Too harsh on Pacman?

Mayweather, Pacquiao and Marquez fan here. Do you think many people are being too hard on Pacquiao? I hear many questioning his accomplishments, calling him b class fighter, overrated, making fun of him, etc. He just fought a great fighter who gives him style fits a fourth time. Its like giving a fighter every chance to finally beat you until they do. Some are even talking as if Pac's round robin with Barrera, Morales a and Marquez or his rise through the welterweights meant nothing. Pacman didnt need this fight. Money was probably the driving factor for Arum (Manny does say Arum controls who he fights and boxers are just gorillas to Arum) Manny seems like a genuine honest guy who likes to compete and have fun. He has been obedient to his promoter and has mad good money. No one is invincible. If you've allowed yourself to believe that, then that's your issue. I don't get it either.. This was the best gameplan he had, and was executing it perfectly, he just got caught it happens. I'd like to see a rematch actually, because Pacquiao was dominating every minute except when he was knocked down..

All the floyd and pac fanatics have pretty much ruined this forum for the most part. This place will be better when they both retire, and we don't have people posting nonsense crap. This forum will look the same when this happens to Floyd (assuming he continues to fight). The neutrals or opposing fans, will have a field day with it. Just the way it is.

Mayweather, Pacquiao and Marquez fan here. Do you think many people are being too hard on Pacquiao? I hear many questioning his accomplishments, calling him b class fighter, overrated, making fun of him, etc. He just fought a great fighter who gives him style fits a fourth time. Its like giving a fighter every chance to finally beat you until they do. Some are even talking as if Pac's round robin with Barrera, Morales a and Marquez or his rise through the welterweights meant nothing. Pacman didnt need this fight. Money was probably the driving factor for Arum (Manny does say Arum controls who he fights and boxers are just gorillas to Arum) Manny seems like a genuine honest guy who likes to compete and have fun. He has been obedient to his promoter and has mad good money. No one is invincible. If you've allowed yourself to believe that, then that's your issue. he got caught.... nothing more nothing less, hes a great fighter but not a great technical boxer and his agression worked against him.. hes accomplished alot,,, he will always have questions for turning down testing in 09 but oh well hes a beast cant take nothing away from him he got ktfO THO....

Because in this section 9 out of 10 people are idiots who aren't real fans of the sport. What happened last night was something a large part of the idiots here were waiting for since the mid 2000s. They don't care about boxing, to them it's about internet-flaming. Now if something like this finally happens to Mayweather it will all come full circle and after both of these boxing greats are gone, I think so will most of the idiots of this section.

Pacquiao isnt overrated, maybe by the P4P standard. However I think he loses to smarter boxers, just like Khan.

To be fair, Pacquiao was dominating the fight. Marquez measured him and hit him with a perfect shot but Pacquiao shouldn't have been that sloppy, i think he got the feeling that he was dominating it and was trying to end it but instead he ended up getting KO'ed because he was too aggressive. I'd still favour him to beat most of the fighters out there bar Mayweather and obviously a rematch with Marquez so yeah i think people are being harsh on him. But that's the kind of hate that just comes with the territory of being the most popular fighter on the planet.

People are not going hard on Pacman, this is what fight-fans do, they cheer for there favorite and celebrate when their favorite wins. Pacfans just seen Pac as someone that should cause everyone to suppress there opinions. Pacquiao lost, point blank period.

When elite athletes fall hard, they get totally slated, and thats more lucid in combat sports. That KO came 1 second before the end of the round. Its all intangibles. Yesterday was a gamechanger. I don't think less of Pac, hes been great viewing, but his aura is blitzed. Posted from Boxingscene.com App for Android

When elite athletes fall hard, they get totally slated, and thats more lucid in combat sports. That KO came 1 second before the end of the round. Its all intangibles. Yesterday was a gamechanger. I don't think less of Pac, hes been great viewing, but his aura is blitzed. Posted from Boxingscene.com App for Android

manny looked good i hope he doesnt hang it up and fights marquez a 5th time i think it will do even more money then this one. as for the haters screw them i dont care what they think just let them je.rk off under there desks and my respect to marquez for the win no excuses but the pacman will be back

People overreact to this stuff, including the Sunday hate. Let the Pac haters and Marquez fans have their day. Let the Pac fans mourn. That shot was spectacular. That fight was awesome. The conversations after, the collective barber shop, is all part of being a fan. Aces.

People severely overrate him in some aspects (fanatics) and underrate others (haters). Honestly anyone calling him a bum or the greatest to ever lace them up you can place in one of those two categories. He fought a great fight, I had him ahead prior to him being KO'd. His big flaw imo is he lacks the ring IQ to adapt extremely well, which is why boxers give him so much trouble. He has a plan coming in and sticks with it, which isn't always the best case. That being said... on point with your thread, the harshness is there to balance out the non stop almost troll like invincible aura of him.

Still an ATG for sure and one of the best fighters of his era.

People were waiting on pacquiaos downfall Just like they wait for mayweathers downfall. I wanted marquez to win but i had no idea that he'd win in that fashion i was actually shocked to see pacquiao in that state

i don't think people are hard on manny. they are going hard on his fans though and deservedly so. Pretty much this ^^^^^ I might come across as a pac hater but I genuinely felt bad for the guy. Its just a big kick in the teeth to the t.a.r.d.s at the moment and everyone is going to milk it. Pacfans turned a lot of people off of pac. I wish pac a speedy recovery

i don't think people are hard on manny. they are going hard on his fans though and deservedly so.

Mayweather, Pacquiao and Marquez fan here. Do you think many people are being too hard on Pacquiao? I hear many questioning his accomplishments, calling him b class fighter, overrated, making fun of him, etc. He just fought a great fighter who gives him style fits a fourth time. Its like giving a fighter every chance to finally beat you until they do. Some are even talking as if Pac's round robin with Barrera, Morales a and Marquez or his rise through the welterweights meant nothing. Pacman didnt need this fight. Money was probably the driving factor for Arum (Manny does say Arum controls who he fights and boxers are just gorillas to Arum) Manny seems like a genuine honest guy who likes to compete and have fun. He has been obedient to his promoter and has mad good money. No one is invincible. If you've allowed yourself to believe that, then that's your issue. I came on this morning and saw threads about manny being a bum and how this fight hurts floyds legacy. This is what permeates nsb now on a daily basis and its pathetic. JMM just had a great ko win and manny a huge defeat. It doesn't make manny's career any less. That's the kind of retarded logic this board could use much much less of.

Yeah, the haters are out. Let them look like morons and have their little circle jerk threads where they pretend Pac is a bum and this should count as something for Floyd. Based on the discussion after the fight, I get the impression most of these guys don't know much about the sport beyond the Pacweather fan rivalry.

haters will hate....Pac was pretty much controlling the fight, he was starting to put some punishment on marquez and got caught clean. If they had a rematch, I would favour pac to win. It happens, sometimes you get caught with the perfect punch, ask duran

Yeah, the haters are out. Let them look like morons and have their little circle jerk threads where they pretend Pac is a bum and this should count as something for Floyd.