Why Does JMM Get Hit Clean So Much?

He is an offesive minded boxer. He has a lot of technical skill and is quite versitile, but he is not a defensive wizard. He is not affraid to take a a shot to dish out a couple of his own, but he is usually the one getting the better of the exchages. Also as the fight goes on he tend to make adjustments that allow him to take less punishment and dish out even more. He has some subtle defense that allows him to take less punishment then he gives out though. Agreed 100% nothing else to add really.

You name a prime black fighter in the lightweight division? JMM and Manny cant fight them because there are none at that division. Its not their fault. As for Paul Williams and Chad Dawson, those guys havent been around long enough and we all know Glen Johnson beat Chad Dawson. Paul Williams is a great fighter and his time will come.

cuz he's become more aggressive now, willing to get hit in order to land his sharp counters... compared to his old laid back, passive style of yesteryears

He is an offesive minded boxer. He has a lot of technical skill and is quite versitile, but he is not a defensive wizard. He is not affraid to take a a shot to dish out a couple of his own, but he is usually the one getting the better of the exchages. Also as the fight goes on he tend to make adjustments that allow him to take less punishment and dish out even more. He has some subtle defense that allows him to take less punishment then he gives out though.

its bcoz marquez fights toe to toe. hes not very defensive like floyd. they have different styles.

He got a good chin so he ain't afraid to use it.

That's what's involved in being an offensive fighter. In order to open up on an opponent, you yourself have to show openings.

Oh no he didn't... :crying:He pulled the race card:crying: It's his crutch. It's like lookin' at some poor slob in a wheelchair...pity him and thank God it's not you...

because he is a tru prize fighter....he'd rather hit than not get hit if it must come to that.......

to bring exciting fights to us, the fans. defensive fighters are boring. we want to see punches being landed...not "OHHH SHITT DID YOU ALL SEE HOW THAT PUNCH LANDED PURE AIR!!! FIGHT OF THE YEAR!"

This is my 1 problem with him. Im a huge JMM fan. I remember when MAB & EM were in there prime and killing everyone, I always felt that JMM was the best of the 3. He was just a brilliant techniqal fighter. Then the fight came with Pac. Keep in mind that I was a big Pac fan at the time also. Everyone came away sweating both guys after that fight but I came away dissapointed in both guys. Pac blew a 4pt first round lead while throwing basicaly one punch the whole fight while JMM is supposed to be this brilliant technician but got hit with the same punch over & over again the whole fight. Now obviously both guys have improved alot since then but nearly every single JMM fight I watch is the same. He still takes a ton of clean shots in every fight and I just dont get it. There are alot of guys who take a ton of clean shots but I dont care because I dont consider then to be the brilliant technique guys like JMM. I see all the other pure boxers and they dont take those same clean shots, espicaly the elite guys. Now I use to cut JMM a break because some of those fights were against Southpaws which can always catch you but he was even getting hit clean by average Southpaws. Then I also cut him a break because he a counter puncher but he still is pretty aggressive but still. He's fighting righties like Diaz, an older MAB, and he's still taking too many shots if you ask me. Even in the 2nd Pac fight. I look at a guy like Floyd and in his prime, I cant see a right handed fighter hitting him with hardly a single clean punch. Even if he fought the WW's right now, I dont think none of them would hit him clean. Thats not to say they cant win by just overpowering him and lighting up his arms, shoulders, and gloves but I cant see him taking the shots JMM takes. I just dont think JMM should be taking those kind of shots for the kind of fighter he is. Its like on one hand he's the best techniqal figher in the game and on the other hand he's the worst defensive guy in the game and those 2 things dont usually go together. If you have great techniqe then you usually have good D and he's also considered to be one of the smartest guys out there. How does he get hit clean so much, he gets staggered, and he's busted up in nearly every fight. Even against average guys he gets swolle up It is the way he tries to counter punch. Marquez tries to stay in position to counter punch alot of the time. Unlike Morales and Barrera who try to go Block>Block>Block>counter Marquez tries to go: Slip>Counter When you go Slip>Counter you end up being able to counter more effectively than by going Block>Block>Block>Counter. This is because when Marquez slips a shot, if you watch his fights frame by frame you'll see that one hand is smothering one of his opponents shots (normally not noticed), while the other is in the perfect position to hit his opponent clean. You will also end up flustering your opponents by going Slip>Counter and you'll probably confuse them and make them tentative. The disadvantage is that a miscalculation will let make you get hit in the face.

he's overrated like pac is overrated.. you have guys like paul williams and chad dawson shut out of the p4p rankings because they are black while guys like marquez and pac are praised for gettng beat up in every fight. if marquez ever decides to fight a prime black fighter you will see he is no match for them. same goes for pac. they run from the best black fighters and will only fight themselves Oh no he didn't... :crying:He pulled the race card:crying:

he's overrated like pac is overrated.. you have guys like paul williams and chad dawson shut out of the p4p rankings because they are black while guys like marquez and pac are praised for gettng beat up in every fight. if marquez ever decides to fight a prime black fighter you will see he is no match for them. same goes for pac. they run from the best black fighters and will only fight themselves It's the Brown and Yellow mans fault.

Great, look who is back, shittiest p4p poster of 2008 and runner up for 2009.

warrior equals idiot but this is sports.. (gladiators) and they are entertainers(jesters)

He's older now, so he gets hit more than usual, but like mrpain said he made adjustments and didn't get hit as much towards the end. Diaz was landing that jab and left hook quite a bit, but in the end it wasn't enough to overcome the sharp shooting and combination punching that Marquez brings.

And the inevitable race wars begin. What a surprise.

Because he can!! It's a net loss for his opponent. Hell, he's not even himself til' he gets hurt 1 time...

he's overrated like pac is overrated.. you have guys like paul williams and chad dawson shut out of the p4p rankings because they are black while guys like marquez and pac are praised for gettng beat up in every fight. if marquez ever decides to fight a prime black fighter you will see he is no match for them. same goes for pac. they run from the best black fighters and will only fight themselves :lol1: boo hoo! it's because I'm black!! boo hoo!! :bottle: :bottle: :bottle: Chad Dawson and Paul Williams are in no way better then Marquez. They haven't done ANYTHING to deserve being called the best.

because he's a warrior that will sit there and trade punches, he aint lance armstrong