On second thought: Stepping on PAC's foot won Juan some rounds !!

http://static.rcgroups.net/forums/attachments/7/1/3/3/a3185449-26-Facepalm%20jesus-facepalm-facepalm.jpg?d=1271365063 or better yet...when illiterates try to be funny

how many times does this have to be posted Your video is nothing but another pathetic attempt to twist the facts. It showed once or, at the most, twice when Pac stepped on Marquez's foot. Both happened on rd.1 and on both times, Pac immediately moved his foot away. On rd.2, neither was stepping on the others' foot at 1:38. Watch it in slomo and you will see that Pac could not have stepped on Marquez's foot. He planted his foot first before Marquez did. Aside from those from rd. 1, you have nothing else to show. Now compare your evidence to these videos: http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showpost.php?p=11451557&postcount=14 Plus this: http://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3D9z5jkzyRT7s%26feature%3Dshare&h=GAQFSbIK8 In these 8 rds. shown, Marquez was caught on video 18 times, Pac just two. Marquez doing it unintentionally? No way.

how many times does this have to be posted

Pactards are coming up with excuses that Team Pacquiao hasn't even come up with. Incredible.

intentional foot stomping or not, pacquiao outclassed jmm big time 116-112. outclassed jmm big time ??!!! God help us...

intentional foot stomping or not, pacquiao outclassed jmm big time 116-112.

Very poor comparison. On rd.1, it was clearly accidental. Pac immediately took off his foot. In the rd. 2 two clip, their feet were touching each other, neither was stepping on the other. On the other hand, on rd. 1 alone, Jmm was stepping on Pac's foot at 1:11. :32, :14 and :11. http://youtu.be/k0F8GdeXREs On rd. 2 JMM stepped on Pac's foot at 1:06, :26, and one more time just before the round ended. http://youtu.be/7ilvbv8Xjn4 On rd. 3, the video caught Jmm twice, at 2:29 and :09. 0 for Pac. http://youtu.be/FFXHNvam6H8 On rd. 5, the video showed JMM 3 times, Pac 0. At 1:26, :17 and :14. http://youtu.be/nweXCmSJ6js On rd. 6, it showed JMM doing it at 1:17. http://youtu.be/Wmiom_nLTNI In just 5 rounds, Marquez was caught on video stepping on Pac's foot 13 times. A great portion of the videos did not include the action taking place below the hips. How many more of these infractions not caught on video is anybody's guess. Take note also that Marquez was lifting his foot a few inches above the surface and was stepping forward in a straight line towards Pac's foot, not outside of it. In Pac's case, the videos caught him stepping clearly on Marquez's foot once, only on rd.1, and he took it off in a split second. What these videos clearly showed was Pac trying to put his right foot outside of Marquez's left foot, and he hardly stepped on Marquez. This is exactly right. Marquez was lifting his whole foot, planting the heeel, and coming down hard with the main part of his foot swuare onto MannyP.'s foot, and staying there as long as he coud, whilst firing off combinations. MannyP on the other hand, unable to move was trying to get away and was more open to being hit. It was blatant, and looked well practiced. In the 12th, Marquez not only plonked his whole foot on Pacquiao's, but walked a couple of steps forward on Pacquiao's foot, with MannyP going backwards trying to escape it. REALLY blatant. The Roach is a fool, I regret to say, for not jumping on this when the slo mo has made it so obvious. He probably didn't see it then, and now, because it's a reflection on his observation powers, won't admit that it was a problem, because that would be admitting his negligence.

Read and watch the videos in the post above yours. It might change your mind. It's unbelievable that some of Pacquiao's fans are still going on about this foot thing. Pac fans, go to the 1:00 minute mark of the following video and listen to what Pacquiao's friend Amir is saying. Now go to this video of HBO's "Face Off" between Pac and JMM. Go to the 6:26 mark and listen to what Pacquiao's trainer Freddie Roach has to say: They're stepping on each other's feet because both fighters are trying to dominate the combat zone. For those asking why this didn't happen more often in their first two fights, it should be obvious from the Face Off video that both fighters are clearly aware of the importance of this position and are fighting for it. Pacquiao is a bit more technical now, remember? Another thing that should be noted; it was a clean fight with both fighters touching gloves after punches strayed and accidental head clashes. On some of these occasions, Pacquiao would point things out to the ref by motioning, such as pointing to his waist when he thought punches might be low or to his head after the accidental clash of heads. He never pointed toward his feet. Now read the following tweets by Freddie Roach: FreddieRoach Freddie Roach sure part of game plan but its ok RT @iam_ninoy: saw vid clip JMM stepped on Pacquiao foot 6 times Is it legal, cheating or unsportsmanlike? FreddieRoach Freddie Roach No very common when southpaws face right handers RT @LuckyLindy21: Marquez was consistently stepping on Mannys foot could that cause cramps? Pacfans, stop with this "foot stepping" BS already. You're embarrassing yourselves.

