But at this stage i dont think a change of trainer is worth it,..
Few years back yes but now there aint no point...
He isnt awful i mean he was telling shane the right things to do
It was just shane was loading up thinking he could blast ricardo out of there
Yes, it would be all but pointless to change anything now. I think it showed up in the first fight against Forrest. He just didn't seem to know what to do when Mosley was running up against adversity. It happened every time he was losing a fight, his dad just had no idea what to say or do and ended up making no contribution worth anything.
Yeah, I noticed that too, Mosley's father wouldn't know what to say every time Mosley looked discouraged in the corner, he doesn't know how to tell Mosley to do different things, he pretty much says the same things over and over.
He seemed to do well with John David Jackson, not sure how big a difference it would make now though.
Yes, it would be all but pointless to change anything now. I think it showed up in the first fight against Forrest. He just didn't seem to know what to do when Mosley was running up against adversity. It happened every time he was losing a fight, his dad just had no idea what to say or do and ended up making no contribution worth anything.
without the knockdowns/knock out (if the round would have just ended) my final scorecard would have been mosley winning by the margin of ONE round.
in essence without the knockdowns it would have been 115-113 for mosley.
i had mayorga winning the last round (by the way) at the time of the stoppage. i expected it to be a split decision half way through the 12th...and if mayorga had reached the final bell it would have been.
i give props to mayorga...i didnt think he'd last (competitively at least) for more than 4 rounds...he gave mosley a run for his money and mosley finished off the fight beautifully.
a good fight.
Whoops. I voted including the twelfth. Going into the 12th I had Mosley up by one or two points, I can't remember which.
Either way, it was an interesting fight and a great ending. Haven't seen an ending like that in a live fight for a while. I still think Mosley needs to give it up on that win though as he wouldn't beat many, if any, top tier fighter with that performance.
I wonder if he got a bit disheartened after the sixth thinking he couldn't hurt Mayorga ... :thinking: After that huge sixth round I thought he would come out blasting in the seventh going for a KO. He may have thought that he wasn't hurting Mayorga when, in fact, he was because it was after that round he went to shite again for a few rounds.
Does anyone else think he should have dropped his father as a trainer a long time ago?
He seemed to do well with John David Jackson, not sure how big a difference it would make now though.
Whoops. I voted including the twelfth. Going into the 12th I had Mosley up by one or two points, I can't remember which.
Either way, it was an interesting fight and a great ending. Haven't seen an ending like that in a live fight for a while. I still think Mosley needs to give it up on that win though as he wouldn't beat many, if any, top tier fighter with that performance.
I wonder if he got a bit disheartened after the sixth thinking he couldn't hurt Mayorga ... :thinking: After that huge sixth round I thought he would come out blasting in the seventh going for a KO. He may have thought that he wasn't hurting Mayorga when, in fact, he was because it was after that round he went to shite again for a few rounds.
Does anyone else think he should have dropped his father as a trainer a long time ago?
The jab statistic would only have been a factor is the jab meant anything in a fight like that. Neither guy employed a jab worth shit. I had Mayorga well ahead.
8 of the rounds were fairly clear. 1-3 to Mayorga, 4-6 Mosley, and 12 to Mosley (even before the KD). Either 8 or 9 was also clearly Mayorga, even the HBO team gave it to him. The rest were a complete mess, I tended to find myself favoring Mayorga in many of them because Mosley was doing literally nothing.
I thought Mayorga clearly won rounds 1-3 and 8
Shane clearly won rounds 4-6 and 11.
Rounds 7, 9 and 10 were close but I think Shane did a bit better.
IMO, Shane was ahead by 7-4 or 6-5.
Plenty of people had Mayorga up, so it is what it is. Many ringside boxing writers and SKY Sports had him up. It was close but Mayorga was ahead. Mayorga won rounds 1-3. Mosley took 4-7. Mayorga won rounds 8-10. Round 11 was even. Mosley didnt do much and was doing nothing more than being defensive. The rounds he actully threw and landed he won. Mosley also lead with his head and hit Mayorga on the hip many times. Peope have a mental block when it comes to Mayorga, yes it was a messy fight. But sombody had to win those rounds and Mayorga did by being the more active fighter.
There seems to be a lot of very different scorecards for this fight. How did you have it going into the final round? Poll to follow.
I though Mayorga was up but it was a messy fight and a bad stream so it could've gone either way.
Wow Mayorga actually outlanded him in 1 whopping round. 4 to 3.
I know CompuBox misses punches but it wasn't exactly like there were a lot of jabs or inside fighting in this one.
Double the punches landed and triple the connect rate.
Mayorga landed two punches in round 4. Two punches.
He was throwing a lot but it just wasn't effective enough for me to give him some rounds that others gave to him.
Mosley was landing his right at will but he also gave away some rounds later by not throwing anything.
I think Mayorga's clinching and mauling tactics were effective, he was using his 10 lb weight advantage very well, but his punching was not. Mosley was tired but he was able to pull it off.
Yeah I don't score missed punches when he's getting tagged flush.
The punchstats are an illustration of how Mosley dictated the real pace of the fight........wearing Mayorga down who wasn't on his level.
Did you score it, if so what did you have it going into the last round?
I will rewatch it when i get chance.