If he knocks out Hopkins than we have something to talk about
Thats probly not happening. UD not good enough to sandwich Pavlik somewhere between Pac and Calzaghe??
his #1 status is not a clear and definate as Floyd. But his popularity put him there. I personally think Marquez beat him landed more punches, harder shots, outboxed and countered him well.
JMM is going nowhere he lost to Pacman, no excuses and the list would remain the same.
I was thinking along the lines of Pavlik getting moved up if they both lost since he is also undefeated and Calzaghe avoided him like Brittish folk avoid the dentist
If Oscar KO pacman and Calzaghe beats RJJ convincingly he will become P4P Best
What if they both lose?? Then what?? Marquez gets #1?? The system sucks!!!
What does me bein in a fight have anything to do with this?..Lol..
but anyway..Pacquio has alot to win but alot to lose..his physical health is at stake here..he knows this..and he took the fight..
IMO his P4P status is also at stake...P4P is blind to weight and based off of self-ability regardless of size..PAC accepts a fight with DLH he puts his health and P4P status at risk..but walks at $10 mil+ richer...
He obviously sees it worth it...
And I'm sure Marquez is still willing to step in the ring with Pacquiao..at 135 of course..
And Cotto didn't go up in weight to fight Margarito..lol
Of course P4P status is at stake. But even if he loses why would Calzaghe or Marquez the #2 and 3 get moved up 4 beating old and faded jones or Casamayor in their own weight. It just doesnt make sense
Your opinion is wrong then; was Sam Langford a lesser fighter for losing to Jack Johnson? P4P isn't a belt you would lose based on any loss at all. Conditions matter; why would Calzaghe beating Roy vault him past Manny if Manny lost to Oscar considering all variables. That's dumb.
You can't expect boxers to beat opponents who are 25lbs heavier. The only reason to downgrade a fighters P4P status is if he loses a fight that he has a good chance to win or looks bad in one they should dominate. You can't blame Pac if he loses to Oscar, its a huge task. If he wins he should get a ton of credit for exactly the same reason.
It should only be fair..
If PAC wins he'll P4P be praised as a lil God for whoopin someone twice his size..
but if he loses it "shouldn't affect" his P4P status?...
That's the risk he's willing to take hence the rejection of the 70-30 even tho that still would make the biggest Payday of his career..
Have you ever been in a fight?? Theres plenty of reasons not to pick a fight with someone twice your size. But if the dude twice your size takes the fight to you and beats your ass will anyone be surprised??
But if you at least held your own would anyone else even close to that guy's size gonna wanna fight you ever again??
Same thing here. For Pac to even just hold his own is alot harder than beating a more elite fighter thats smaller than him So give him a break. Noone's giving Cotto shit 4 coming up in weight and losing
I am torn on this issue. On one side Pac took this fight so he must accept the consequences that come with it, whether it be p4p status or whatever.
On the other hand I don't really think that the fight should impact on how he is viewed on a p4p basis as he is going up against a guy who is significantly bigger than him.
I think we will need to wait to see the fight and consider its outcome in the relevant context to determine where he stands p4p after the fight.
No and why should it? P4P means if all were the same size. These two are vastly different in size
Is that what it means?
I beg to differ. It doesn't mean anything at all.