Just wondering if those stepping on foot happened on the first 2 meetings. The first 2 fights will answer the question. Intentional or Not?It's unbelievable that some of Pacquiao's fans are still going on about this foot thing. Pac fans, go to the 1:00 minute mark of the following video and listen to what Pacquiao's friend Amir is saying. Now go to this video of HBO's "Face Off" between Pac and JMM. Go to the 6:26 mark and listen to what Pacquiao's trainer Freddie Roach has to say: They're stepping on each other's feet because both fighters are trying to dominate the combat zone. For those asking why this didn't happen more often in their first two fights, it should be obvious from the Face Off video that both fighters are clearly aware of the importance of this position and are fighting for it. Pacquiao is a bit more technical now, remember? Another thing that should be noted; it was a clean fight with both fighters touching gloves after punches strayed and accidental head clashes. On some of these occasions, Pacquiao would point things out to the ref by motioning, such as pointing to his waist when he thought punches might be low or to his head after the accidental clash of heads. He never pointed toward his feet. Now read the following tweets by Freddie Roach: FreddieRoach Freddie Roach sure part of game plan but its ok RT @iam_ninoy: saw vid clip JMM stepped on Pacquiao foot 6 times Is it legal, cheating or unsportsmanlike? FreddieRoach Freddie Roach No very common when southpaws face right handers RT @LuckyLindy21: Marquez was consistently stepping on Mannys foot could that cause cramps? Pacfans, stop with this "foot stepping" BS already. You're embarrassing yourselves.

i agree !!! and i think the foot stomp by marquez was intentional !!!!!!!!!!It's unbelievable that some of Pacquiao's fans are still going on about this foot thing. Pac fans, go to the 1:00 minute mark of the following video and listen to what Pacquiao's friend Amir is saying. Now go to this video of HBO's "Face Off" between Pac and JMM. Go to the 6:26 mark and listen to what Pacquiao's trainer Freddie Roach has to say: They're stepping on each other's feet because both fighters are trying to dominate the combat zone. For those asking why this didn't happen more often in their first two fights, it should be obvious from the Face Off video that both fighters are clearly aware of the importance of this position and are fighting for it. Pacquiao is a bit more technical now, remember? Another thing that should be noted; it was a clean fight with both fighters touching gloves after punches strayed and accidental head clashes. On some of these occasions, Pacquiao would point things out to the ref by motioning, such as pointing to his waist when he thought punches might be low or to his head after the accidental clash of heads. He never pointed toward his feet. Now read the following tweets by Freddie Roach: FreddieRoach Freddie Roach sure part of game plan but its ok RT @iam_ninoy: saw vid clip JMM stepped on Pacquiao foot 6 times Is it legal, cheating or unsportsmanlike? FreddieRoach Freddie Roach No very common when southpaws face right handers RT @LuckyLindy21: Marquez was consistently stepping on Mannys foot could that cause cramps? Pacfans, stop with this "foot stepping" BS already. You're embarrassing yourselves.

F.uck pacquaio and F.uck his fans IM tired of all his fans, none of them have anything else to do but to talk about him and not even logical just talking out their ass. They dont know boxing, should lock them all into the pinoy section. why not we dont want to hear their nonsense let them talk to them selves. The Pacquaio ship is sinking quickly dude. We are finally seeing the decline in pactardation. Look how the polls are looking now. Look how the media is now turning on this fraud. Even In this Pac friendly forum your now seeing Polls exposing this fraud. Just seat back and enjoy the collapsation of the Pactardos and Arum. :popcorn:

F.uck pacquaio and F.uck his fans IM tired of all his fans, none of them have anything else to do but to talk about him and not even logical just talking out their ass. They dont know boxing, should lock them all into the pinoy section. why not we dont want to hear their nonsense let them talk to them selves. Why? Are you scared of the truth? Watch these videos again and see if you can deny that they didn't happen. http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showpost.php?p=11451557&postcount=14

F.uck pacquaio and F.uck his fans IM tired of all his fans, none of them have anything else to do but to talk about him and not even logical just talking out their ass. They dont know boxing, should lock them all into the pinoy section. why not we dont want to hear their nonsense let them talk to them selves.

