well... now who wins ABRAHAM -vs- PAVLIK ??

Same as before B-Hop took Pavlik to school. Pavlik by hard fought UD. It's one of THE fights I want to see in 09.

there was no option for "non contest"..i'm sure Abraham's camp would have the following clause in the contract: if at any time during the bout, Abraham starts to feel cold, he has the right to pull out of the remainder of the fight and claim a "cold". If this was to occur, the match would be deemed a no contest. that was lame... I cant believe anyone in their right mind would actually believe for a second that Abraham may have ducked old man Raul Marquez of all people :/ here is a man that left his country for the first time to come fight MIRANDA in his backyard... and now to say he may be ducking a former champ from the ice age in Germany, thats just insane.

Pavlik by decision. AA can win it, but I'd still favor Kelly despite the Hopkins beatdown.

Unlike in the Hopkins bout Pavlik has the big fight experience. AA's resume is packed full of tomato cans. I'm not saying AA can't win, but he's never been put under the kind of pressure that Hopkins and Taylor exert. That said, after been completely obliterated by Hopkins, Pavlik's going to need time to get his head together. Rushing back to take on a damaging heavy hitter like Abraham wouldn't be far off suicidal. His team need to find another Lockett.

back to 160 where the two champs hopefully unify the middleweight titles next year... :boxing: sadly Pavlik lost his BIG 0 which takes quite a bit out of this much anitcipated matchup... will he still give King Arthur a real tough fight or was he somewhat EXECUTED both mentally and phisically. I appreciate that Vanesboxing is a big fan of Abraham but.. Similarities between B-Hop and Abraham are non existent. Pavlik> Abraham.

Pavlik by decision. If Abraham wins, the Hopkins win means little. I wouldn't say that although I suppose how Pavlik's career pans out now will effect how good of a win this was for B-Hop.

there was no option for "non contest"..i'm sure Abraham's camp would have the following clause in the contract: if at any time during the bout, Abraham starts to feel cold, he has the right to pull out of the remainder of the fight and claim a "cold". If this was to occur, the match would be deemed a no contest. :haha::boxing:

Pavlik by semi-wide UD or a late stoppage due to accumulation. AA is no BHop.

8 People voted for Pavlik to KO Abraham? aint happening 20 People now makes me wonder does anyone actually know who Arthur is? :lol1: lOLZ dat bum aint been on HBo so he mut be shid loz lamo pwn

And once more for you baby, I dont think Abraham can beat the hell out of Jermain Taylor.

easily??? get your shit together man... there is no way in hell pavlik KOs abraham... if anything maybe a close decision.. but not even that... if Pavlik shows up anything close to how he came in for Hopkins.. Arthur will have him carried out on a stretcher. there is no need for anyone to hype Abraham up... He is a true champ and his nasty KOs do that for him already. Hahahahaha, let see and gauge them by means of Edison Miranda. Palvik Beats edison Miranda and get KOed in one fight. Abraham beats Edison Miranda in two fights then, who do you think is more superior fighter, the one who pit in two outingsor the one who wins in a one sided fight. think twice

there was no option for "non contest"..i'm sure Abraham's camp would have the following clause in the contract: if at any time during the bout, Abraham starts to feel cold, he has the right to pull out of the remainder of the fight and claim a "cold". If this was to occur, the match would be deemed a no contest.

AA by ko pavlik wouldn't be able to take the massive hits by the king

its a real pick'em fight they both have there attributes kelly's workrate and accumulative punching and abraham's boxing and short bursts of activity with heavy shots. i still believe pavlik is the #1 mw in the world right now he has a better resume and more proven then AA imo. i would maybe pick a winner after pavlik defends against rubio and i want to see what his mental state is like. aa biggest flaw imo and why i cannot outright say he has the better advantage is he is not busy enough and he hasn't fought anyone as good as pavlik. if i would have to pick who i want to win pavlik 100%, he's a more entertaining boxer to watch.

back to 160 where the two champs hopefully unify the middleweight titles next year... :boxing: sadly Pavlik lost his BIG 0 which takes quite a bit out of this much anitcipated matchup... will he still give King Arthur a real tough fight or was he somewhat EXECUTED both mentally and phisically. Pavlik by KO, his loss to Hopkins hasnt diminished him @ MW in my eyes.

King Arthur will look like more like Peasant Arthur when Kelly's through with him. only peasant now is Pavlik... his team needs to pick up the shattered pieces and put him back together before they put him in the ring against a KO monster in TOP form.

If Pavliks chin was so bad, during this schooling shouldnt a lightheavyweight champ, knock him out or at least knock him down?

no way pav can ko him ..even thow i think he has more power ..abrahams chin is ridiculous!

still gotta go with pavlik. i think he learned alot from this fight and we'll never seem him fight like that again. he was horrible, not himself. i think he'll come back even stronger.

Pavlik by decision. If Abraham wins, the Hopkins win means little.