poster.
I'm sorry you dont appreciate me, D.:grumble:
You were either banned, or dick rode Floyd so much you decided you needed a little break before you could come back and do it some more. Racist sack of ****.
Whats that..How did you get on finding a single racist quote from me? Its been a while now, schnuffty!:lol1:
Yea you that right but I was trying to figure out if he was exaggerating just to make a point or if serious. Or maybe making fun of Canelo fighting Lopez/smaller guys? A lot of ways to interpret it IMO.
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lol didnt even think of that. either way, lucas is the man
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Lol nah. I like both guys so I had to make it even.
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whats crazy is lucas he said he wanted to fight canelo if given the opportunity. did i hear that, right? i'd believe it, dude is a true warrior. quiet, reserved, a loner, a certified badas s!
Yea you that right but I was trying to figure out if he was exaggerating just to make a point or if serious. Or maybe making fun of Canelo fighting Lopez/smaller guys? A lot of ways to interpret it IMO.
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No, have you?
You were either banned, or dick rode Floyd so much you decided you needed a little break before you could come back and do it some more. Racist sack of ****.