Damn pac fans are really butt hurt about this foot stepping thing. Do I really have to post the vid of Pac doing the same thing to Marquez in the fight also? Calm down even Roach said that it didn't matter or effect the fight. What next Pac should get 10 min water breaks between rounds to prevent cramps? Naw man....they just need to time their fights better around Manny's menstrual cycles.......

these ideas of marquez intentionally stepping on pacs foot are childish c'mon guys really. I know you guys like pac but c'mon seriously Read and watch the videos in the post above yours. It might change your mind.

these ideas of marquez intentionally stepping on pacs foot are childish c'mon guys really. I know you guys like pac but c'mon seriously

Damn pac fans are really butt hurt about this foot stepping thing. Do I really have to post the vid of Pac doing the same thing to Marquez in the fight also? Calm down even Roach said that it didn't matter or effect the fight. What next Pac should get 10 min water breaks between rounds to prevent cramps? Very poor comparison. On rd.1, it was clearly accidental. Pac immediately took off his foot. In the rd. 2 two clip, their feet were touching each other, neither was stepping on the other. On the other hand, on rd. 1 alone, Jmm was stepping on Pac's foot at 1:11. :32, :14 and :11. http://youtu.be/k0F8GdeXREs On rd. 2 JMM stepped on Pac's foot at 1:06, :26, and one more time just before the round ended. http://youtu.be/7ilvbv8Xjn4 On rd. 3, the video caught Jmm twice, at 2:29 and :09. 0 for Pac. http://youtu.be/FFXHNvam6H8 On rd. 5, the video showed JMM 3 times, Pac 0. At 1:26, :17 and :14. http://youtu.be/nweXCmSJ6js On rd. 6, it showed JMM doing it at 1:17. http://youtu.be/Wmiom_nLTNI In just 5 rounds, Marquez was caught on video stepping on Pac's foot 13 times. A great portion of the videos did not include the action taking place below the hips. How many more of these infractions not caught on video is anybody's guess. Take note also that Marquez was lifting his foot a few inches above the surface and was stepping forward in a straight line towards Pac's foot, not outside of it. In Pac's case, the videos caught him stepping clearly on Marquez's foot once, only on rd.1, and he took it off in a split second. What these videos clearly showed was Pac trying to put his right foot outside of Marquez's left foot, and he hardly stepped on Marquez.

See? This is why Floyd prefers to have fantasy fights instead of real fights. All this controversy is a real hassle, you know? Who has the time? It's a lot easier to beat someone in your head than in the ring.

Natural for a Orthodox and Southpaw to clash heads/step on feet. Pac did it too. The ref was standing right there in the ring and saw it as incidental contact. Pac's corner made zero complaints during the fight about it. Pac didn't under perform he got outclassed by a great boxer. You are just trying to find ways to take credit from a great Marquez performance. Every time JMM faces Pac the same thing will happen over and over again.Juan's performance was what I expected, he seemed to have pivoted more and stepped on Dumbquiao's foot alot more for this fight though, lol. I expected Dumbquiao to apply more pressure, but, he tried the whole idea of counter the counter-puncher a lil too much. It's not necessarily a bad strategy, but, I expected him to counter the counter-puncher while moving forward. Instead, what Dumbquiao/Roach had in mind was let Juanita lead with his counter and then step back a lil and counter Juantita's lead counter. But, Dumbquiao's sense of distance was so bad, that even when they were able to let Juanita's lead out, he stepped back too far to capitalize on it. I was envisioning DUmbquiao to slip and bob punches and then countering the Juanita's counter, not, stepping back and countering himself, get it ? At the end of the day, PAC committed way too many tactical errors, and I don't think it was forced by Juanita

Just wondering if those stepping on foot happened on the first 2 meetings. The first 2 fights will answer the question. Intentional or Not?