***EDIT 7/28/09***
Taylor is going to Houston to train at George Foreman's training camp.
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Taylor was quoted the other day as saying he would be training in Houston for the Abraham fight, leading me to wonder who he might be training with there after he expressed some dissatisfaction with his corner following the Froch fight. He has been training in Miami since leaving Steward and has a condo down there, so unless he's just relocating camp to avoid the Miami police who arrested him in May, I've got to assume he's working with a Houston-based trainer.
Ronnie Shields is based in Houston and trains Dominic Guinn, another Arkansas native and good friend of Taylor's.
Can anyone fill me in on Shields' quality as a trainer? He's worked with some big names but barring a return to Pat Burns, Shields is not the kind of big name trainer most fans were looking for Taylor to bring in.
This is just speculation, though... if anyone knows of any other Houston based trainers that would make likely candidates, chime in.
No word on a new head trainer for Taylor, which leads me to believe he's sticking with Ozell Nelson, but it's been confirmed that he's training at one of George Foreman's gyms in Houston, probably his private training facility.
Jermain Taylor plans to train for the super middleweight tournament at George Foreman's training camp in Houston. Taylor's trainer Ozell Nelson wants Foreman to offer input. "George knows what it feels like to be on top and then go all the way down again," Nelson said
http://www.nypost.com/seven/07182009/sports/boxing/carano__cybrog_geared_to_show_off_girl_p_179988.htm
It was also poor ring advice from Ozzie Nelson. Nelson told Taylor that he need to win rounds 12 when he really didn't. All Talyor had to do in the 12th round, was constantly stay away and no exchange and he would of won the fight.
Any responsible trainer would have done the same, even though 2 official judges had it by 3 points going into the last round, it was a close fight. Froch had been coming on strong and Jermain had only won 1 maybe 2 in the last half.
Anyways... Shields is an underrated trainer, but unless he can teach Taylor how to effectively hide his severe stamina problem, it won't matter. Taylor threw 390 f*cking punches against Froch and still got exhausted!
Taylor needs to put more work in training. He should be putting no less than 24 rounds worth of work in during sessions. His regimen for Froch was disappointing to me. 10-12 rounds of sparring wasn't leaving him with good stamina reserves.
The fatigue can be fixed I think, Jermain needs a prayer on defense though. He has no footwork, backs up in straight lines, and drops that left when flustered.
Am I the only one who thinks Jermain looked great in the 1st Pavlik fight except that he ran out of stamina trying to finish it in the second? Although he won the 2nd for me, he looked dominant on the 1st one.
Taylor seems to be pretty tense in the ring, so he tires out near the end. Against Froch it was really like watching an hour glass.
It was also poor ring advice from Ozzie Nelson. Nelson told Taylor that he need to win rounds 12 when he really didn't. All Talyor had to do in the 12th round, was constantly stay away and no exchange and he would of won the fight.
I don't know what to really make of this. Cintron isn't a resurrected fighter by beating a B-level opponent in Angulo. And Taylor is jumping right back into the fire without showing us he can beat a top caliber opponent. Shields will probably do some good for him though.
Yeah, it's a little confusing to me as well.
Oddly enough Cintron trained with Manny Steward at the same time Taylor did.
Anyway this is just pure speculation on my part, but why else would Taylor abandon Miami to train in Houston, unless it's because of his recent arrest in Miami... plus with Guinn being trained by Shields, and Taylor and Guinn being buddies... everything just seems to point to Shields.
I don't know what to really make of this. Cintron isn't a resurrected fighter by beating a B-level opponent in Angulo. And Taylor is jumping right back into the fire without showing us he can beat a top caliber opponent. Shields will probably do some good for him though.
Taylor fought good, measured paced boxing matches wit Pavlik in the rematch and Froch. Still, his stamina failed him. And I think his chin is dented now too. I don't think a new trainer will help him any. Dude is done as a top fighter imo.
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Jermaine must stop drinking
his stamina problems and his chin giving in are from drinking
its that simple that people who have plenty of brain fluid (from not drinking and not Fuking) dont get nearly as fatigued and have good chins
There is a lot of truth to what you say. I remember thinking the same thing about Mike Tyson after the Lennox fight. With Mike it was also a lot of weed and coke that deteriorated his body, stamina and will.
On the issue of trainer though. Don't forget that Ronnie also trained Evander for many years. Ronnie is a very technically sound trainer who breaks down film very well. I think though, for Jermain, it is a bad fit because Ronnie is not going to baby sit anybody into getting into shape. Pat Burns was the best fit for Jermain because Pat was able to motivate Jermain and control camp. Burns laid down a regimen and insisted that Jermain follow that regimen.
look
Jermaine must stop drinking
his stamina problems and his chin giving in are from drinking
its that simple that people who have plenty of brain fluid (from not drinking and not Fuking) dont get nearly as fatigued and have good chins
ronnie's biggest fighter was prolly david tua, he got the flick after the lennox lewis fight and then popped up one time in tysons fight against uhhh......some one.
He gets press whenever he's got fight buzz, like right now.
Nothing real negative after the Froch loss; the tone was mainly one of pride for his gutsy performance and disappointment in the way it ended, with constructive criticism of his stamina and decision to mix it up in the final round instead of play it safe.
thanks man. green k
Other than boxing training I think JT should hire a good personal trainer for him to have stamina and endurance during the fight.
A good personal trainer will help him put extra effort as well as inspire him to work harder.
agreed....
Ronnie Shields i assume would be the guy down here in houston. Kenny Weldon is another name trainer down here but he hasnt done much lately and i think hes been mainly working with amateurs.
What's your opinion on Shields? Good or bad fit for Taylor?
Ah, does Jermain get a lot of press in Little Rock? Did he get any negative after the Froch fight?
He gets press whenever he's got fight buzz, like right now.
Nothing real negative after the Froch loss; the tone was mainly one of pride for his gutsy performance and disappointment in the way it ended, with constructive criticism of his stamina and decision to mix it up in the final round instead of play it safe.
His local newspaper mentioned that he would be training in Houston and then moving camp to Germany three weeks prior to the fight.
Ah, does Jermain get a lot of press in Little Rock? Did he get any negative after the Froch fight?
Ronnie Shields i assume would be the guy down here in houston. Kenny Weldon is another name trainer down here but he hasnt done much lately and i think hes been mainly working with amateurs.