Floyd needs Pacquiao not the other way round !!!!!

Why ??????????????????????????????????????????? because he's scared??

floyd needs pac to duck mosley Why ???????????????????????????????????????????

floyd needs pac to duck mosley

got it off the net people know JMM... when he fought pac they didn't know him because barrera and morales were ducking all i'm saying is if both fighters are just looking for money...this is the fight. doesn't matter if pacquiao loses to cotto it still would generate more money than any fight out there. just like delahoya...doesn't matter if pacquiao loses he will still bring in alot of casual boxing fans. pacquiao may not be pretty like delahoya he doesn't sing as well as delahoya his wife isn't hot like delahoyas but he will always have a large following of casual fans because he is busy and offensive. casual fans don't like the technical aspect. floyd will always have a large following too. i think he is a genius in and out of the ring. he's like ali. i think he puts up this act that gets people upset. then these hater hang on his balls just waiting for him to fuk up....genius. probably more hater following him than fans! this is how ali did it. it's how howard stern does it too. If Pacquiao loses to Cotto , your saying Floyd Pac is still relevant ???? And you are right in comparing Ali to Mayweather in the sense that people tuned into him to see him lose (during mid to late 60's and early 70's), but thats where the comparisons stop !!!!!!

where did you get those Hatton numbers from? Also, are you going to act like the JMM fight didnt just happened? He did a mil against a guy that no knows in a fight that everyone dissed and said wouldnt sell 300,000 got it off the net people know JMM... when he fought pac they didn't know him because barrera and morales were ducking all i'm saying is if both fighters are just looking for money...this is the fight. doesn't matter if pacquiao loses to cotto it still would generate more money than any fight out there. just like delahoya...doesn't matter if pacquiao loses he will still bring in alot of casual boxing fans. pacquiao may not be pretty like delahoya he doesn't sing as well as delahoya his wife isn't hot like delahoyas but he will always have a large following of casual fans because he is busy and offensive. casual fans don't like the technical aspect. floyd will always have a large following too. i think he is a genius in and out of the ring. he's like ali. i think he puts up this act that gets people upset. then these hater hang on his balls just waiting for him to fuk up....genius. probably more hater following him than fans! this is how ali did it. it's how howard stern does it too.

**** pacquiao, cotto, mosley, entire WWs! mayweather should fight valero next

There's no other fights out there for both these guys that can generate the kind of $$$$$ if these two were to get it on. If these guys wanna make the most $$$$ in one f**king fight, then there's really no other option. Sure, they can both fight other fighters and make decent $$$$, but it doesn't even compare, guys. There's no who needs who more. Fighting each other is it(doesn't matter who takes the bigger %) ! I think its fair to say that Mosley - Pac could do very well in the PPV numbers department , and Pac could walk away with 60 - 40 with Shane maybe more !!!! , with Floyd he's scrounging around for 50 - 50 at best its a disgrace why should he fight that fraud Mayweather !!!!!!

come on man, dont be a homer. That dont even make sense what you just said. You said that Floyd just did 1.5mil more than Pac but after the Cotto fight the numbers will be 750-1mil apart. How is that? Thats like your saying that Pac-Cotto will do 1.5-1.75. If floyd is up on him by 1.5 now then how can that number get cut in half with Pac-Cotto unless they put up crazy numbers? Thats not happening. You also said Pac beating Cotto will raise his PPV numbers but what about Floyd? His get higher every fight. You think his arent raising? Then one thing everyone forgets to take into account was the pre Oscar stuff. Pre Oscar Floyd wasnt the star he is now but he was still way bigger than Pac and had made 10x more money than Pac had in his career. Its been there whole careers that Floyd has made alot more money so how can Pac get 50/50 or more? Youre being a homer now. Also, you are smoking if you think Arum is going to walk away from this fight. Walk away and do what? Let Pac just retire or let Pac fight Valero for chump change and retire, or let Pac fight SSM for 5x less and then retire? Hell No Arum wont do that and Floyd knows it. Arum knows Pac may retire after his next fight so he's going to want to drain him like a turnip. Arum cares about his money way more than he cares about Pac and he's going to drain it all out of him, which means taking less for the Floyd fight. Yes i mis quoted what i was supposed to say which i think you have picked up on anyway is that post Cotto Pacquiao , Pac will be more or less level with Floyd (combining there last 3 PPV fights) as going off his past numbers you would have to expect that fight to do 1.5 buys possibly 1.75 !!!!! Pacquiao's next fight if he beats Cotto (should it not be Floyd) will be Mosley and again you'd have to expect 1.25 - .50 buys !!!!! , Floyd sold 1 million because it was his comeback fight , like you said Floyd's numbers before DLH were not great !!!!!! , its this simple if Manny Pacquiao beats Miguel Cotto Floyd needs him !!!!! , he needs him for his legacy and he needs him for that last payday he's looking for .

