shogun1123

Is jeremy lin atg? Kobe is a hype job!!!!!!!!!!!

I just finished watching Mayweather and Chico Corrales fight from 2001.

Manny is a fraud. He is the most hyped fighter in recent boxing history. ATG, HOF really look at his last 8 fights. Tell me what in his last eight fights makes him ATG or HOF worthy. Yes he is entertaining to watch but his career is soley based on great matchmaking. He only fights people that he has a clear advantage over in hand speed and mobility. That last fighter Manny faced that had anything related to World Class Boxing skills(JMM) beat Manny twice. I don’t care how the judges scored it JMM won both times. Since then Manny/Roach/Arum has avoided any and all fighters that have great boxing skills. Manny last six opponents were coming of losses or getting KTFO in the previous fight before facing Manny. Manny is a Mainstream Media(ESPN)Hype Job. Most of them over at ESPN don’t know jack about the current state of affairs in boxing. "Mr. I am afraid of needles" GTFOOH and take the damn test. IF PBF had refused to take a blood test to proves he is clean, the writers over at ESPN, FOX Sports and all of the Sports Web sites would be in a uproar calling him a cheater like they did with Barry Bonds and Sammy Sosa. Really look at Manny’s last 6 fights and tell me how does any of those fights warrant a #1 P4p ranking. He only fights weight drained corpses that are coming of losses or KO losses. Now he chooses to fight Old ass Mosley who has not won a fight in 2 years. Typical Manny/Roach/ARUM bullsh*t. But they choose the wrong has been this time. If slow ass margarito was able to get to Manny and bust him up. Mosley will get to him more and bust him up more. I see this as the first mistake Roach and Arum has made in choosing Manny's last 7 opponents. I predict MOSLEY will beat and bust Manny up pretty bad. NO!, I PREDICT MOSLEY WILL KO MANNY IN 9 or 10 rounds. There will be no PACMAN vs. PBF superfight, Because Manny will lose. I just don't think he is that good. I have seen no evidence of him being a great boxer/fighter. MOSLEY only got this fight because he is the very LAST big name ARUM and ROACH could find that is damaged goods and is many years past his prime.

Here is a guy who looks like he is in his physical peek, no matter does not matter how he got there cough P.E.D, cough P.E.D. His boxing skills are as good as it going to get for a one dimensional fighter like PACROID and yet he chooses to fight people that will do nothing to enhance or improve his legacy in the sport. I’m not going to rehash his last six fights we all have been up and down that road many times. I distinctly remember RJJ doing the same thing for many years in the sport. RJJ spent many years fighting mandatory challengers even tough there was better opposition out there for him to fight. Now to PACROID’s credit he has chosen fighters that have a better name in the sport than RJJ did. But nevertheless these fighters PACROID recently has fought present no serious threat. Especially when the threat just got their ass kicked or KO’d their previous fight. Then as another insult to boxing fans, PACROID forces these diminished fighters to fight a catch weight to insure that they will not be able to fight at their physical peek. I serious think PACROID may fall victim to his own press clippings, the media and his nationalistic rabid fans (PACTARDS). PACROID, ARUM and ROACH are out of diminished big names to put PACROID in with. All that’s left is JMM, PBF, BERTO, ALEXANDER and BRADLEY. OH yeah! I forgot there is the now diminished SHANE MOSLEY as the last big name they can fight. Why do you think ARUM is trying to force this fight on us? Nobody wants to see it. ARUM and ROACH knows that there is only so long you can hide a one dimensional fighter before he has to move up and start fighting the A level competition. PACROIDS last A level completion that he face end in a draw and a highly disputed decision with JMM. (JMM beat PACROID twice and that’s just the truth) RJJ avoided A-Level competition for many years and his skills and physical abilities got stagnant. When RJJ finally decided to test himself again against A-Level level competition we all know what happened, KTFO is what happened, Tarver taxed his as twice. Then he got KTFO by Johnson and beat by Calzaghe. This is the path that PACROID is on if he is not careful. Fighting broken weight drained fighters does nothing to prepare you for JMM, PBF, BERTO, ALEXANDER and BRADLEY. The reason we keep hearing all this MOSLEY talk from ARUM is because, he knows MOSLEY has a name he is diminished and willing to weight drain himself to get the fight. This will be PACROID’s last Hoorah, before the whole house of cards that is PACROID, gets demolished. They better be very careful MOSLEY is not a diminished as they think, unless they weight drain MOSLEY he will be very tough competition physically for PACROID. MOSLEY is very capable Knocking Out PACROID. PACROID will then be in the same boat rowing with RJJ.

