vs. just a countdown that JMM/Pac II had. Is it fair to compare both fight's PPV's when one fight had significantly more resources and time to promote than the other?
Where was this excuse when absolutely everyone and their mothers, and their grandmothers were saying that the fight will bomb and the Floyd haters acting like little girls making threads about boycotting the fight like if their money was gonna make a huge difference in the final PPV sales for Marquez-Mayweather. That was all Mayweather. Everyone was saying that if the fight bombs it was Mayweather's fault because Marquez is not a draw and Mayweather was the only name opponent in the fight, everyone was praying for bad PPV numbers. So now that the fight was successful, it was Marquez/Mexican independence day who made it successful.
Where were these fans in the Marquez-Pacquiao PPV, only 400k showed up? weird right? How come they didn't a make PPV for Diaz-Marquez and put it on some special Mexican day, for it can also do a Mill?
man , i'm not even gonna argue stupid mayweather-marquez. it was held on MEXICAN fucking independence day. to not give any credit to the mexican fighter involved is a fucking joke.
pacquiao-marquez 2 was the best selling ppv under 147 at the time , homie.
it was only topped by hatton-pacquiao.
americans don't buy fights under 147. fact.
go dig up floyd's ppv numbers from 130-140.
I already did. But haters need to grow balls and admit that without this man called Money Mayweather, the fight would not have even been on Pay Per View.
So you're saying that if Marquez had fought anyone but Mayweather the fight would not have been pay per view???
Pac/Marquez 1 & 2
Marquez/Barrera
Marquez/Juarez
Marquez/Cassamayor
ALL PAY PER VIEW
Damn itdude, you've just been pwned several times already with your argument but you still stick like a pesky barnacle on mayweather's nuts.
He's not understanding what we're asking him and why. It hasn't dawned on him yet that he's contradicting himself and digging a bigger hole. When he does realize, he'll either stick with the same shit pretending not to know what just happened or leave the thread.
I already did. But haters need to grow balls and admit that without this man called Money Mayweather, the fight would not have even been on Pay Per View.
Damn itdude, you've just been pwned several times already with your argument but you still stick like a pesky barnacle on mayweather's nuts.
What I'm saying makes a lot of sense. Since you're not here to read my lips, just read my post.
MIGUEL COTTO WAS NOT A DRAW UNTIL THE PR VS MEXICO RIVALRY WIT MARGARITO.
He had a decent PR fanbase, that's all. NOW, he is a draw, more casual fans know him. Wow I can't believe you're asking these questions.
you havent answered my question, the main question I'm asking. You're saying Cotto became a bigger draw than JMM so not choose the bigger draw in Cotto over JMM?
What I'm saying makes a lot of sense. Since you're not here to read my lips, just read my post.
MIGUEL COTTO WAS NOT A DRAW UNTIL THE PR VS MEXICO RIVALRY WIT MARGARITO.
And Marquez was not a PPV draw until Pacquiao. What's your point???
Mayweather vs Marquez could have been in my birthday and still sell 1mill.
maybe, but it was not all mayweather like you said. mayweather is a draw. but you have to give this man credit:http://philboxing.com/news/pix/marquez.090913.la.01.330w.jpg
Where was this excuse when absolutely everyone and their mothers, and their grandmothers were saying that the fight will bomb and the Floyd haters acting like little girls making threads about boycotting the fight like if their money was gonna make a huge difference in the final PPV sales for Marquez-Mayweather. That was all Mayweather. Everyone was saying that if the fight bombs it was Mayweather's fault because Marquez is not a draw and Mayweather was the only name opponent in the fight, everyone was praying for bad PPV numbers. So now that the fight was successful, it was Marquez/Mexican independence day who made it successful.
http://www.goldenboypromotions.com/media/2009/sept/9.13.09_marquez2/M.JPG
Where were these fans in the Marquez-Pacquiao PPV, only 400k showed up? weird right? How come they didn't a make PPV for Diaz-Marquez and put it on some special Mexican day, for it can also do a Mill?
why wasnt Mayweather- Marquez held on black history month or martin luther king day?
floyd mayweather on one side, juan manuel marquez on the other, mexican independance weekend, mexicos top fighter in a mega fight...you got your self a successful event.