Great point, I love it. Well, I guess we should follow the Floyd Mayweather rules then, Joe should then be ranked #2. F**k it, lets change it. Have Mayweather jump 3 divisons and face Calzaghe, lmao. Exactly I mean that is the logic that DLT is using. If Joe comes back and beats Mosley or Floyd he gets the #2 spot. Why not? And, then we can all say what a great win it was. Lennox Lewis can come out of retirement and in his first fight back beats Chad Dawson. Lewis is the #2 HW. And, we can all say what great of a win it was. See the logic that this nuthuggers use sometimes kills me bro. Is like they just talk without thinking.

Come on man. I have alot more respect for you than this. I just cant beleveive you keep saying this stuff. So what if Mosley was an ex #1. You think thats the same as Floyd? Floyd is an ex simply because he retired. Shane is an ex because he lost 4 out of 5 fights and looked like crap in others. RJ is an ex because he got KO twice. Thats not the same kind of ex as Floyd. He's undefeated and just retired. Really, it hasnt even been that long. Its not like he was gone 5 years and came back. He shouldnt have to work his way up the ladder like that, espicaly when most of the guys around him in the P4P list lost while he was gone. Are you really going to put all of them over Floyd? I didnt have Floyd ranked either because he retired but after 1 fight I said that if he looks good then he immediatly jumps to #2. I said that I will give Pac his respect as he's been killing cats but no one else should be ahead of Floyd except JMM and Floyd killed him to get that spot. If Floyd isnt #2 then seriously, where is he? Where do you have him ranked and tell me the guys you have ahead of him because you know as well as I do that pretty much anyone you say is nonsense. Cotto, Margarito, Hopkins? 3 cats that recently got killed or embarrased. Williams who got beat easily over 12 rounds by Quintana or who? Who can you rank over him bara? The statement I have in bold shows your knowledge bro. You are an idiot homie. Hopkins has never been killed or embarrased ever. Not even against a prime Roy Jones did Hopkins get killed or embarrased. You making a huge mistake trying to defend Floyd by dissing elite fighters. You can't defend him in that way cuz you make yourself look stupid like with the Hopkins comment. If you keep fighting top and elite you going to lose. They could easy take the Floyd route and just fight easy fights. But, that is not greatness material to do that. But, really bro get your boxing knowledge and then try to debate. Cuz that Hopkins comment makes you sound like an idiot. Just a little advise for you ok bro. Enjoy Floyd next fight against the winner of Oscar-Chavez Jr.

Come on man. I have alot more respect for you than this. I just cant beleveive you keep saying this stuff. So what if Mosley was an ex #1. You think thats the same as Floyd? Floyd is an ex simply because he retired. Shane is an ex because he lost 4 out of 5 fights and looked like crap in others. RJ is an ex because he got KO twice. Thats not the same kind of ex as Floyd. He's undefeated and just retired. Really, it hasnt even been that long. Its not like he was gone 5 years and came back. He shouldnt have to work his way up the ladder like that, espicaly when most of the guys around him in the P4P list lost while he was gone. Are you really going to put all of them over Floyd? I have a question. Lets say if Joe Calzaghe comes out of retirement. And, in his first fight back he fights Shane Mosley. And, Calzaghe wins. Where should he be ranked? Remember he was #1 when he retired and undefeated.

