Marquez should be P4P #1 instead of Pac because....

Lol... what made a fighter popular its because they are the best fighter.. casamayor, juan diaz and JMM are not popular because theyre just good fighters. casamayor and juan diaz are not even close to the level of dela hoya and hatton, try to look at their records so that youll stop comparing the best fighters from crap fighters..WTF LOLOLOL!!!! Let me see, hatton beat a shot castillo and tsyzu. Got killed by Collazo and Mayweather. Thats it. DLH has lost like 4 of his last 6 fights.

Look at Marquez' last three fights compared to Pac's. Marquez Pac (many thought he beat him) Casamayor (never previously ko'd)<---overthehill fighter, shot! Juan Diaz (never even dropped, much less ko'd)<-----pillow puncher! Pac David Daiz (trash) DLH (trash) Hatton (even more trash) The only reason pac gets more p4p recognition is because he beat much more popular fighters. Where as Marquez just fights the best. Marquez fights the best? Marquez ducked Paquaio on their immediate rematch after they draw at 126 lbs. JMM instead went to the jungles of Indonesia to fight Cris John for $35,000....turning down the $750,000 rematch purse with Pacquiao...LMAO

Look at Marquez' last three fights compared to Pac's. Marquez Pac (many thought he beat him) Casamayor (never previously ko'd) Juan Diaz (never even dropped, much less ko'd) Pac David Daiz (trash) DLH (trash) Hatton (even more trash) The only reason pac gets more p4p recognition is because he beat much more popular fighters. Where as Marquez just fights the best. Lol... what made a fighter popular its because they are the best fighter.. casamayor, juan diaz and JMM are not popular because theyre just good fighters. casamayor and juan diaz are not even close to the level of dela hoya and hatton, try to look at their records so that youll stop comparing the best fighters from crap fighters..WTF

That is the truth, no one can dispute those facts. July 18th is the Battle for P4P Supremacy, Marquez #1, vs the previous #1. Let Pacquiao fight drained fighters or damaged goods, he can fool his Pactard fans, but not the real old-school Boxing fans. And I guess Floyd can fool his huggers, and not the real old school boxing fans....(days of Ali, Frazier, Norton, Foreman, Sugar, Hagler, Hearns, Duran, JCC, Sweatpea) when if someone called you out, you fought and didn't care about the money, only legacy.

Look at Marquez' last three fights compared to Pac's. Marquez Pac (many thought he beat him) Casamayor (never previously ko'd) Juan Diaz (never even dropped, much less ko'd) Pac David Daiz (trash) DLH (trash) Hatton (even more trash) The only reason pac gets more p4p recognition is because he beat much more popular fighters. Where as Marquez just fights the best.[/QUO Lol... what made a fighter popular its because they are the best fighter.. casamayor, juan diaz and JMM are not popular because theyre just good fighters. casamayor and juan diaz are not even close to the level of dela hoya and hatton, try to look at their records so that youll stop comparing the best fighters from crap fighters..WTF

And let me guess....if and when they fight for a third time, IF Pac KOs Marquez, heaven forbid another UD or SD ending, Marquez will be either 1) Over the hill (been in too many wars) or 2) Shot (been in too many wars/ too old). I would love to see a third fight between the both of them, but I can already see the excuses...... Oh... David Diaz = Solid fighter with excellent chin, highly doubt Marquez could KO him, KD yes DLH - Highly doubt another fighter could've made DLH quit on the stool Hatton - So the 140lb king for the past 4+ yrs, limited as he was, is all of a sudden trash? Don't think so. JMM on his best day couldn't do to the above 3 fighters what Pac did to them. And no...I'm not a Pachugger, just a boxing realist. :yo: David Diaz was ducked by Juan Diaz for a lightweight unification bout. Opting for an optional title defense against Nate Campbell instead. Hatton to this day would still be heavily favored to beat any other current 140lb title holder not named Pacquaio. Some trash.

And let me guess....if and when they fight for a third time, IF Pac KOs Marquez, heaven forbid another UD or SD ending, Marquez will be either 1) Over the hill (been in too many wars) or 2) Shot (been in too many wars/ too old). I would love to see a third fight between the both of them, but I can already see the excuses...... Oh... David Diaz = Solid fighter with excellent chin, highly doubt Marquez could KO him, KD yes DLH - Highly doubt another fighter could've made DLH quit on the stool Hatton - So the 140lb king for the past 4+ yrs, limited as he was, is all of a sudden trash? Don't think so. JMM on his best day couldn't do to the above 3 fighters what Pac did to them. And no...I'm not a Pachugger, just a boxing realist. :yo: Truth right there.... Pac > JMM.... JMM is the man though..... Nothing wrong with being #2

Look at Marquez' last three fights compared to Pac's. Marquez Pac (many thought he beat him) Casamayor (never previously ko'd) Juan Diaz (never even dropped, much less ko'd) Pac David Daiz (trash) DLH (trash) Hatton (even more trash) The only reason pac gets more p4p recognition is because he beat much more popular fighters. Where as Marquez just fights the best. And let me guess....if and when they fight for a third time, IF Pac KOs Marquez, heaven forbid another UD or SD ending, Marquez will be either 1) Over the hill (been in too many wars) or 2) Shot (been in too many wars/ too old). I would love to see a third fight between the both of them, but I can already see the excuses...... Oh... David Diaz = Solid fighter with excellent chin, highly doubt Marquez could KO him, KD yes DLH - Highly doubt another fighter could've made DLH quit on the stool Hatton - So the 140lb king for the past 4+ yrs, limited as he was, is all of a sudden trash? Don't think so. JMM on his best day couldn't do to the above 3 fighters what Pac did to them. And no...I'm not a Pachugger, just a boxing realist. :yo:

