Tonight's Kessler (+ fair ref) beats Ward.

I agree. It's interesting to hear that Ward is working with Victor Conte. Maybe that's why he won't fight outside of Oakland, well besides Detroit, where he won't get tested anyway. I think there's more to Ward, much like Dirrell. These guys are hiding something. yeah, i don't like that conte is in ward's corner.

If there was a rematch in a neutral country without Ward's crooked referee, he would likely defeat Ward. What would be so different, fight-wise? Ward was making Kessler look incredibly poor regardless of the head clashes and whatnot. He's simply a better boxer.

Yeah he does guys. Laugh, mock me all you like but Kessler had dramatically improved footwork this fight as well as output and angles. Versus Ward he seemed hesitant and the fact Ward got away with hall manner of holding certainly didn't help his confidence - kessler is a gentleman's fighter. Don't misunderstand me, Ward beat Kessler. It was in the US and he did what he needed to do; fdair play to Ward but if tonight's Kessler fought Ward on a no spoiling playing field he'd beat him handidly I believe. That was the exact same Kessler I saw when I studied his past fights before placing a bet on him. Watch his fight with Mundine. Kessler was no different from the first Ward fight, the biggest difference is that Froch let him build confidence in the 7th and it sustained through the rest of the fight. Ward took away Kessler's confidence and kept it. Styles make mothafukcing fights and will continue too. This shit is chess not checkers.

Yeah he does guys. Laugh, mock me all you like but Kessler had dramatically improved footwork this fight as well as output and angles. Versus Ward he seemed hesitant and the fact Ward got away with hall manner of holding certainly didn't help his confidence - kessler is a gentleman's fighter. Don't misunderstand me, Ward beat Kessler. It was in the US and he did what he needed to do; fdair play to Ward but if tonight's Kessler fought Ward on a no spoiling playing field he'd beat him handidly I believe. i dunno, kessler might still lose.

Kessler isn't the fighter he used to be, and Ward only figures to improve. I'd pick Ward, even in Denmark. Just a terrible style matchup for the Dane.

Maybe I am getting carried away but this Kessler was improved on the last - anyone disagree? Anyway I think they'll rematch down the line. Hopefully ina neutral location too so that'll settle this debate :boxing: yea he improve ill give you that but ward is too much of an athlete for kessler

Ward trounces Kessler every single time, if they were to fight again.

dude it was a good fight but very sloppy just dont get carried away Maybe I am getting carried away but this Kessler was improved on the last - anyone disagree? Anyway I think they'll rematch down the line. Hopefully ina neutral location too so that'll settle this debate :boxing:

don't want to sound like a hater, and I do admire Kessler's warrior mentality but Ward is just a class above him and he will school him again styles make fights.

Seriously, Kessler didn't have footwork vs Ward, watch it again guys. You'll notice kessler simply rocked his upper body looking for spots but not making them. Ok at a push you could argue I'm hyped for Kessler - and I am - after this fight but I still maintain a fairer playing field would result in a close match and I'd favour Kessler in that situation. dude it was a good fight but very sloppy just dont get carried away

sorry but na

No, he doesn't. That is a very convincing argument.

I just hope whatever version of Kessler shows up beats the hell out of Froch. I dont like or dislike Kessler, but I cannot stand Froch, and he is certainly no where close to being on Wards level. I still think Dirrell was doing some acting at the end of his fight with AA, but he was beating AA's ass up until that point, if Dirrell had fought Froch the same way he fought AA their never would have been a question, Dirrell would have taken Froch's belt. Froch's title reign will end in this tournament, whether it be tonight or not.

Seriously, Kessler didn't have footwork vs Ward, watch it again guys. You'll notice kessler simply rocked his upper body looking for spots but not making them. Ok at a push you could argue I'm hyped for Kessler - and I am - after this fight but I still maintain a fairer playing field would result in a close match and I'd favour Kessler in that situation.

Froch isn't a southpaw, and he has a style that allowed Kessler to fight more comfortably. Andre Ward's style makes it uncomfortable for anybody.

Threads like this always appear after a big fight lol give it a few days and it will die down a bit. Most knowledgeable boxing fans know that Ward is all wrong for Kessler.

I'll start, are you on crack? Styles make fights dude. Kessler wasn't even competitive vs Ward. The thing with Froch is, he's there to be hit! He could have lost his 0 vs Pascal, Taylor and most definitely Dirrell. He was lucky in two of those (the Pascal fight he really deserved to win) KOing Taylor when he was way behind and robbing Dirrell. Kessler is a good fighter, and that's all it takes to beat Froch. Ward is an Olympic champion who has never in trouble vs Kessler.

No he wouldn't.

Ward headbutted Kessler out of the fight so he couldn't see, he didn't beat him legitimately over 12 rounds and didn't KO him inside 12 rounds.

agreed 100 percent, kessler should have won by dq anyway with the 6 or so head buts ward landed. no doubt americans will disagree due to their bias tho