Why do you keep saying that? You seriously think Floyd right now will fight Pac and then retire. Then if he doesnt fight Pac, you think he will just retire or fight an average guy and then retire? Seriously, why would he do that. He's definatly going to fight atleast 1 of those WW's and probably more I wanna believe that. But I won't til it happens. He openly states he just fightin for $ now. He wants Pac, and I believe he'll press hard for the fight if Cotto loses in Nov. But if Cotto wins, I think he'll walk as long as his $ situation allows him to.

Truth. Mr boat buyer's other options are 2 guys he don't want it wit no more. His comeback is all about Pac. But if Pac beats Cotto, I hope they fight. Why do you keep saying that? You seriously think Floyd right now will fight Pac and then retire. Then if he doesnt fight Pac, you think he will just retire or fight an average guy and then retire? Seriously, why would he do that. He's definatly going to fight atleast 1 of those WW's and probably more

Before we go into the PPV argument , Floyd has an 0 by his name for a couple of reasons , firstly the judges who scored Floyd Castillo 1 where smoking crack and secondly he has ducked every WW in the 147 lb division capable of beating him or at least capable of giving the guy a fright !!!!!! Ok Manny sold 2 million PPV's combined with the 2 fights with DLH and Hatton , Floyd over sold him by 1.5 million (3.5 million in total) with the same two opponents , Floyd sold a further 1 million against Marquez and we still have Manny & Cotto to go yet , once that fight is over and we combine Floyd's and Manny's numbers there will be around 750'000 - 1 million between them . Now lets take into account if Manny beats Cotto , his already impressive PPV numbers will go up agreed ???? , thankyou , making him the closest PPV attraction to Mayweather in world boxing !!!!! That is why Floyd is not intitled to the Lion's share and Manny is !!!!! , Arum will walk away from Floyd there is no doubt about that , and Floyd can keep making his 1 million PPV's against lesser fighters but we'll all know who the P4P number 1 is and it wont be Void !!!!!! come on man, dont be a homer. That dont even make sense what you just said. You said that Floyd just did 1.5mil more than Pac but after the Cotto fight the numbers will be 750-1mil apart. How is that? Thats like your saying that Pac-Cotto will do 1.5-1.75. If floyd is up on him by 1.5 now then how can that number get cut in half with Pac-Cotto unless they put up crazy numbers? Thats not happening. You also said Pac beating Cotto will raise his PPV numbers but what about Floyd? His get higher every fight. You think his arent raising? Then one thing everyone forgets to take into account was the pre Oscar stuff. Pre Oscar Floyd wasnt the star he is now but he was still way bigger than Pac and had made 10x more money than Pac had in his career. Its been there whole careers that Floyd has made alot more money so how can Pac get 50/50 or more? Youre being a homer now. Also, you are smoking if you think Arum is going to walk away from this fight. Walk away and do what? Let Pac just retire or let Pac fight Valero for chump change and retire, or let Pac fight SSM for 5x less and then retire? Hell No Arum wont do that and Floyd knows it. Arum knows Pac may retire after his next fight so he's going to want to drain him like a turnip. Arum cares about his money way more than he cares about Pac and he's going to drain it all out of him, which means taking less for the Floyd fight.

