what obvious differences set them apart as fighters? forget about all the outside of the ring crap. theyre quite similar i think , im such a huge fan of Pernell and was just watchin the De La Hoya fight and i see floyd in sweet pea . what has Whitaker got that Floyd hasnt and vice versa?? ( be honest )
Couldnt have said it better myself. I think Floyd gets the nod as the stronger fighter as well.
I always get swagger jacked when I drop knowledge..but you heard it here first...
People are gonna be shocked at how strong Floyd actually is when him and shane get on the inside. I hate Floyd, but I can tell you that Shane isnt that much stronger than Floyd as people think. That is the X factor in the fight...that and Floyd's Jab
Both are similar in the fact that they are defensive first fighters IMO (use defense to set up offense), and both have the types of defenses that mentally fukk opponents who try to land on them.
The differences though are that Pernell use upperbody movement, slipping, etc to avoid punches. Floyd on the other hand uses his arms, shoulders to roll and block punches. Floyd uses footwork to establish the range he wants to fight at and pernall on the other hand uses it more to turn his opponents and showboat at times. P was more offensive and let his hands go more. Both are very good ring generals and very smart. Thats just off the dome and there are more differences but that is all I can think of right now..
I think Floyd is a much more cautious fighter. He's all about, "hit and don't get hit" and he sticks to that. Whitaker had that stance as well but he would throw caution to the wind and wasn't afraid to mix it up. He would often push the action, jabbing and moving his way in, while letting his hands go to the body and head. Floyd often defends first, waits for the upper hand and then capitalizes.
I think their defensive reflexes were close, with an edge to Whitaker. The way he fought demanded unbelievably quick reflexes. I think Whitaker had a stronger lower body. Mayweather may have been stronger in the upper body with an edge in hand speed.
what obvious differences set them apart as fighters? forget about all the outside of the ring crap. theyre quite similar i think , im such a huge fan of Pernell and was just watchin the De La Hoya fight and i see floyd in sweet pea . what has Whitaker got that Floyd hasnt and vice versa?? ( be honest )
southpaw is the first difference
and like someone else said balls
just compare whitaker performance against Julio Cesar Vasquez a better version of baldo in every department with floyd fight with baldo
whitaker defense is top notch. he could move and make you miss or he stand right in front of you and make you miss
and he didnt rely on the elbow forearm push off that floyd does when someone gets on the inside with him
and he didnt resort to holding like andre ward and dirrell when someone closed distance on him either.
well, Whitaker is a southpaw. Thats a plus for him.
I think Pea was physically stronger than Mayweather, he had a shorter reach and wasn't as quick though.
whitaker is quicker than floyd (especially footwork) but floyd is stronger.
what obvious differences set them apart as fighters? forget about all the outside of the ring crap. theyre quite similar i think , im such a huge fan of Pernell and was just watchin the De La Hoya fight and i see floyd in sweet pea . what has Whitaker got that Floyd hasnt and vice versa?? ( be honest )
Both are similar in the fact that they are defensive first fighters IMO (use defense to set up offense), and both have the types of defenses that mentally fukk opponents who try to land on them.
The differences though are that Pernell use upperbody movement, slipping, etc to avoid punches. Floyd on the other hand uses his arms, shoulders to roll and block punches. Floyd uses footwork to establish the range he wants to fight at and pernall on the other hand uses it more to turn his opponents and showboat at times. P was more offensive and let his hands go more. Both are very good ring generals and very smart. Thats just off the dome and there are more differences but that is all I can think of right now..
what obvious differences set them apart as fighters? forget about all the outside of the ring crap. theyre quite similar i think , im such a huge fan of Pernell and was just watchin the De La Hoya fight and i see floyd in sweet pea . what has Whitaker got that Floyd hasnt and vice versa?? ( be honest )
I think sweet peas transition from defense to offense is better than Floyd's. Also i think sweet pea was a better combo puncher. A[part rom that floyd is pretty damn good.
Pernell was incredible Defensive fighter like May.
But he also could get caught off balance.
I believe he's been down 4 or 5 times.
I think twice to Buddy.
Rarely got hit by a combo though.
Whitaker often fought bigger fighters in close or at mid-range, where Mayweather stays on the outside more. Mayweather is very good with singular shots, e.g. the straight right hand and jab to the body. His hand speed and unusually long reach allow him to fight that way. Whitaker was much more the master of staying at mid range and fighting behind an active jab. He'd double and triple the jab, slip a punch or two and get closer. When in close he'd block punches with his gloves and arms or dodge them completely. He was very active on the inside too, positioning himself to get off with body punches with both hands.
Mayweather is a great head hunter. Whitaker was a great body puncher. I think May might have a bit more power (consistency) but Whitaker could throw some very damaging body shots. Haugen, Rodriguez, Pineda, Diaz and many others found this out first hand.
i also think mayweather does alot less clwoning around in the ring. Whitaker did alot of things that i think rubbed judges the wrong way. Mayweather is all buisness in the ring and other than an occasional smile or sports betting pick hes mostly all buisness.