Ok.. Let's do it like this.. Let's say Pac lost to JMM in their 2nd fight. Marquez moves up in weight and fights David Diaz, which makes him P4P #1. Then he KO'd Diaz in 9 rounds then fought de La hoya, and oscar quit after 8 rounds, then he fought hatton, KO'd him in less than 2 rounds. Pacquiao lost to Marquez in their second fight whcih means he fought Casamayor and Juan Diaz, and KO'D them in a very embarrassing way... Pac's resume is better than JMM?

Pac gotta lose for JMM to take his spot. I really wished Mr boat buyer woulda just went after the top WW's so we coulda got Pac-JMM 3.

Look at Marquez' last three fights compared to Pac's. Marquez Pac (many thought he beat him) Casamayor (never previously ko'd) Juan Diaz (never even dropped, much less ko'd) Pac David Daiz (trash) DLH (trash) Hatton (even more trash) The only reason pac gets more p4p recognition is because he beat much more popular fighters. Where as Marquez just fights the best. Of course but all these dumb fans think popularity means more then talent

Look at Marquez' last three fights compared to Pac's. Marquez Pac (many thought he beat him) Casamayor (never previously ko'd) Juan Diaz (never even dropped, much less ko'd) Pac David Daiz (trash) DLH (trash) Hatton (even more trash) The only reason pac gets more p4p recognition is because he beat much more popular fighters. Where as Marquez just fights the best. Pacquiao....Could have gone either way but Manny ended up winning Casamayor....washed up overrated fighter imo Juan Baby fat Diaz....has like no punching power and is open for counters and had just lost to Nate not to long ago.

paqcuiao didnt jump up 2 weight divisions for that one. Oops. Excuse the typo. Meant to say After jumping 2 weight divisions after losing his title.

paqcuiao didnt jump up 2 weight divisions for that one. Your right. Pac had 6 fights at 122 before facing Ledwaba.

Lehlonolo Ledwaba =took fight on 2 weeks notice while jumping up 2 weight divisions and beat the crap out of then IBF superbantamweight champ. paqcuiao didnt jump up 2 weight divisions for that one.

This thread is a bunch of shit. The truth... The best fights on Marquez's resume is a draw and a LOSS to Pacquaio. Marquez is on the P4P list because of a LOSS to Pacquio. without it, he wouldnt be on anyones list, and probably wouldn't be signed up to be fighting floyd. You guys are complaining about beating washed up fighters but Barrera in his old age KD'd Marquez, and marquez couldnt return the favor. While Manny, not even reaching his prime yet, beat prime Barerra convincingly, no mas. Pacquaio's worst recent fight on his resume is a WIN against marquez. JMM fans see this as a moral victory I guess. Pacquaio doesnt need marquez to be the P4P #1, even without his win. Pacquaio is up here without a WIN on Marquez. JMM is down here with a LOSS to Manny. These days, even a close fight with Manny is a win in some arm chair ref's eyes. it's sad you fanboys think marquez should be #1 because of a loss and a draw to Manny.

I dont put too much emphasis on decisions from corrupt/stupid judges. They gave hatton the decision against collazo, but we know who won. They gave Valuev the decision against Holyfield, but we know who won. They shouldve given Marquez the decision against Pac in the second fight. no, it was a close fight that couldve gone either way but jmm cant keep his ass off the canvass. if there was a fight between them that should've been overturned it was the draw where the judge admitted his mistake. that's more clear as day than the 2nd one.

Look at Marquez' last three fights compared to Pac's. Marquez Pac (many thought he beat him) Casamayor (never previously ko'd) Juan Diaz (never even dropped, much less ko'd) Pac David Daiz (trash) DLH (trash) Hatton (even more trash) The only reason pac gets more p4p recognition is because he beat much more popular fighters. Where as Marquez just fights the best. How bout before that??? Marquez's signature wins "allegedly" shot Marco Antonio Barrera= many thought Marco beat him oldass Manuel Medina Terdsak Jandaeng. Pacquiao's signature wins Marco Antonio Barrera = In his prime and the middle of the most prolific winstreak of his career Erik Morales = Never previously Ko'd Lehlonolo Ledwaba =took fight on 2 weeks notice while jumping up 2 weight divisions and beat the crap out of then IBF superbantamweight champ.

Uhh wait. Who lost to who again? Pacquiao? Or was it Marquez? :dunno: I dont put too much emphasis on decisions from corrupt/stupid judges. They gave hatton the decision against collazo, but we know who won. They gave Valuev the decision against Holyfield, but we know who won. They shouldve given Marquez the decision against Pac in the second fight.

I wouldn't call it trying too hard. They are just facts after all. Shot Casamayor>>>>> Prime David Diaz, Hatton Prime Juan Diaz>>>> Shot, weight-drained De La Hoya Perfectly put