That doesnt make any sense. How would a Pac win over Cotto means that he earns the lions share? You are getting mixed up with wins and PPV sales. Its about the sales. If you cant outsell your opponent then you arent going to get more or even money with him unless you have proven to be alot better and the other guy is desperate. That is not the case here at all. Floyd has outselled Pac easily. He's the #1 earner in the sport right now so he's not going to take even money with Pac even if he did beat Cotto. The thing you said about everyone Floyd fights will be compared to Pac is so vice versa. Floyd was the one who was retired for 2 years and all anyone talked about was who can beat Floyd. No matter who fought, all anyone talked about was how they would matchup with Floyd. No matter what people want to admit, Floyd has that 0 in the loss column and its big. Pac can beat Cotto & Mosley & Paul Williams but everyone is still going to wonder at the end of the day, could he have takened that 0 from Floyd. Weve seen Pac get beat. That carries weight. Im not saying that no one will give Pac credit. Everyone will as they love him and hate Floyd but deep down people will still know that this guy has that 0 there and Pac has a chance to take it from him if he wants it. If not then it is what it is Before we go into the PPV argument , Floyd has an 0 by his name for a couple of reasons , firstly the judges who scored Floyd Castillo 1 where smoking crack and secondly he has ducked every WW in the 147 lb division capable of beating him or at least capable of giving the guy a fright !!!!!! Ok Manny sold 2 million PPV's combined with the 2 fights with DLH and Hatton , Floyd over sold him by 1.5 million (3.5 million in total) with the same two opponents , Floyd sold a further 1 million against Marquez and we still have Manny & Cotto to go yet , once that fight is over and we combine Floyd's and Manny's numbers there will be around 750'000 - 1 million between them . Now lets take into account if Manny beats Cotto , his already impressive PPV numbers will go up agreed ???? , thankyou , making him the closest PPV attraction to Mayweather in world boxing !!!!! That is why Floyd is not intitled to the Lion's share and Manny is !!!!! , Arum will walk away from Floyd there is no doubt about that , and Floyd can keep making his 1 million PPV's against lesser fighters but we'll all know who the P4P number 1 is and it wont be Void !!!!!!

Truth. Mr boat buyer's other options are 2 guys he don't want it wit no more. His comeback is all about Pac. But if Pac beats Cotto, I hope they fight.

loyd hatton .9m ppv buys pac hatton 1.8m ppv buys pac dlh 1.6m ppv buys floyd dlh 2.4 ppv buys pac jmm .4m ppv buys floyd jmm 1m ppv buys pac floyd they estimate 3m ppv with floyd taking 50% wih pac...neither could make more taking 100% on any other fight where did you get those Hatton numbers from? Also, are you going to act like the JMM fight didnt just happened? He did a mil against a guy that no knows in a fight that everyone dissed and said wouldnt sell 300,000

we all know that.....floyd,an ex p4p#1....ssm,an ex p4p # 1...wouyld' you rate ssm as high as #2 beating jmm at ww even if he was rated #4?....and the thing is,floyd was not even in the top 10 when he beat jmm....he's rated way too high.... Come on man. I have alot more respect for you than this. I just cant beleveive you keep saying this stuff. So what if Mosley was an ex #1. You think thats the same as Floyd? Floyd is an ex simply because he retired. Shane is an ex because he lost 4 out of 5 fights and looked like crap in others. RJ is an ex because he got KO twice. Thats not the same kind of ex as Floyd. He's undefeated and just retired. Really, it hasnt even been that long. Its not like he was gone 5 years and came back. He shouldnt have to work his way up the ladder like that, espicaly when most of the guys around him in the P4P list lost while he was gone. Are you really going to put all of them over Floyd? I didnt have Floyd ranked either because he retired but after 1 fight I said that if he looks good then he immediatly jumps to #2. I said that I will give Pac his respect as he's been killing cats but no one else should be ahead of Floyd except JMM and Floyd killed him to get that spot. If Floyd isnt #2 then seriously, where is he? Where do you have him ranked and tell me the guys you have ahead of him because you know as well as I do that pretty much anyone you say is nonsense. Cotto, Margarito, Hopkins? 3 cats that recently got killed or embarrased. Williams who got beat easily over 12 rounds by Quintana or who? Who can you rank over him bara?

If Pacquiao loses then Floyd Pacquiao has no meaning , so we'll be looking at Mayweather Cotto unless Void ducks him too !!!!!! Not necessarily, PACMAN has a lot of Fans, That would pay to see him try to get back on top. Even if he loses PACMAN and Floyd can still do a million buys on PPV. They will just have to make a million excuses on Why PACMAN lost to Cotto to help sell the fight to novice fans.

loyd hatton .9m ppv buys pac hatton 1.8m ppv buys pac dlh 1.6m ppv buys floyd dlh 2.4 ppv buys pac jmm .4m ppv buys floyd jmm 1m ppv buys pac floyd they estimate 3m ppv with floyd taking 50% wih pac...neither could make more taking 100% on any other fight