top mexicans always sell fights, there is a reason why this fight was held on mexican indepenance weekend, there is a reason why de la hoya-mayweather was held on 5 de mayo. jmm was involved in the highest selling ppv fight below welterweight(400k PPV) before hatton-pac. you might say that he has neer been in the big type of fights that mayweather has been in but mayweather never reached 400k before the de la hoya fight. you might say that few casual fans knew of Marquez and refered to him as "that mexican dude that mayweather is fighting", but it was the same case in the mexican community, alot of people refered to mayweather as "that black dude that marquez is fighting". there is a whole nother market out there with the mexican community and thats why promoters always try to target that market. bob arum has a "mexicans for manny" campaign for a reason. ALL the mexicans were talking about this fight. this fight was all over hispanic television, newspaper, and radio. commentators would talk about this fight during soccer games. the at&t sponsor that GBP was able to aquire was for their viva mexico cell phone package plan. tv stations were running a jmm at&t commercial all day...so on so forth. but all of this was a side of the promotion that you did not get exposed to unless you were latino.
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The PR vs Mexico rivalry always helps.
Plus the Clottey-Cotto card did over 1Mill viewers. Cotto is a draw now, but he wasn't before. Simple, what's so hard to understand son? I know you're for real too, that's what scares me. Floyd didnt get any attention until his whooping on the Gatti PPV, and still even with that he was only a 400k type of fighter. DLH-Mayweather was both Floyd's and DLH best PPV numbers, and coincidentally the best in boxing history.
ok, so what you're saying is that, after the Margarito fight where Cotto was treated like a foster child, his PPV stock went up just because it did about 100K more than the Mosley fight? So he was a big enough draw for Manny, but not for Floyd? See what I'm getting at? Why didn't Floyd choose the bigger PPV draw in Cotto than JMM?
What you're saying is not making sense. See where I was getting at?
Miguel Cotto was not a PPV draw at that moment. His best PPV to that date was with Mosley and it only sold 355k.
Wait, how did Cotto become a draw over night?
Is it fair to compare the two when one fight was billed as a potential FOTY and the other was a bigger guy who was expected to dominate a smaller fighter?
1 million for Mayweather vs marquez is huge given the circumstances.
just agree to stay off my dick and leave it at that. You cant even do that can you? Youre a clown. I hate cats like you. You are like one of the only guys on the net I have ever wanted to fight because I cant even hear you talk but I can tell that your whole attitude is bitchy. Bitch, Bitch, Bitch. Even when someone is trying to talk regular to you, you respond with a Bitchy statement. I dont mess with cats like that. Now say your response to me but at the end just stay out of my shit and Ill stay out of yours
deep breaths DLT. its not that serious.
Miguel Cotto is a bigger draw than Juan Manuel Marquez. Floyd Mayweather literally sold that 1.1Mill PPVs BY HIMSELF. Come on 25, I know you're a real bad Mayweather hater, a notorious one, but damn give the man his credit where it's due.
yeah that's why they held it on mexican independence day.
please......
Miguel Cotto is a bigger draw than Juan Manuel Marquez. Floyd Mayweather literally sold that 1.1Mill PPVs BY HIMSELF. Come on 25, I know you're a real bad Mayweather hater, a notorious one, but damn give the man his credit where it's due.
When asked why he wouldnt fight Cotto, Floyd, on camera, said Cotto was not a PPV draw, was unknown. He brought nothing to the table. Was Floyd lying?
the fukk? am I splicing the DNA of certain posters in here or what? haha
just agree to stay off my dick and leave it at that. You cant even do that can you? Youre a clown. I hate cats like you. You are like one of the only guys on the net I have ever wanted to fight because I cant even hear you talk but I can tell that your whole attitude is bitchy. Bitch, Bitch, Bitch. Even when someone is trying to talk regular to you, you respond with a Bitchy statement. I dont mess with cats like that. Now say your response to me but at the end just stay out of my shit and Ill stay out of yours
IDK why you think your word is so bond and you can play GOD. If you dont like me then we end it right here. You dont respond to my shit and try to bring up old post like little girls do and I wont respond to your shit. Settled
the fukk? am I splicing the DNA of certain posters in here or what? haha
fights under welterweight never get attention from the mainstream in america.
just a fact.
pac-jmm 2 was the best selling ppv fight ever 135 and under. (before that it was pac-morales 1/2/3)
pac-hatton was the best selling ppv fight ever at 140 and under. (replacing pac-jmm 2 as the best selling 140 and under fight)
oh thats right, you "keep it real".
IDK why you think your word is so bond and you can play GOD. If you dont like me then we end it right here. You dont respond to my shit and try to bring up old post like little girls do and I wont respond to your shit. Settled
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