Absolutely. Mayweather is all business and pretty much always sticks to his game plan. Whitaker could get complacent at times when he felt he was (seemingly) superior to his opponent. That usually led to him getting caught, like with Roger Mayweather and McGirt when he carelessly squared his feet up to Buddy.
One of Mayweather's best traits is his stick-to-itiveness. He is very mentally strong and doesn't fall apart. Whitaker never fell apart mentally in the sense that he go overwhelmed or anything, he just started to clown about and sold himself short a bit.
Whitaker used his jab more to the head. Mayweather jabs more to the body. Whitaker had a higher workrate. Neither is a big puncher, Whitaker did have some power in that left hand when he loaded up on it, but I think Mayweather hits harder. Mayweather pot shots with one punch at a time more often. He throws that lead right hand more often than Whitaker lead with his left. Both guys knew tricks of the trade (i.e. illegal tactics), but used them in different ways. Mayweather with his forearms and elbows. Whitaker had that thing where he'd grab his opponent's arm or drive his shoulder in his opponent and walk him back, meanwhile sneaking in shots (often low) with his left hand.
Both of them liked to use movement, but I've seen Mayweather more often do this on his toes while Whitaker liked to do this flat-footed. I've always seen Mayweather go to the ropes, sometimes intentionally, than Whitaker.
Mayweather apparently has a better work ethic in the gym than Whitaker.
good answer. Whitaker wasnt a stranger to usin his head either. i noticed in the oscar fight in the early rounds Whitaker was unusually aggressive and took alot of forward steps, which floyd rarely does unless hes sure his opponent is about to drop. floyd hit harder i think..
Whitaker used his jab more to the head. Mayweather jabs more to the body. Whitaker had a higher workrate. Neither is a big puncher, Whitaker did have some power in that left hand when he loaded up on it, but I think Mayweather hits harder. Mayweather pot shots with one punch at a time more often. He throws that lead right hand more often than Whitaker lead with his left. Both guys knew tricks of the trade (i.e. illegal tactics), but used them in different ways. Mayweather with his forearms and elbows. Whitaker had that thing where he'd grab his opponent's arm or drive his shoulder in his opponent and walk him back, meanwhile sneaking in shots (often low) with his left hand.
Both of them liked to use movement, but I've seen Mayweather more often do this on his toes while Whitaker liked to do this flat-footed. I've always seen Mayweather go to the ropes, sometimes intentionally, than Whitaker.
Mayweather apparently has a better work ethic in the gym than Whitaker.
i also think mayweather does alot less clwoning around in the ring. Whitaker did alot of things that i think rubbed judges the wrong way. Mayweather is all buisness in the ring and other than an occasional smile or sports betting pick hes mostly all buisness.
But you are right, Whitaker is alot more stationary and his workrate is higher because he also threw alot of punches for the sake of touching you and finding range. I also agree mayweather hits a bit harder.
Whitaker used his jab more to the head. Mayweather jabs more to the body. Whitaker had a higher workrate. Neither is a big puncher, Whitaker did have some power in that left hand when he loaded up on it, but I think Mayweather hits harder. Mayweather pot shots with one punch at a time more often. He throws that lead right hand more often than Whitaker lead with his left. Both guys knew tricks of the trade (i.e. illegal tactics), but used them in different ways. Mayweather with his forearms and elbows. Whitaker had that thing where he'd grab his opponent's arm or drive his shoulder in his opponent and walk him back, meanwhile sneaking in shots (often low) with his left hand.
Both of them liked to use movement, but I've seen Mayweather more often do this on his toes while Whitaker liked to do this flat-footed. I've seen Mayweather go to the ropes, sometimes intentionally, more than Whitaker.
Mayweather apparently has a better work ethic in the gym than Whitaker.
Sweet Pea fought both Prime versions of both Oscar & Tito as well as Chavez,at 147 or a catchweight close to that!!Floyd fought Baldomir,Judah & a fat lightweight Marquez at a catchweight he didn't make!!
Sweet Pea was competitive past his prime against a prime Oscar & Tito!!He also should have got the win vs Chavez,but it is what it is!!Baldomir,Judah & Marquez,shouldn't be compared to those 3 mentioned for Sweet Pea!!
Balls!!!!Pernell didn't duck no one period and he went toe to toe with anyone while making you miss at the same time.So Floyd doesn't have Sweet peas great resume or guts period!!!
what obvious differences set them apart as fighters? forget about all the outside of the ring crap. theyre quite similar i think , im such a huge fan of Pernell and was just watchin the De La Hoya fight and i see floyd in sweet pea . what has Whitaker got that Floyd hasnt and vice versa?? ( be honest )
well, Whitaker is a southpaw. Thats a plus for him.
I think Pea was physically stronger than Mayweather, he had a shorter reach and wasn't as quick though.