Why? Cotto been facing bigger dudes since the jump to 147 and I don't see people praising him for taking on this challenges. Pacquiao on the other hand gets all the credit because he jumped division after division but what people don't understand is that until he got to face De La Hoya he was always the bigger dude in the smaller division or the other dude was not that much bigger than him.
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Yep, Pacman also fights smaller guys
Wow. Are you actually trying to convince people Manny Pacquiao is bigger than DelaHoya?
why cant we assume with pacquiao when we have an unofficial weight in but people are quick to assume cotto's weight when we dont get an unofficial weight in?
Thats what I've been saying. I even ask that question when the Mayweather fans where saying Cotto would hydrate too much weigh and saying it like it is an absolute fact, all we can do is assume. But on this fight Cotto would have the advantage on size based on that he have multiple fights at Welterweight so he would be more comfortable and this is only Pacquiao's 3rd fight above 135. Skills and Determination win fight not weight, thats why I hate it that they made this a catchweight.
Thats my point, we don't know. I have ask this question a number of times on different forum even here in BS, but nobody knows how they are weigh. So are we gonna assume?
why cant we assume with pacquiao when we have an unofficial weight in but people are quick to assume cotto's weight when we dont get an unofficial weight in?
dont they weight in a the same place?? so if the platform is not balance then it would be for both fighter. its not like manny gets nake for the weight in. he got clothes and most likely the other fighter do to
Thats my point, we don't know. I have ask this question a number of times on different forum even here in BS, but nobody knows how they are weigh. So are we gonna assume?
lol... nice try... but are there officials at the weigh in? are they weigh on there clothes? with jewelries? is the place where the weigh in done on a balance platorm? So many things to consider, and I'm not sure but on one forum they even said some fighter's like to weigh more than there actual weigh to have a mental advantage...
dont they weight in a the same place?? so if the platform is not balance then it would be for both fighter. its not like manny gets nake for the weight in. he got clothes and most likely the other fighter do to
Cotto as well outweighs his opponents.
Clottey is the only fighter that Cotto weighed less than.
He outweighed everyone at 140. And weighs the same as Margarito and Mosley at WW fight night
So whats your point, you think that neither deserve any credit for fighting people that are physically larger than them because they weigh more?!? Some people's bodies hold more water than others and who knows how the fighters are weighed unofficially. Maybe one guy took a healthy crap before the unofficial weigh in or left their warm-ups/shoes on, there's a good 2-3 pounds right there.
These guys don't care what their unofficial weight is come fight night. They care if they feel good and are concentrating on their fight, not an unofficial scale.
but why complain about cotto rehydrating to 160 pound when your fighter rehydrate 14-16 pounds
don't throw rocks if you live in a glass house
Cotto does'nt even allow fight night weigh-in but thats not the issue, Cotto has been Welterweight for a long time, and Pacquiao's exhibition at welterweight he weigh-in at 142 at the official weigh-in.
how else do you think they do the unofficial weight in?/??
i think it could be a scale??
lol... nice try... but are there officials at the weigh in? are they weigh on there clothes? with jewelries? is the place where the weigh in done on a balance platorm? So many things to consider, and I'm not sure but on one forum they even said some fighter's like to weigh more than there actual weigh to have a mental advantage...
Oh yea, I forgot to mention that I'm assuming that pac's weight gain is all water weight. I've been a long distance runner for nearly 15 years and I'll tell you that almost every endurance racer usually over-hydrates (not to dangerous levels of course) in preparation of their races to lower the risk of dehydration.
We all know Pac has incredible stamina and he relies on being able to be at full speed all 12 rounds so it makes sense for him to carry a little more water so he doesn't gas during the fight.
Wow, whats that 5...5 out of 50+ fights were Pac rehydrated a few pounds over his opponent is hardly "usually".
Fact of the matter is Pac has been climbing weight classes for years and thats what he gets credit for. Cotto has been at 147 for a while and he's fighting WW's. If he fought middle weights that'd be another story.
These are unofficial fight night weight. Is there a boxing rule how much a fighter can rehydrate themselves to?
but why complain about cotto rehydrating to 160 pound when your fighter rehydrate 14-16 pounds
don't throw rocks if you live in a glass house
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Yep, Pacman also fights smaller guys
These are unofficial fight night weight. Is there a boxing rule how much a fighter can rehydrate themselves to?
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Yep, Pacman also fights smaller guys
he gain about 14 to 16 pound for all those fight except the de la hoya one. plus add my sig
Post pics or articles where Pacquiao was the bigger guy? And don't give me the unofficial weigh in unless you are gonna explain how they are weigh in.
how else do you think they do the unofficial weight in?/??
i think it could be a scale??
The only boxer that outweighed Cotto is Clottey. No one else.
Margarito's fight night weight is 160 and Cotto is also 160 as well.
Pacman also outweighs most of his opponents
This got me thinking... this link shows Pac officially weighs less than his opponents in most fights. Sorry they don't have fight night weight... or post fight weight for that matter.
http://www.boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_id=6129&cat=boxer
Pacquiao rarely faces bigger opponents. Most of the time, Pacquiao has been the bigger guy.
Post pics or articles where Pacquiao was the bigger guy? And don't give me the unofficial weigh in unless you are gonna explain how they are weigh in.
height Is As Big A factor As Wieght And Speed, And When Pac is At That Disadvantage Hes Givin Alot Of Praise When he Comes Threw Witt The Win, And The Division Change Just Adds To the Praise.
Why? Cotto been facing bigger dudes since the jump to 147 and I don't see people praising him for taking on this challenges. Pacquiao on the other hand gets all the credit because he jumped division after division but what people don't understand is that until he got to face De La Hoya he was always the bigger dude in the smaller division or the other dude was not that much bigger than him.
It's arguable that the fighters he's faced are bigger. He's as strong as an ox at welter. It's clearly his natural weight. He looked more vulnerable at 140. He's taken shots from 147 fighters that would've concussed him at jr w.