At first to me PACTARDS were just stupid youngsters pecking away on their computers because they have not learned about women and Pu**y yet. Then to me they were just ignorant about boxing because they were new converts to the sport because of their idol's contaminated winning streak. Now they are starting to anger me with this ATG Bullsh*t. Now I know, they know, not what they do or what they say. They are just excited and proud that their idol is one of them and looks like them, I REALLY GET IT! I truly do. Hell Obama is the first AA president, but you don't see me or other AA running around talking about OBAMA is a ATG president. Yes Obama has had a lot of fights and he has won most of them. but his body of work is not complete yet. He has to win another election in 2 years and do a good job in his second term before he can make it in to a ATG convo. PACTARDS's at some point they have to start acting like knowledgeable boxing fans by contributing something meaningful and insightful to this forum other than is 'My idol a ATG?". I really like coming to this forum and reading boxing articles and member posts, but not as much as I use to. It really feels like I'm in High School most of the time when I'm reading some of the stuff posted by PACTARD's or their comments to threads posted by other members. This forum has just turned into a place where nationalism, naming calling and bigotry is the normal mode of things. ALL nationalism, name calling and bigotry aside THIS IS THE TRUTH. Their idol is just a entertaining fighter, that's it. ATG way to early to have that convo. Not because their idol has not had enough big fights, he has. The problem is who their idol and his people chooses fight. The problem is when he fights them(after losses or KO's). The problem is the condition his chosen opponents are forced to fight in (a weight drained shell of their normal physical and mental condition). So far as I am concerned he gets 0 credit or points for his last 6 fights. None of those fight puts him in a convo for ATG status. Beating sub PAR opponents that are already damaged goods and weight drained does not increase your status. Hell it does not even take away from your status. But it sure in hell does not improve your stauts in the sport. Pacquaio is in a holding pattern. He has been in that pattern since the JMM fights (which he lost both times). ARUM and ROACH has kept their idol away from anyone that has the ability to consistently hit him back. When their idol puts together a string of wins that includes A level fighters in prime condition, proper weight and not coming of KO's or losses, he will start to move up the ladder towards ATG status. If PACTARD's want their idol to get in the ATG convo, he the idol must first do the following in no specific order: 1.TAKE THE DAMN TESTS 2.Fight JMM and win for God sake (he has lost to this dude twice) 3.Fight PBF and WIN (on the first try or the second try just get a win) 4.Fight and knock off a young gun either Bradley, Alexander or Berto 5.No more catch weight fights with dudes that are damaged and weight drained Once the idol completes every task on that this list, I will proudly become a PACTARD myself.

I'm no longer calling Pacquiao by his real name or nickname PACMAN. From this day forth is will be just PACROID!!!!!!!!!!! It is time he just take the damn tests and stop holding up the fight with his weak ass argument about giving blood makes him feel weak. PBF can't take OST off the table he will lose face if he does. PBF has taken the stance that his trying to clean up the sport. Being that he and PACRIOD are the biggest names in the sport PACROID should be helping him do the same. Instead PACROID is only concerned with his own superstitions and secrets that he may be hiding from the sport and his fans. PACROID can agree to take the tests and clear any doubt about his use of PED's. His should at least do it for his millions of FANS around the world. PBF has taken the moral high ground on this issue and will win the argument in this end. So PACROID it is from here on out. No I'm not a hater. I can't apply for a job here in the U.S. and tell my potential employer that I can't take the required drug test because I am scared of needles. Then when I get the job I can tell my employer for future tests, I need a cut off date or I need to know when they are coming to test me. It just does not work that way, I have to prove I'm clean and not a user. Especially if other people lives depend on it.

They can fight at catchweight of 141lbs. All ARUM needs to do is call his boys at the WBC and make them strip Vitali Klitschko of his title, then that opens the door for Manny to win another belt in a higher weight division. note... I stole the thread title from a comment from some dude on ringtalk.com named "rh"

I say yes!!!!!!!! Retire now cause ARUM and Roach are out of big names that just got KTFO or just loss in their previous fight to put Manny in with. All that’s left now is JMM who they fought life and death with Twice(Manny lost both times). All that’s left now is African American young guns that can match Manny’s foot speed and quickness. Arum and Roach don’t want no part of that cause if they did they would have done it already. All that’s left is King Kong PBF. They will take that fight, the $$$$$ is just to good to turn down. Yes quitting or retiring now makes sense. Cause it’s all down hill from here for Manny. The miles are going to add up real quick from here on out. Arum’s stable is fresh out of damages goods to fight for Fake titles. Hey if Floyd did it so can Manny.

I'm just telling the truth. PACMAN fans at least most of the ones that come here to post are the most childish, nationalistic and immature group of people I have ever seen. They don’t care about boxing they only care if we the real boxing fans see PACMAN as they see him, as a GOD, as an ATG. The more logic and facts we give them to the contrary makes them react at times very childish and extremely immature. They start acting sounding like a bunch of High School kids and engage in name calling instead of intelligent boxing banter. My guess is that it's a bunch of high school kids that are young and at this time very immature. They primarily use PACMAN as a means to boost their own self-esteem and pride as a Filipino. That’s cools I’m sure we Black Americans felt they same way about Jack Johnson and Joe Lewis back in the day. But since there were no Web Forums back then we did not get a chance to annoy the rest of the planet with our admiration for those boxers who meant so much to us at that time in history. I guess if we did not have other great athletes who are professionals in other sport such as Basketball, Football, Baseball, Track and Field and p*rn we Black Americans would probably be in all the boxing Web Forums touting the only thing/person we did have that made us proud to be who we are. Oh well such is Life, I just hope that when PBF kicks PACMAN’s ass there is not a mass suicide of members from these forums. P.S... I REALLY like Pacquiao; I just know that he is a product of great matchmaking, catch weights and paper titles. ATG? Not Yet. FIGHT THE REAL CHAMPS AT THE REAL WEIGHTS then we can talk!!

This is not rocket science PACTARD's or whatever you want to call them. PACMAN should take the Damn blood tests. PACMAN will always be suspect if he does not. If Pacman had asked for the Olympic style blood tests and Mayweather did not agree. PACTARDS and PACMAN fans would say that PBF as something to hide. I don't think PACMAN was on STEROIDS, but now I really think he was or is trying to hide something. It's a little blood, fighters lose a lot blood in the ring all the time. What’s the big deal PACMAN? “PACMAN IS NOW FOREVER SUSPECT" and always will be suspect. PACTARD's and PACMAN fans quit lying to yourself. If any other fighter had denied having true and effective testing you all would be calling that fighter a STEROID user. PACTARD's are not boxing fans they only care about PACMAN. PACTARD's did not show up on boxing forums until PACMAN started winning fights. Before then they were all running around on dance contest television shows and putting stupid shit on their cars so people can notice them. With the PACTARD’S it’s not about boxing it’s about cultural pride. They finally have something “masculine” they can associate with their culture and country. So trying to get them to make sense and assist with making sure the biggest money fight in boxing history is fought on an even playing field is futile. They don’t want Olympic style testing because they don’t have a clue about it. Nobody representing the Philippines has ever won a Gold medal of any kind in the Olympics. So they have no reason to care about Olympic style testing. I have don’t have anything but love for the Philippines and the people of that country. Hell I lived there for two years when I was in the AIR FORCE. All I can and will say about my time there is “FUN, FUN, FUN” if you know what I mean. But anyway back to my rant. Boxing like other sports needs to be cleaned up and what better place to start than the biggest money fight in boxing history. PACTARD’s deep down know PACMAN is hiding something. They don’t want him to get found out if his is really hiding something. Because when that happens they will have go back to focusing on what they were previously doing, Dance contests and putting stickers and loud pipes on their automobiles.

Going to be an American sweep in the first round of Super Six I just feel it. I'm not crazy, just break each fight down in the first round. Dirrell will surprize you all by punishing and outclassing Froch, That kid is stronger than you think. Taylor will out muscle Abraham and KO him in the middle of the fight. Or at least knock him down a few times, If his stamina holds up Ward is going to outclass Kessler PBF style, it wont be entertainging but it will be art.

It will be 4 losses when he loses to Cotto. Actually 6 losses to go with his 2 draws(JMM beat him twice). What will you crazy PACMAN fanatics do then. Hopefully finally realize that PACMAN is just a good fighter not GREAT just good. I like PACMAN, but I'm not stupid I know what he is. He a good action fighter, period. All time Great, not even close, He has been knocked out twice by nobodies, SIX losses plus 2 draws. So just stop it. beating a severely drained DLH and over hyped HATTON does not mean anything. But the truth will set you free and his name is COTTO. It wont be the end of your world when PACMAN gets his ass handed to him by COTTO, Donaire or even Brain Viloria can use your support. I'm sure they would like and appreciate some of that nut sucking love yall completely give to PACMAN. And before you ask or wonder, Yes I'm black, Yes I think Floyd Jr. is the best right now, Yes I am a PACMAN fan also and Yes, I don't lie to myself about my favorite fighters.

When a country has ONE ICON, those people of that country will deliver to that ICON Mythical status, no matter if he deserves it or not. PACMAN is just a good FIGHTER. Not great yet, just good. England did it with Hatton, PR did it with TITO, In the end they finally ran into the truth. Good match making will only get you so far. PACMAN is only at the top right now because PBF retired for a few years. I really like PACMAN not as much as his fellow Philipinos. My philipino brothers please don't let Philipino pride get in the way of sound boxing judgement. PACMAN lost to JMM twice and he has been previously KO'd two or three times in the past by boxing nobodies. The only reason he is fighting Cotto now is because ROACH thinks COTTO is damaged goods. We all know ROACH, if he thought COTTO was the same fighter as he was before the Margarito fight this fight would not be happening. He would be saying COTTO is too big. Every boxing forum I go to is full of Filipino fans and Filipino pride proclaiming PACMAN as a boxing GOD. He is going to get destroyed by Cotto. Cotto is not Damaged goods yet and you all will find that out very soon. Even if PACMAN loses I will be proud of him for taking on the challenge.